Preview Changes vs North Melbourne (Sunday 11 May 2025 • 4:40 PM)

[Dalions]

I think ultimately, a bit more help for Oscar for the next few weeks will hold him in good stead for later in the year.
So I am happy to give Fort a bit of an extended run until such times as Day is back.
So Fort for Day
Morris for Gardiner and
Lohmann for Shagger
McKenna to Sub

 

[werdna78]

Mac Andrew has a terrible attitude, despite that, IMO very likely will end up a very good intercepting defender. Has good closing speed and a long reach. When we play them again, later in the year on their home track, I would be trying to negate Mac Andrew not Collins who plays the deeper lockdown type defender role.

I noticed in the Suns warm-up, he was the first to pull up when doing the sprints.

 

[dlanod]

Ordinarily, the "don't play a teenager in the ruck" mantra is fairly reliable.

Not with Ty Gallop. He loves the physical - the crash and bash. He will relish the relief ruck opportunity. Never took a backward step against Moyle. Time to unleash the beast.

The concern is about damaging a still growing body. It'll be interesting to see what the medicos think for Gallop - Henry Smith was still growing until about a year or so ago based off his growth plates, so that's why he hadn't even been rucking a heap in the VFL over the years until more recently.

 

[Gadzorks]

It's expected to be cold in Tassie. Much colder than we've been use to. Does cold weather increase the chance of hamstrings, calves, those sort of soft tissue injuries happening? Would we be risking some players recovery or gambling with a players soft tissue injury history if we played them? The calf of Morris, or the ageing hamstrings of Charlie as examples. We could rest those susceptible, manage others.

Yes. I say rest the old men prone to soft tissue injuries for this one. To heck with the percentage, we are so far behind it doesn't matter at this stage..

 

[buttermuffs]

Play Fort against Melbourne and Gallop against the rest.

What we lose in some extra ruck craft we gain in the feral attitude Ty brings with his pressure. If it doesn’t work out after 3-4 games then bring Fort back in for the last couple games until Day is fit again.

 

[Sunny Land]

The concern is about damaging a still growing body. It'll be interesting to see what the medicos think for Gallop - Henry Smith was still growing until about a year or so ago based off his growth plates, so that's why he hadn't even been rucking a heap in the VFL over the years until more recently.

Didn't worry them doing that with Hippy. He has been our number 1 or 2 key forward since 2016.

 

[dlanod]

Didn't worry them doing that with Hippy. He has been our number 1 or 2 key forward since 2016.

The post I was replying to and my post were both talking about rucking specifically. Eric has done negligible ruckwork ever.

 

[Tom14]

The post I was replying to and my post were both talking about rucking specifically. Eric has done negligible ruckwork ever.

Eric also just recovered from OP and is too valuable to waste doing relief ruck work. Just play Fort.

No harm to Ty in getting more experience at VFL level.

 

[Section 5]

A 4.40 PM game in Hobart
Weather forecast a bit cloudy.
Temperature 16 C down to around 12 C. If that happens not too bad for a May night in Hobart
Basically, a night game as the sun sets at 5 PM

 

[mpal6]

Yes. I say rest the old men prone to soft tissue injuries for this one. To heck with the percentage, we are so far behind it doesn't matter at this stage..

I think Fagan's approach is not to change winning combo unless there are injuries.

Logan and Kai if fit will get back in for Day and Shagga. McKenna sub or could be Doedee if ready.

 

[Ceebee]

A 4.40 PM game in Hobart
Weather forecast a bit cloudy.
Temperature 16 C down to around 12 C. If that happens not too bad for a May night in Hobart
Basically, a night game as the sun sets at 5 PM

Going to be there

 

[Berrygood]

Eric also just recovered from OP and is too valuable to waste doing relief ruck work. Just play Fort.

No harm to Ty in getting more experience at VFL level.

He will get plenty of testing ruck work in the vfl, especially if Fort is promoted. Smith out for 10, Ryan out with a facial fracture for who knows how long. He could easily end up doing 70+% of the ruck work over the next 4-6 games. Hopefully a quick study. Harry Arnold playing fwd in the ressies, young Lloyd the next tall fwd option. I guess they will get some ruck testing as well. I think ZZ may have even had a go last game.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Fort in for Day
Morris in for Gardiner
Lohmann in for McLachlan

McKenna (Sub)

 

[3KZ is Football]

I'd be playing Fort against Melbourne.

I agree, which means he needs the run against North Melbourne too.

 

[knaf]

He will get plenty of testing ruck work in the vfl, especially if Fort is promoted. Smith out for 10, Ryan out with a facial fracture for who knows how long. He could easily end up doing 70+% of the ruck work over the next 4-6 games. Hopefully a quick study. Harry Arnold playing fwd in the ressies, young Lloyd the next tall fwd option. I guess they will get some ruck testing as well. I think ZZ may have even had a go last game.

I think ZZ’s best work in the under 18s was as a mobile ruck. Someone who follows the under18s can confirm or correct me. However if true giving him ruck time in the vfl may help his overall development. Having said that he looks undersized for an AFL ruck.

 

[mpal6]

I think ZZ’s best work in the under 18s was as a mobile ruck. Someone who follows the under18s can confirm or correct me. However if true giving him ruck time in the vfl may help his overall development. Having said that he looks undersized for an AFL ruck.

Yep, I was reading up on the same. If he grows a little bit more - he'll be a great option to invest for future ruck like we developed Smith over the years.

 

[Elixuh]

Have a bad feeling about this one.

 

[Section 5]

He will get plenty of testing ruck work in the vfl, especially if Fort is promoted. Smith out for 10, Ryan out with a facial fracture for who knows how long. He could easily end up doing 70+% of the ruck work over the next 4-6 games. Hopefully a quick study. Harry Arnold playing fwd in the ressies, young Lloyd the next tall fwd option. I guess they will get some ruck testing as well. I think ZZ may have even had a go last game.

It would be good for ZZ's development to get a run around the ground in the ruck.
No big reason he needs to win many hit outs (same with Gallop) just get his positioning right when playing in the ruck.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Have a bad feeling about this one.

Recent history has a message for you Elixuh … “Relax”




I think we got this. Our average winning margin for our last three games against North Melbourne is 84 points.

 

[davemc_lions]

I know people saying we go one ruck and rest Oscar in the forward line.
No one really rests for long up forward they are not stay in goal square anymore everyone spreads.
Not sure it great for Oscar to basically do 90%+ of the ruck work next three week
Xerri, Gawn and Meek not push overs. I have Xerri and Gawn in top 2 Rucks.
Then Goldstein, O'Brien and Briggs.
So Hipwood doing 15-20% and getting smashed by big bodies for 6 weeks not great.
Smith injured again a shame so really it Bigger Body Fort or we go Gallop and hope it pays off like Morris did last year.

Dizzy gives his all and a bigger mature body.. Although offensively you get 1 goal if you lucky or he is
When he did his ACL injured we found Morris who offers so much more as a forward..
Seeing Tassie be subzero normally do we rest Morris this week and his calf.

The other problem is Kiddy and Doedee. Funny how Kiddy needs a few weeks although Ashcroft came straight back.
You think Doedee ready I hate to see Froggy go. Would Lester offer more then Gardiner forward?
Although I think Oscar probably offers a lot as a forward then Dizzy/Lester.. Hence do we go Fort.

We going to have to get Doedee in soon so be someone.
Then we have Kiddy and Starc to come back.

 

[Viceregal]

Has Lester ever rucked? (intentionally not like Black and Charlie)

 

[3KZ is Football]

Lester stays. He’s cemented his spot and become a Premiership player. Thing have changed radically since Doedee was drafted.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Has Lester ever rucked? (intentionally not like Black and Charlie)

Used to go third man up a bit when it was allowed IIRC

 

[Saucery]

Play Fort against Melbourne and Gallop against the rest.

What we lose in some extra ruck craft we gain in the feral attitude Ty brings with his pressure. If it doesn’t work out after 3-4 games then bring Fort back in for the last couple games until Day is fit again.

Even ruck relief is a brutal role, not for a kid who has never done it before. Personally, I agree with those reluctant to run Hippy as a ruck in the middle, if we lose him then we have really got problems.

We are the premiers and don't need to push the kid too far too fast no matter what. The Fort/Oscar combo might not result in many direct scores, but Day wasn't either.

I'm sure they can compete as well as Day, spoil and bring the ball to ground and let the small forwards have at it.

 

[BangyBangy]

It's expected to be cold in Tassie. Much colder than we've been use to. Does cold weather increase the chance of hamstrings, calves, those sort of soft tissue injuries happening? Would we be risking some players recovery or gambling with a players soft tissue injury history if we played them? The calf of Morris, or the ageing hamstrings of Charlie as examples. We could rest those susceptible, manage others.

Forecast has been updated now to Min 9, Max 19. I'm not sure you could get better conditions for footy.

Late afternoon it'll be low teens. Might be a tad chilly if you're sedentary watching the game from the stands, perfect conditions for playing.