Player Watch Daniel Curtin - Out injured for 3 months

[Jarman3]

Patiently waiting for us to drop 3 in a row so the club can roll out the contract extension to take the heat off.

 

[Velvet George]

That’s why he should never be in consideration for being dropped if he has a couple of quiet ones. 15 games he’s only played, a chunk as sub.

 

[Sizzlepack]

Quite pleased with what he's showing after some mild anxieties through the end of last season and this year's pre-season. Would have loved him to have seen some CBAs in the fourth quarter – perhaps there'll be a chance against West Coast.

 

[119others]

Shown some very good glimpses amongst some quiet games. Agree a breakout game is coming and congrats to Nicks and the coaches for playing him each week even when having multiple sub 10 possession games in a row. A big sign of confidence in the young fella which would be appreciated by Dan.

Very likely he extends for 2-3 years before the start of next year. Weagles are diabolical. Assuming Allan and Reid leave they may end up with picks 1,2 (FA compo), another first round pick AND more for Reid. Can’t imagine they would do it but wonder what Crows fans views are if they offered pick 2 for Curtin.

I read yesterday most top 10 players from 2023 onwards (first year top 20 players got 3 year initial contracts) are getting 700k ish for subsequent contracts, sounds about right to me. Curtin extended for 2-3 years at 700-800k.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Shown some very good glimpses amongst some quiet games. Agree a breakout game is coming and congrats to Nicks and the coaches for playing him each week even when having multiple sub 10 possession games in a row. A big sign of confidence in the young fella which would be appreciated by Dan.

Very likely he extends for 2-3 years before the start of next year. Weagles are diabolical. Assuming Allan and Reid leave they may end up with picks 1,2 (FA compo), another first round pick AND more for Reid. Can’t imagine they would do it but wonder what Crows fans views are if they offered pick 2 for Curtin.

I read yesterday most top 10 players from 2023 onwards (first year top 20 players got 3 year initial contracts) are getting 700k ish for subsequent contracts, sounds about right to me. Curtin extended for 2-3 years at 700-800k.

Many questioned his AFL role, last year .....however the unquestioned improvement in Curtin's game in year 2, says we have a Dawson clone of equal ability

15 games into his career, he looks so comfortable ....and his aerial work has come on in leaps & bounds ....it took Dawson 4 years at SYD to breakout

I agree, can see Curtin staying long-term

 

[Scorpus]

Some may be disappointed with this player comparison, but I think this is where Curtin is going to end up - 2023 Mason Wood

That is, someone who can take a contested mark off a wing, collect possessions, have a great field kick, and bob up for a goal now and then. Keep in mind Wood was in line for AA conversations for some of 2023

Maybe not a standout player - but a structurally important, yet ‘sexy’ player

Curtin has a deft touch and elite skills that peak Mason Wood doesn't have

 

[Geoffa32]

B

Always liked having a tall marking wingman... with good kicking skills.

Should aim for him more in kickouts 1 on 1...

I always felt Brett Burton's best work was being that high marking option on the wing.

 

[Hell Boy6669]

Curtin has a deft touch and elite skills that peak Mason Wood doesn't have

Also much stronger overhead

 

[skam85]

Some may be disappointed with this player comparison, but I think this is where Curtin is going to end up - 2023 Mason Wood

32

Mason Wood

Age

32

Ht

192cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.3

2star

D

8.3

2star

K

2.7

1star

HB

5.7

3star

M

1.7

2star

T

1.3

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

That is, someone who can take a contested mark off a wing, collect possessions, have a great field kick, and bob up for a goal now and then. Keep in mind Wood was in line for AA conversations for some of 2023

Maybe not a standout player - but a structurally important, yet ‘sexy’ player

If one of our highest ever draft picks ends up with Mason Wood comparisons then that will count as a loss

 

[Betts are off]

I think with Curtin's level of comfort at the AFL level now, its probably a good time for the team to start bleeding in some CBA's for him in 2025. Doesn't have to be a lot, even 1 or 2 a game would be fine. But just get him some minutes in the middle to keep that tool sharp, even if its junk time minutes.

 

[Golumless]

I think with Curtin's level of comfort at the AFL level now, its probably a good time for the team to start bleeding in some CBA's for him in 2025. Doesn't have to be a lot, even 1 or 2 a game would be fine. But just get him some minutes in the middle to keep that tool sharp, even if its junk time minutes.

There is no need to rush into any CBA's with Curtin. Wing/half forward will keep the contested skill sharp (after all, contested skills are the difference between having an AFL career and not) and most of the extra stuff can be refined when Curtins performances are demanding a more important role.

 

[Betts are off]

There is no need to rush into any CBA's with Curtin. Wing/half forward will keep the contested skill sharp (after all, contested skills are the difference between having an AFL career and not) and most of the extra stuff can be refined when Curtins performances are demanding a more important role.

I genuinely don't think it would hurt to be pro-active in this space, either the team's performance or with his development. They played him in the middle last year when he was a lot further back then he is now. Both in terms of fitness and readiness.

For me our midfield is looking light years better in 2025, but it's still not at the top of the competition, and getting point of difference players like Curtin 1 or 2 developmental rotations is going to bridge that gap.

 

[cmndstab]

He's building very nicely. The next step for Curtin will be to push his disposal average up from 10-ish touches to 15-ish touches.

Everything he does is quality, he just needs to do a bit more of it.

 

[Cleric]

I was really worried that he may be put back into the seconds due to lack of a position, or being too tall in the forward line, but Nicks has kept playing him, which is awesome.

I am a little worried that he hasn't extended his contract yet, and the club has had offers in front of him for awhile.
I have this feeling that either WC or Freo are going to make a big play for him.

 

[DJ75]

Shown some very good glimpses amongst some quiet games. Agree a breakout game is coming and congrats to Nicks and the coaches for playing him each week even when having multiple sub 10 possession games in a row. A big sign of confidence in the young fella which would be appreciated by Dan.

Very likely he extends for 2-3 years before the start of next year. Weagles are diabolical. Assuming Allan and Reid leave they may end up with picks 1,2 (FA compo), another first round pick AND more for Reid. Can’t imagine they would do it but wonder what Crows fans views are if they offered pick 2 for Curtin.

I read yesterday most top 10 players from 2023 onwards (first year top 20 players got 3 year initial contracts) are getting 700k ish for subsequent contracts, sounds about right to me. Curtin extended for 2-3 years at 700-800k.

They might very well offer Curtin a big contract and the chance to play with his brother (who they promise to draft).

I really hope we keep Dan, but if we don't, we should be able to demand a huge trade bounty. They will have many top end picks they can trade. We could demand pick 2, another top 10 pick and a late first round pick.

 

[crows dude]

He's building very nicely. The next step for Curtin will be to push his disposal average up from 10-ish touches to 15-ish touches.

Everything he does is quality, he just needs to do a bit more of it.

id take Curtins 15 touches over Crouch/Lairds 25. Imagine how good he will be once hes getting 20 plus

 

[Jarman3]

They might very well offer Curtin a big contract and the chance to play with his brother (who they promise to draft).

I really hope we keep Dan, but if we don't, we should be able to demand a huge trade bounty. They will have many top end picks they can trade. We could demand pick 2, another top 10 pick and a late first round pick.

As much as I rate Curtin, there is no way his value is 3 firsts including pick 2 and another top 10.

 

[crows dude]

They might very well offer Curtin a big contract and the chance to play with his brother (who they promise to draft).

I really hope we keep Dan, but if we don't, we should be able to demand a huge trade bounty. They will have many top end picks they can trade. We could demand pick 2, another top 10 pick and a late first round pick.

 

[DJ75]

As much as I rate Curtin, there is no way his value is 3 firsts including pick 2 and another top 10.

I agree, but it's the perfect time to demand something like that.
WC would be desperate for a win after losing Reid, so to bring in a hugely promising guy would be a positive they can sell to fans.
They would also have so many picks that giving us overs wouldn't have as big an impact as normal. They would still be able to pick the eyes out of the draft.

It looks silly on paper, but it might not be that silly in reality.

 

[Golumless]

I genuinely don't think it would hurt to be pro-active in this space, either the team's performance or with his development. They played him in the middle last year when he was a lot further back then he is now. Both in terms of fitness and readiness.

For me our midfield is looking light years better in 2025, but it's still not at the top of the competition, and getting point of difference players like Curtin 1 or 2 developmental rotations is going to bridge that gap.

No, it won't, it will do nothing (in that it will neither harm nor help a player like Curtin) to bridge that gap at this point in time. If the kid isn't a prodigious contested beast (and if they are, we skip to the step where they're ready for the role), it's just a do-nothing sugar-hit for coaching group to placate a fan base and pretend they care about developing the future. Inside midfield is not a specialised position that requires players to be developed in it, and the hardest part of an inside midfield role is something players has to combat on the wing, half forward and half back flank, which is finding a way to get into dangerous positions and be involved when the game is in transition i.e. getting your outside game into a good spot. The contested work is mainly a reflection on the state your game is in and how it measures up to your opponent (and if its dismal enough that you need to work on it outside of just building up your endurance/body and small tweaks from experience, you're all but screwed as an AFL footballer).

Where giving those CBA's becomes valuable is when a player is putting up performances where they're ready to take that next step and force their way into an inside midfield unit, as that's part of the way of building the trust with a coaching group that the form/talent is legitimate.

id take Curtins 15 touches over Crouch/Lairds 25. Imagine how good he will be once hes getting 20 plus

That depends on how he's getting to 20 plus. If it means his contested ball rate keeps rising, the quality of Curtins touches will lower.

The key for Curtin is to learn how to accumulate outside ball in bunches, which is usually an early-hurdle prospective midfielders need to overcome.

 

[Jarman3]

I agree, but it's the perfect time to demand something like that.
WC would be desperate for a win after losing Reid, so to bring in a hugely promising guy would be a positive they can sell to fans.
They would also have so many picks that giving us overs wouldn't have as big an impact as normal. They would still be able to pick the eyes out of the draft.

It looks silly on paper, but it might not be that silly in reality.

Well if they do offer us that then it's start the car time.

 

[DJ75]

Well if they do offer us that then it's start the car time.

I don't think they will offer it, and I'm not sure we would get it, but it would be worth starting with something like that.

 

[Cromulant]

I don't think they will offer it, and I'm not sure we would get it, but it would be worth starting with something like that.

We'd be laughed out of the room

 

[1970crow]

Yeah nah he's going to be a lot better than that

Going to be near impossible to beat in one on one contests. Still hard to peg him though, Westhoff when he was at his best, but that feels a little light on. And then there’s his ground ball ability, strength and burst, another Bont? The only thing I’m reasonably confident about is defence would be a waste, but what if he became a 5 time AA KPD, winning contests and hitting 50m passes that open up opposition.

 

[dogs105]

Going to be near impossible to beat in one on one contests. Still hard to peg him though, Westhoff when he was at his best, but that feels a little light on. And then there’s his ground ball ability, strength and burst, another Bont? The only thing I’m reasonably confident about is defence would be a waste, but what if he became a 5 time AA KPD, winning contests and hitting 50m passes that open up opposition.

Draft his brother for that...