The Jamarra Thread

[Doggy]

You could probably remove he I think part

Why? Everyone is guessing.

Noone actually knows.

 

[lachy]

Why? Everyone is guessing.

Noone actually knows.

There has not been 1 iota of evidence that he will play this year. If you chose to believe it is possible, fine, but it is way past the optimistic view now

 

[Doggy]

We're in round 6

 

[lachy]

We're in round 6

Round 6 and is still not in full training.

He will need a 6 to 8 week pre season to even be considered that has not yet started and was supposed to be playing VFL by now

 

[my plums]

This whole thing makes me really sad

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

If you asked me which two players on our list would definitely not get away with the same thing those are definitely the two I would have thought of first.

Poor things Seem like really good clubmen.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Unfortunately, this is the second weekly soapie saga in our household. My wife watches home and away and I follow the Jamarra saga not sure which one is more believable.

Need Alf Stewart to step in and set him straight.

 

[RWnBluey]

Need Alf Stewart to step in and set him straight.

Jamarra ‘Sancho’ Ugle-Hagan

 

[ossie_21]

A week or 2 ago it looked like things would have been ramping up, now it’s gone backwards closer to 0 again.

My last post in this thread now.

What a waste of talent and what a waste of draft/potential trade capital we had to give up to match the bid. They may have been from mid-2nd rounders on, but you can still find gems to develop and at least hopefully role players. All of that for what will turn out to be next to nothing, 1 late first rounder at best we will be rinsed for.

Absolute shit show.

 

[FoochPackage]

Internally we've accepted he wont feature this year. It's a shame that it's come to this, but it's beyond the clubs control now.

 

[cleveland]

Tried to warn you guys

 

[Bulldogs85]

I have accepted a long time ago that we may not see JUH in bulldogs jumper again.

 

[Golden_6]

What’s our actual level of recourse here?

What if he decides to just do the same thing on an ongoing basis and 12 months later we’re in the same predicament?

This could be a scenario where he’s just not interested in training or playing and is now just doing the absolute bare minimum so the healthy funds keep appearing in his bank account.

 

[RWnBluey]

I have accepted a long time ago that we may not see JUH in bulldogs jumper again.

The longer it drags out my sentiment on this has changed from hopefully not to hopefully.

 

[bulldogs201616]

If Jamarra thinks he can act unprofessional to get out of his contract his dreaming. Unless we get a first round pick then keep him

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

If Jamarra thinks he can act unprofessional to get out of his contract his dreaming. Unless we get a first round pick then keep him

I doubt he wants out of his contract. He’s not gonna give up 800k a year.

 

[oldfaithfuldog]

Tried to warn you guys

And you were spot on mate. No one wanted to believe it, me included, but you were right.

 

[lachy]

Most contracts have a base component and then add ons for games played. Is his base contract $800,000

 

[Golden_6]

Most contracts have a base component and then add ons for games played. Is his base contract $800,000

Match payments are only about $5k a game I believe so only a tiny fraction of the base.

 

[bresker]

Players hiding behind the mental health card has been happening for years. They do it because they know it’s a haven where the media won’t dare to go and nobody will ever call them out for it.
All it serves to do is trivialise a very real and very debilitating health condition. For mine the people (along with their management) who exploit a system that is designed to protect the vulnerable in order to avoid scrutiny are lower than shark shit.

I see this phrase 'mental health card ' get bandied about on bigfooty. I presume it means that you assume players are using drink or drugs to get wasted & miss training , then claiming it's actually a mental health problem?

Where's the evidence that this has occurred?
Has any player come out and said their mental health is suffering? Has Jamarra?
Given that suicide is one of the leading causes of death for young men in Australia , are these comments helpful ? (An even higher rate for young indigenous men. Of course)
Is it possible to go out and party and enjoy yourself in public , but still have poor mental health ?
What does 'exploiting the system' mean? What is Jamarra gaining from this?
How do you know what his state of mind is? Psychiatry is still an inexact science that almost totally relies on evidence provided by the patient, unless they are psychotic.

Clubs have barrages of doctors, psychologists . They doubtless have access to top psychiatrists. It's not as if Bev has a quick look at Jamarra's insta and diagnoses the 'mental health.'

I suffer from severe bi polar. I've been hospitalised a few times on the psych ward and survived a suicide attempt. If someone says they have a mental health problem, you listen . Too many people, especially men,put on a brave face and told no-one before they ended their lives .

(Turns out I was in a pretty manic state when I ran for the Bullfogs board a few years ago, but I have no regrets)

 

[Bald]

And you were spot on mate. No one wanted to believe it, me included, but you were right.

How can anyone be right about something that hasn't happened yet?

 

[House_of_Dahl]

How can anyone be right about something that hasn't happened yet?

Cleveland has been saying things with Marra were more serious for a loooong time. Lots of posters ridiculed it, but he was right.

 

[Jon#]

Saw Juh and his time off being questioned on 7 news a few minutes ago. Footage of him on social media acting like a 12 yr old and them saying "its becoming an embarrassment for the Bulldogs with his social media and the things he's giving likes to."
Sheesh, is that the crap he lives for now? Being a clown and embarrassment for the club. He needs to be cut loose.

 

[Northernsoul74]

I doubt he wants out of his contract. He’s not gonna give up 800k a year.

I think sacking him might be the only wake up call left for him.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Can any other club that takes a chance on him be sure that he’ll suddenly knuckle down and become a star again?

I’ve got a feeling Tasmania might be the answer.