Autopsy Autopsy vs Port Adelaide

[The Talent Scout]

Can't blame a brother for trying to get lucky.

 

[Frank Thring]

2 goals.

He also took a whopping 10 marks, which was three more than any other player on the ground for either team.

Forwards can take as many marks up the ground they want. No damage.

 

[Chadwiko]

Forwards can take as many marks up the ground they want. No damage.

Wasn't up the ground.

As I said, Port had a collective 15 marks inside forward 50. Do you understand how insane that is?

By way of comparison, here's some other teams that won this weekend and the amount of marks inside forward 50 they got this week;

Carlton (def. Geelong 94-76): 14 marks I50
Gold Coast (def. Sydney 117-79): 13 marks I50
Bulldogs (def. GWS 113-81): 7 marks I50
Freo (def. Adelaide 85-67): 7 marks I50

This notion that everything's hunky-dory because Port had a few brainfarts and kicked a ball into the man on the mark in the goalsquare, or shanked an easy snap 5 m out on a slight angle, or missed a few easy set shots... doesn't change what actually happened out on that footy field.

 

[koshari]

Wouldnt mind seeing mcDonald as sub..

I would be happy to see him in the magoos however we are simply not flush with options. To think we have bottomed out for 7 years and still haven't been able to build a competitive backline.

 

[Disco Dew]

Wasn't up the ground.

As I said, Port had a collective 15 marks inside forward 50. Do you understand how insane that is?

By way of comparison, here's some other teams that won this weekend and the amount of marks inside forward 50 they got this week;

Carlton (def. Geelong 94-76): 14 marks I50
Gold Coast (def. Sydney 117-79): 13 marks I50
Bulldogs (def. GWS 113-81): 7 marks I50
Freo (def. Adelaide 85-67): 7 marks I50

This notion that everything's hunky-dory because Port had a few brainfarts and kicked a ball into the man on the mark in the goalsquare, or shanked an easy snap 5 m out on a slight angle, or missed a few easy set shots... doesn't change what actually happened out on that footy field.

And we had 11.
The week before Carlton also had 15 marks inside 50 with our AA back men of corr and logue in there.

Not that I think anything is hunky-dory, just puzzled at the picking out of i50 marks this week.
It happens nearly every week against us lol

 

[ferball]

And we had 11.
The week before Carlton also had 15 marks inside 50 with our AA back men of corr and logue in there.

Not that I think anything is hunky-dory, just puzzled at the picking out of i50 marks this week.
It happens nearly every week against us lol

I think he's trying to draw a connection between Pink in the side and less marks inside our D50.

 

[Chadwiko]

I think he's trying to draw a connection between Pink in the side and less marks inside our D50.

No.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Toby Pink ffs. Stop coming into threads just trying to start fights and snipe at people. You think you're slick. You're not.

If I want to talk about Toby Pink, I'll talk about Toby Pink. I'm not trying to sneak a 6'4 ginger under the radar.

This is about me not liking our KPD structure with two talls, when those talls are Comben and Kawson. Neither of whom are particularly good one-on-one defenders.

If we were only running with two KPD talls, I would prefer Corr/Comben (see, not Pink).

 

[Chadwiko]

Not that I think anything is hunky-dory, just puzzled at the picking out of i50 marks this week.
It happens nearly every week against us lol

Using it as a metric to push back on people who think our KPD talls played great this week. They didn't. We just got lucky quite a few times that Port ****ed up what should have been gimmes.

 

[archereleven]

Wasn't up the ground.

As I said, Port had a collective 15 marks inside forward 50. Do you understand how insane that is?

By way of comparison, here's some other teams that won this weekend and the amount of marks inside forward 50 they got this week;

Carlton (def. Geelong 94-76): 14 marks I50
Gold Coast (def. Sydney 117-79): 13 marks I50
Bulldogs (def. GWS 113-81): 7 marks I50
Freo (def. Adelaide 85-67): 7 marks I50

This notion that everything's hunky-dory because Port had a few brainfarts and kicked a ball into the man on the mark in the goalsquare, or shanked an easy snap 5 m out on a slight angle, or missed a few easy set shots... doesn't change what actually happened out on that footy field.

Im not sure anyone thinks our kpds played great, but we certainly looked more agile and adaptable.

15 marks were taken i50, that means the ball was on the deck more often than not. If it wasn't for that poor 10 minutes in the first, we keep them under 80 and win the game.

 

[amaz199]

You can concede marks inside 50. It's based on who is more accurate and takes their chances.

Saints conceded 14 marks inside 50 three weeks ago at the same venue against the same side. They won by 17 points.

The score line after quarter time? Remarkably similar. 2.4 to 6.4 in Saints favour. We were the 2.4 this time against Port. Can't let teams get a head start.

 

[Jeremy Jordan]

Fighting my hardest to not say I was happy with our performance Saturday. Start of the year my whole mindset was ‘no honourable losses’, but considering how putrid the last few weeks have been, at least they showed some effort. God it would of been nice to snag that win.

My frustrations at the moment is I think this list currently is a 7th to 10th list. ‘Currently’. Obviously in the hope our young blokes improve to lift us higher. The Freo’s, the ports, the crows, the suns, the saints, I think our list sits around those teams that will be fighting for those remaining 2 finals spots. The difference currently is effort and to a lesser extent, execution.

Ive actually swayed a bit on our biggest issue being skills, to our biggest issue being effort, after watching some of the other games this year. The Easter Monday game was nearly the worst skilled game I’ve ever seen in my life, and even the cats blues game yesterday was horrible. Turnover after turnover, and skill error after skill error. But what those teams did better than us, is the want and effort to get the ball back after a f*** up. Especially their backlines.

I reckon we actually showed a bit of that after quarter time on the weekend. The want to not give up even after a brain dead turnover. Now if we come out against the bombers and revert back to our normal ‘world ends with every turnover, heads drop’ efforts, then I’ll lose it.

 

[tales129]

He missed a 10m snap being a smartass kicking the wrong side of the ball.

And one from the goal square kicking it into Comben on the mark.

Flattering.

On the flip side, Konstanty should have soccered that goal through, mckercher shat himself and kicked it on the full, and throw in Larkey not hitting a barn door.

Goes both ways

 

[BigRedRoo]

In almost every close Roos game for the last 5 years, you will find this 10 minutes period, where the opposition gets a run on and wins the game.

This is where on-field leadership is required to shut down play by taking possession and keeping it out of the hands of the opposition. No long kicks down the line, but work to retain the ball and take the heat out of the moment.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

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In almost every close Roos game for the last 5 years, you will find this 10 minutes period, where the opposition gets a run on and wins the game.

This is where on-field leadership is required to shut down play by taking possession and keeping it out of the hands of the opposition. No long kicks down the line, but work to retain the ball and take the heat out of the moment.

Yep.

The Half a quarter where teams kick 4+ unanswered is a hallmark.

 

[shintemaster]

Fighting my hardest to not say I was happy with our performance Saturday. Start of the year my whole mindset was ‘no honourable losses’, but considering how putrid the last few weeks have been, at least they showed some effort. God it would of been nice to snag that win.

My frustrations at the moment is I think this list currently is a 7th to 10th list. ‘Currently’. Obviously in the hope our young blokes improve to lift us higher. The Freo’s, the ports, the crows, the suns, the saints, I think our list sits around those teams that will be fighting for those remaining 2 finals spots. The difference currently is effort and to a lesser extent, execution.

Ive actually swayed a bit on our biggest issue being skills, to our biggest issue being effort, after watching some of the other games this year. The Easter Monday game was nearly the worst skilled game I’ve ever seen in my life, and even the cats blues game yesterday was horrible. Turnover after turnover, and skill error after skill error. But what those teams did better than us, is the want and effort to get the ball back after a f*** up. Especially their backlines.

I reckon we actually showed a bit of that after quarter time on the weekend. The want to not give up even after a brain dead turnover. Now if we come out against the bombers and revert back to our normal ‘world ends with every turnover, heads drop’ efforts, then I’ll lose it.

I'm with you on this stuff. I think worth remembering still that our core (the ones that are useful) is amongst the youngest going around. In particular this week when we drop two of our most experienced players it becomes younger again in both age and game terms. That we improved after this is a good sign.

I'm hopeful the team and match committee use this week as a lesson and we get some real value out of the year.

 

[BlueanWhiteKanga]

We could have won that game. Port were poor.
However, we were equally, if not poorer.

We let them get off to a great start, scoring 45 in the first quarter.
Larkey missed goals that he typically wouldn't
JK should have kicked it from so close instead of picking it up
Simpkin doing what he always does and relieving the pressure.
Daniel booting it out on the full...

Fix a couple of the above, and we win.
We were better than last week against Carlton for sure

Hardeman can't be dropped after that.
I think Duursma has earned a full game now surely.
KDawson did well in his first game of the season.
Parker, what a game from that man.

Real shame about PC's ban, really hope we get it appealed

 

[Rollmop]

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In almost every close Roos game for the last 5 years, you will find this 10 minutes period, where the opposition gets a run on and wins the game.

This is where on-field leadership is required to shut down play by taking possession and keeping it out of the hands of the opposition. No long kicks down the line, but work to retain the ball and take the heat out of the moment.

Yeah this is spot on. Every close game, the time on 3 or 4 goals kicked against us is real

 

[King Corey]

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In almost every close Roos game for the last 5 years, you will find this 10 minutes period, where the opposition gets a run on and wins the game.

This is where on-field leadership is required to shut down play by taking possession and keeping it out of the hands of the opposition. No long kicks down the line, but work to retain the ball and take the heat out of the moment.

I reckon we have a pattern of elevated I50s early and late in games with no effect, ie OOB, turned over.

We tend to find a little rhythm in 2nd quarters as discussed and enjoy a little nap in 3rd quarters.

 

[Disco Dew]

Just wanted to say (probably already said) but how good does Hardeman look?
Hope he’s a lock every week!

 

[franjon]

Pink or Dawson?

Dawson. Watched him a few times at Willi CYMS and he is quite adapt at playing forward.

 

[Caracas]

That screams unsustainable tbh. Was apparent the boys put a shift in but were let down by their skill level, particular from the veterans.

Can't see them being able to back that up effort with a 5 day break.

That’s the challenge for them. Collingwood and other teams are able to sustain their effort consistently. That has to be a non-negotiable, doesn’t it?

 

[Event Horizon]

Ultimately, after quarter time Port was there for the taking. Their run and confidence dropped due to our increased pressure and from there we just needed to finish them off. If Larkey had a good game (both catching it and kicking wise) we would have won

 

[Caracas]

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In almost every close Roos game for the last 5 years, you will find this 10 minutes period, where the opposition gets a run on and wins the game.

This is where on-field leadership is required to shut down play by taking possession and keeping it out of the hands of the opposition. No long kicks down the line, but work to retain the ball and take the heat out of the moment.

It’s a real problem area. It’s almost like both teams start on an even keel and spar for about 20 minutes. Then, inevitably, our opposition coaches make little tweaks that always seem to catch us on the hop. Presto, they score five goals before we re-adjust. Game(s) over.

 

[Friday Night Lights]

McDonald gifting them a 50 and subsequent goal when we’d just pulled it back to 6 points is the one that shits me most. Just brain dead, lazy, completely avoidable stuff from a leader.

 

[franjon]

McDonald gifting them a 50 and subsequent goal when we’d just pulled it back to 6 points is the one that shits me most. Just brain dead, lazy, completely avoidable stuff from a leader.

Yep. Another momentum killer. Hate singling people out but he does a bit of that. A bit like Simpkins turnovers.