A vs B

[Lingsface]

Just thought I would start a thread for player A vs player B who is your favourite or who is the best?

Starting with the brothers
Zac Guthrie vs Cam Guthrie
Cam was the clear winner and a great player when we needed him a dual best and fairest winner and hard to pass, but his brother just has that extra athleticism and flexibility. I think I can finally say I will take Zac!

Tom Atkins

30

Tom Atkins

Age

30

Ht

180cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

4.3

5star

CL

1.3

3star

D

6.5

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.5

2star

M

0.8

1star

T

1.5

2star

CL

0.5

3star

D

11.6

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

1.2

4star

vs Max Rooke
Both such similar players, tough as nails the blokes you would take to war 1 and 2 in the draft. Rooke still has the edge but this year Atkins is closing in!

 

[cats_09]

Atkins

 

[Seeds]

Just thought I would start a thread for player A vs player B who is your favourite or who is the best?

Starting with the brothers
Zac Guthrie vs Cam Guthrie
Cam was the clear winner and a great player when we needed him a dual best and fairest winner and hard to pass, but his brother just has that extra athleticism and flexibility. I think I can finally say I will take Zac!

Tom Atkins vs Max Rooke
Both such similar players, tough as nails the blokes you would take to war 1 and 2 in the draft. Rooke still has the edge but this year Atkins is closing in!

Cam guthrie and max rooke.

Zac is getting good but peak cam is still better (more x factor). Zac could end up the better player though but not yet.

Rooke was more damaging. Hit blokes harder. Could run down players in open play (atkins does very little of this despite high tackle counts) and rooke in his later year could even compete in the air (was literally our centre half foward in our 2009 premiership win and one of our best players on ground). Injuries cut him short at his peak.

Suggestions for future comparisons:

Damien Bourke vs Darren flanagan (battle for best eighties injury prone ruck)
Paddy dangerfield vs joel selwood (battle for who was our second best mid in the past 50 years)
Ken hinkley vs mick mansfield (battle for the most laconic 90s geelong back flanker)
Paul lynch vs dan menzel (battle for best foward talent ruined by injury...its a tear jerker)
Tom stewart vs matthew scarlett vs corey enright (3 way death battle for geelongs best defender since Malarkey)
Spiro malakellis vs austin mccrabb (battle for well .... just cos who wouldnt want to see this battle?)
Leigh colbert vs gary ayres (battle for the most spectacular jump from a sinking ship)
Mark thompson vs malcolm blight (battle for geelongs best coach)
Malcolm blight vs john devine (battle for geelongs worst coach)
89 ablett vs 93 ablett (battle for greatest ever ablett)
Mark bairstow vs joel corey (battle for the best third best mid in a geelong team)
Neville bruns vs gryan miers (battle for best player round arm sniped by a hawk)
Geelong 1993 vs geelong 2008 (battle for greatest missed opportunity for a flag).

 

[Lingsface]

Cam guthrie and max rooke.

Zac is getting good but peak cam is still better (more x factor). Zac could end up the better player though but not yet.

Rooke was more damaging. Hit blokes harder. Could run down players in open play (atkins does very little of this despite high tackle counts) and rooke in his later year could even compete in the air (was literally our centre half foward in our 2009 premiership win and one of our best players on ground). Injuries cut him short at his peak.

Suggestions for future comparisons:

Damien Bourke vs Darren flanagan (battle for best eighties injury prone ruck)
Paddy dangerfield vs joel selwood (battle for who was our second best mid in the past 50 years)
Ken hinkley vs mick mansfield (battle for the most laconic 90s geelong back flanker)
Paul lynch vs dan menzel (battle for best foward talent ruined by injury...its a tear jerker)
Tom stewart vs matthew scarlett vs corey enright (3 way death battle for geelongs best defender since Malarkey)
Spiro malakellis vs austin mccrabb (battle for well .... just cos who wouldnt want to see this battle?)
Leigh colbert vs gary ayres (battle for the most spectacular jump from a sinking ship)
Mark thompson vs malcolm blight (battle for geelongs best coach)
Malcolm blight vs john devine (battle for geelongs worst coach)
89 ablett vs 93 ablett (battle for greatest ever ablett)
Mark bairstow vs joel corey (battle for the best third best mid in a geelong team)
Neville bruns vs gryan miers (battle for best player round arm sniped by a hawk)
Geelong 1993 vs geelong 2008 (battle for greatest missed opportunity for a flag).

These are great ideas, I'll tackle the Danger vs Selwood.
Selwood is 100 percent Geelong so for Geelong discussion no one is higher (not even Ablett) for what they did at and for the club. In terms of damaging amazing player though, Danger takes the cake, he can do things only he can and no one else. So in conclusion, I don't have an answer haha!

 

[Generalissimo]

I'd go with Selwood by a whisker. I reckon he was a better leader, but there's really not a lot in it.

Jeremy Cameron

5

Jeremy Cameron

Age

32

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

or Mark Blicavs

46

Mark Blicavs

Age

34

Ht

198cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.2

5star

MG

114.1

2star

D

11.1

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.9

3star

MG

114.1

2star

D

8.6

3star

K

2.0

1star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.6

4star

?

 

[Lingsface]

I'd go with Selwood by a whisker. I reckon he was a better leader, but there's really not a lot in it.

Jeremy Cameron or Mark Blicavs?

Cameron, he is specialllll!
Blitz is such an asset to a side but he can’t win a game on his own like Cameron.

 

[Lingsface]

James Kelly

James Kelly

Age

41

Ht

183cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.8

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

10.5

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

5.6

5star

MG

273.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

20.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

6.8

5star

vs Peter Riccardi

 

[standupand]

Zach over Cam (just). Both fantastic team players. I think Zach is slightly classier and can influence games at that individual level just that bit better than his brother.

Love Rooke. Love Atkins. Stop forcing me choose will you! Ok fine.. Rooke. Like a master to Tommy's apprentice. All Zen. A kind of perfect balance between the selflessly calm and the selflessly unhinged.

Danger over Joel. Wait.. .. ... ummm .... .. Ok I'm going to stick with that even though I can't quite figure out why. How about this: Joel sometimes gave away free kicks where I thought "gee that was needless"

Cameron or Blicavs? Are you kidding me? - Blicavs. Blicavs twice as good as most people ever notice. Cameron about 5/6 as good as what he'd like everyone to notice.

I'd take Kelly over Riccardi. Again close one. I think Kelly's leadership was underrated in that triple-premiership side. A bit of a practical-joker I think. But kept the group grounded and positive.

What about Mannagh v Podsiadly? (best "plucked from the vfl" type)

 

[Lingsface]

Zach over Cam (just). Both fantastic team players. I think Zach is slightly classier and can influence games at that individual level just that bit better than his brother.

Love Rooke. Love Atkins. Stop forcing me choose will you! Ok fine.. Rooke. Like a master to Tommy's apprentice. All Zen. A kind of perfect balance between the selflessly calm and the selflessly unhinged.

Danger over Joel. Wait.. .. ... ummm .... .. Ok I'm going to stick with that even though I can't quite figure out why. How about this: Joel sometimes gave away free kicks where I thought "gee that was needless"

Cameron or Blicavs? Are you kidding me? - Blicavs. Blicavs twice as good as most people ever notice. Cameron about 5/6 as good as what he'd like everyone to notice.

I'd take Kelly over Riccardi. Again close one. I think Kelly's leadership was underrated in that triple-premiership side. A bit of a practical-joker I think. But kept the group grounded and positive.

What about Mannagh v Podsiadly? (best "plucked from the vfl" type)

Mannagh for me, I think he keeps rising as a player for the next 3 years.

 

[Generalissimo]

What about Mannagh v Podsiadly? (best "plucked from the vfl" type)

For now, JPod. Mannagh hasn't been around long enough yet. I'd want to reevaluate in three years though.

 

[Seeds]

These are great ideas, I'll tackle the Danger vs Selwood.
Selwood is 100 percent Geelong so for Geelong discussion no one is higher (not even Ablett) for what they did at and for the club. In terms of damaging amazing player though, Danger takes the cake, he can do things only he can and no one else. So in conclusion, I don't have an answer haha!

Danger for me. Just a bit more x factor. But its very close.

 

[Seeds]

James Kelly vs Peter Riccardi

Rico. No kelly. No rico. Settle for rico.

 

[Seeds]

I'd go with Selwood by a whisker. I reckon he was a better leader, but there's really not a lot in it.

Jeremy Cameron or Mark Blicavs?

Cameron.

But i would choose david mensch over blicavs so im not sure my vote here means much.

 

[Jeff76]

I’m going Atkins over Rooke, Selwood over Danger, iPod over Mannagh (easy one) but the Guthrie boys is a tough one, I think Cam’s peak was pretty bloody good so I’ll go Cam.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Cameron.

But i would choose david mensch over blicavs so im not sure my vote here means much.

Why don’t you rate Blitz?

Imo -
Zuthrie
Rooke
Selwood
Jez
Kelly
Jpod atm but if mannagh continues on his way he will go past jpod

 

[Jeff76]

Ablett snr v Ablett Jnr?

 

[Seeds]

Why don’t you rate Blitz?

Imo -
Zuthrie
Rooke
Selwood
Jez
Kelly
Jpod atm but if mannagh continues on his way he will go past jpod

Cons: Poor disposal, awful in the ruck (except when relieving the other rucks in the last qtr), didnt find any where enough of the ball when playing mid/wing roles, often ran to the wrong positions, not a great mark (except when on undersized opponents one-on-one), at one point was the worst finals performer i have ever seen (has had some solid finals in the past 4 years though), used to hesitate way to much with ball in hand.

Pros: capable stopping defender (not elite but capable), was pretty solid run with with tagger, versatile.

I dont not rate blicavs. There were positives. I just think david mensch was better.

 

[Lingsface]

Garry Hocking vs Jimmy Bartel

 

[winty]

Malcolm blight vs john devine (battle for geelongs worst coach)

Surely Gary Ayres would have this in the bag.

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Jack Hawkins v Harry Taylor v Peter Walker

I think Jack Hawkins is the best CHB that Geel has had

 

[Lingsface]

Jack Hawkins v Harry Taylor v Peter Walker

I think Jack Hawkins is the best CHB that Geel has had

Matt Egan.

 

[Cataholic]

Ablett snr v Ablett Jnr?

Snr.....closely followed by Jnr.

 

[winty]

Ronnie Burns

Ronnie Burns

Age

52

Ht

183cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

2.3

2star

T

1.3

3star

G

1.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

12.8

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

0.4

3star

G

1.6

5star

vs Tyson Stengle

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Tyson Stengle

Age

27

Ht

175cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.3

2star

K

5.8

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

10.3

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.5

4star

D

8.8

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.6

5star

.

 

[Lingsface]

Ronnie Burns vs Tyson Stengle.

Loved Ronnie he has still got the mantle for me.
Second to only Stevie J.

 

[standupand]

Garry Hocking vs Jimmy Bartel

Both super courageous. I think Hocking was the more skillful but Bartel the better big-game player. I'd take Jimmy if I was picking sides.