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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order
 

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Early days but Goad and Green for pick 16/20 haven’t been very impressive in the seconds I’d hazard a guess clubs would be very reluctant to select rucks high up in coming years plus Barnett for early rucks have barely fired a shot
 
He was very impressive this morning, he just works so hard.

29 disposals ( 15 kicks, 14 hand passes ), 3 marks, 5 tackles, 7 inside 50's , 1 goal.

  • His second and third efforts are really good.
  • Has elite vision and decision making.
  • Elite footskills either side of his body.
  • By God he knows how to find his own footy.
  • Tremendous player for linking up play with his run and carry, which also brings others of his team mates into the game.

I love all these attributes that he possesses, however the additional one that I think he is exceptional at, is his knowing where to go to on the ground, to get to his next play evolvement.
This is a result of running patterns, a decent tanks, footy smarts and being able to read the play so very well.

Is he going to be the most skillfull mid available maybe !?! , maybe not, however is he going to be the highest footy IQ mid and most effective mid - probably yes.

His link up playing style, would complement our current young developing mids very nicely :

H Reid
Gross
Hall
Hewett
Grego
Long
Hutchinson
Without intentionally causing trouble, he sounds a lot like Murphy Reid, who I was big on last year.

As aa player comparison/style, would you say it's fair?
 
Ok, let me make this clear so we can wrap this up

  • I don't think wingman is an immediate or pressing need for us, and under no circumstances should we spend a top 2 pick on a wingman. Before you mention Gaff, 2010 was 15 years ago and that type of player would not be a top 5 prospect in 2025.
  • Our midfield is and remains our most pressing need. We have been trounced in the midfield in all of our games, including by Essendon despite them not being a very good team and missing Caldwell we were -15 in clearances and got destroyed at centre bounce.
  • It's far too early to be making any statements about Gross, Hall, Grego Hutchinson. They might not make it as long term footballers, let alone form an elite midfield. Hell, even Hewett has one half of good midfield under his belt.
  • We aren't trading Archer or Jobe. We'll be building around them, and Williams to an extent as well.

The draft assignment is the same as it has been for the last 3-4 years. Mids,mids, mids. And you can add KPD to that list as well.
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Without intentionally causing trouble, he sounds a lot like Murphy Reid, who I was big on last year.

As aa player comparison/style, would you say it's fair?
Not a bad comparison at all with the skill and deft touch M.Reid is a more natural forward I’d say Freddy is slightly quicker and a touch more agile and genuinely dual sided wouldn’t be much in it
 
Without intentionally causing trouble, he sounds a lot like Murphy Reid, who I was big on last year.

As aa player comparison/style, would you say it's fair?
Personally I’d say no.

This could put a few off him and it’s not what I’m trying to do but he reminds me a little of Cerra as a draftee. Good kick, good footy iq, can play inside but probably his best work is on the outside. Probably lacks a yard of pace that a Wardlaw or Dacios have.
 
Our FS/NGAs the next couple years are mostly HF/HB/ outside types aren’t they? 2x Banfield, Braun, walley Caton Williams mcglade and kenh? Evans could end up an inside mid.

I’m hoping Bo Allan ends up a Fyfe type inside beast to complement hewett, gross and Reid.

we really need balanced mids and a KPD with our top picks this year… Fred and Cody early days seem safe options.
 
Without intentionally causing trouble, he sounds a lot like Murphy Reid, who I was big on last year.

As aa player comparison/style, would you say it's fair?

Some similarities to M Reid however Freddy isn't shy of physicality and is more a burrowing into the contest type, M Reid more sits off the pack and is an excellent first hand off player.

I have been trying to think of a better 'plays like " for a while.
I think a playing style like ( now before I get hammered for these two PLAYS LIKE not saying will be as good as , OK )

Has some Zac Bailey and Steele Sidebottom traits to his game.

He does have exquisite foot skills and uses either foot as and when is needed.
Cant think of a more accurate dual sided player since Leon Cameron....and most on this site wont have been old enough to remember his exploits.
 
I have a different take on Oscar, I think he was purely given a week rest at home to make sure this shamozzle and PR regarding his contract is forgotten considering the Footy media landscape does move on quickly, and there will be other stories to have the public lose their shit over. It will be basically a month since he played in front of a home crowd at Optus.

He will be feeling pressure. Archer and J. Williams' form starts to put his spot at risk. This is only an issue for this season though. Oscar needs to play well for six months, he and the club will see what offers come through. Band 1 is critical (Pick 1 and 2).

Next season between Archer, JWilliams and Shahan, the boys play it out and we will see who will take the opportunity to call it theirs. JWilliams might be depth, Archer might move down back, and I won't know anything about Shahan until Game 1. The only thing that remains fact is Waterman is number 1 at FF.

I will say, I would love Pick 1 and 2 to be exclusively on midfielders, there are too many questions marks there. Hewett needs to stay fit and assuming Harley stays, two from 2025 draft class be it: Sharp, Greeves, Freddy, Duursma, Onley and Lindsay potentially gives us 2, 3, 4 - Elite A graders. Including a supporting cast of Hutchinson, Gross, Bo Allan, Evans, Dewar and Walley it does start to take shape.


Then I would go into the MSD with Pick 1 looking for the best KPD or Ruck (assuming the Ajung bloke??)
 
Then I would go into the MSD with Pick 1 looking for the best KPD or Ruck (assuming the Ajung bloke??)


I would hope that they are also scouring the land for an inside mid as well, as a ready made plug in contested mid would be an immediate help.

Oh and one other consideration ... can we please PLEASE, try and get a player who has good foot skills, I am so sick of seeing us pick players with less than average foot skills ...we have so many ball butchers on our list.
The former recruiting team under the Pie Man, placed middle distance running way before good foot skills .... and we are paying for its cumulative affect right here and now.
 
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Some similarities to M Reid however Freddy isn't shy of physicality and is more a burrowing into the contest type, M Reid more sits off the pack and is an excellent first hand off player.

I have been trying to think of a better 'plays like " for a while.
I think a playing style like ( now before I get hammered for these two PLAYS LIKE not saying will be as good as , OK )

Has some Zac Bailey and Steele Sidebottom traits to his game.

He does have exquisite foot skills and uses either foot as and when is needed.
Cant think of a more accurate dual sided player since Leon Cameron....and most on this site wont have been old enough to remember his exploits.
He reminds me of Priddis
 
Shanahan back seems a no brainer. Great overhead, lacks the chutzpah to do more than that as a forward IMO.

Thanks for distracting the lynch mob with this post.

It was getting busy there for a moment.

Shanahan is a very good set shot on goal. Takes his marks at the highest point. See a bit of JK in the young bloke.
 
He reminds me of Priddis

He is a lot quicker than Priddis :snail: and Priddis kicking was bog average at best and was very one sided.

Freddy does have quick hands as did Priddis, I will pay you that.
 
He is a lot quicker than Priddis :snail: and Priddis kicking was bog average at best and was very one sided.

Freddy does have quick hands as did Priddis, I will pay you that.
I just watched Fred’s and Toby Whans highlights and Toby Whan Kenobi has a much nicer kicking action.

Not taking anything away from Fred he can definitely find the ball and great on both sides but his kicks tend to hang in the air a little longer.. at least from the video I watched
 

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My only holdout for Fred is can he accumate by getting first hands on the ball himself.

I saw him against men and when he was in CBA and struggled to get the ball. The concerning thing is that could come down to speed or inability to read cba which is more alarming.

However, he has a spot for us as a worst case hbf since he is elite kick. And we do need an elite kicking hbf.

Fred needs to show alot more to match Murphy Reid under 18 showing. That shows you depth of last year

What is disappointing if I had to cherry pick is i wanted a zach merret/mckercher mold but fred is to slow to be that. Touch more speed and I would have said hes golden
 
Far out team, back off Obeanie1. Sure the JW trade was absolute anoos but we all know he does his best work when at least 5 clubs are involved in mega trades.

JW for Cameron simply didn't involve enough clubs for him to really start cooking

Dont recall proposing a trade.

Just pointing out Collingwoods interest in JW and our interest in DC. Our glut of tall forwarss and a weak ineffectual ruck division that could lose us players or discourage players coming to us.

The bigger picture.

Can see good reasons for both options.

But carry on.
 
Some similarities to M Reid however Freddy isn't shy of physicality and is more a burrowing into the contest type, M Reid more sits off the pack and is an excellent first hand off player.

I have been trying to think of a better 'plays like " for a while.
I think a playing style like ( now before I get hammered for these two PLAYS LIKE not saying will be as good as , OK )

Has some Zac Bailey and Steele Sidebottom traits to his game.

He does have exquisite foot skills and uses either foot as and when is needed.
Cant think of a more accurate dual sided player since Leon Cameron....and most on this site wont have been old enough to remember his exploits.
I remember Cameron. Very impressive
 
Dont recall proposing a trade.

Just pointing out Collingwoods interest in JW and our interest in DC. Our glut of tall forwarss and a weak ineffectual ruck division that could lose us players or discourage players coming to us.

The bigger picture.

Can see good reasons for both options.

But carry on.
This isn’t a pile on, where are you getting the Pies interest in Jack Williams mail from?
 
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