Review Rozee's Port adelaide respond with a loss

[gtrxuone]

Rebuilt the club? Hinkley? Carn. This false narrative has to stop.

Lil i would stop short of a rebuild.
But if we cant make finals.Its probably time to give Josh a go.Remember Zack Butters will access 2026 @ Port.Before the hottest property in footy makes his decision.On where he will be in 2027.
Im not a Ken hater.He and Koshy have worked hard to make,Port profitable and relevant.
But the seasons done after round 9.That gives Josh 13 rounds to see what can be done.If its no good than we look outside the club for 26.
We have gone around in circles for a number of seasons.

 

[FishingRick04]

The next Adam Kingsley

Next Duursma perhaps

 

[Chrizzt]

he did have a good moment in the 3rd (close to the goal line for us) when he got into Worrells head .. and Worrell complained to the umpires

Would you say he terrorised Worrell?

 

[PowerLil]

Lil i would stop short of a rebuild.
But if we cant make finals.Its probably time to give Josh a go.Remember Zack Butters will access 2026 @ Port.Before the hottest property in footy makes his decision.On where he will be in 2027.
Im not a Ken hater.He and Koshy have worked hard to make,Port profitable and relevant.
But the seasons done after round 9.That gives Josh 13 rounds to see what can be done.If its no good than we look outside the club for 26.
We have gone around in circles for a number of seasons.

Hinkley had undone any of the goodwill generated by 13 & 14 by the end of 2017 and should have immediately been sacked when he requested to be released from his contract. That's not a person with the club front of mind.
Koch pffft. Previous regime did the hard yards i.e. fought the sanfl, moved us to Adelaide oval which turned the club around.

 

[Scodges]

What else have we got. It's alarming that's who we have to choose from

He’s talking about mismatch. Maybe Allir got beaten tonight, but he’s a gun defender. Rat did well. Bergman got moved to mid. We have BZT waiting to come back in. Walsh played well in the seconds. That’s who we got answering your question. But honestly, I’ve read your posts since I joined BigFooty and disagreed with almost all of your negative comments. You must be a real pleasure to hang with in real life

 

[gtrxuone]

Hinkley had undone any of the goodwill generated by 13 & 14 by the end of 2017 and should have immediately been sacked when he requested to be released from his contract. That's not a person with the club front of mind.
Koch pffft. Previous regime did the hard yards i.e. fought the sanfl, moved us to Adelaide oval which turned the club around.

Lil im hoping Ken does the Gentleman thing.And steps down .Tuesday night of Wednesday morning.Contract of coarse, paid in full.
We are wasting the rest of the season.Even if we string together 7 in a row.And flop in the first week of the finals.Its just unproductive for Port Adelaide.
Reading last night stats.Without knowing the score.9 out of 10 times, you would think a Port 5 goal + win.
The message is lost with the two coach setup.Its just not working.The players didn't need any motivation for a home Showdown.

 

[PowerLil]

Lil im hoping Ken does the Gentleman thing.And steps down .Tuesday night of Wednesday morning.Contract of coarse, paid in full.
We are wasting the rest of the season.Even if we string together 7 in a row.And flop in the first week of the finals.Its just unproductive for Port Adelaide.
Reading last night stats.Without knowing the score.9 out of 10 times, you would think a Port 5 goal + win.
The message is lost with the two coach setup.Its just not working.The players didn't need any motivation for a home Showdown.

Based on past behaviours, Hinkley won't walk without a full payout. Just got back from interstate this morning so wasn't at Adelaide oval last night. Winning all the key stats but losing is a hallmark of Hinkley's coaching, very poor coaching, game plan, skill execution, selections.

 

[gtrxuone]

Based on past behaviours, Hinkley won't walk without a full payout. Just got back from interstate this morning so wasn't at Adelaide oval last night. Winning all the key stats but losing is a hallmark of Hinkley's coaching, very poor coaching, game plan, skill execution, selections.

Hope Ken or Koshy is reading your post.
He must know the time,is now.
If Josh can turn it around.Or only win 3 of our last 12 games.
We will know where we are at 2026,pre season.

 

[Portwrld]

I would love to hear murmurs of an emergency meeting tomorrow night. Give Ken what he’s owed, and he leaves the club. It’s time the higher-ups at the club swallow their pride and make the right decision to sack him. He won’t walk. He has the most comfortable job in all of Australia unless he’s paid out in full. So let’s fast forward to him leaving instead of waiting until the bye, or, God forbid, the end of the season, and give Josh time to implement his game plan and hope things improve, so the season is not completely ruined.

 

[gbear]

13th and no first round draft pick

You get what you deserve! The club is currently run by a bunch of Muppets.

 

[JHF1870]

He’s talking about mismatch. Maybe Allir got beaten tonight, but he’s a gun defender. Rat did well. Bergman got moved to mid. We have BZT waiting to come back in. Walsh played well in the seconds. That’s who we got answering your question. But honestly, I’ve read your posts since I joined BigFooty and disagreed with almost all of your negative comments. You must be a real pleasure to hang with in real life

Aliirs main weakness is holding down one on one contests. Other than that, he's top level

 

[JHF1870]

I would love to hear murmurs of an emergency meeting tomorrow night. Give Ken what he’s owed, and he leaves the club. It’s time the higher-ups at the club swallow their pride and make the right decision to sack him. He won’t walk. He has the most comfortable job in all of Australia unless he’s paid out in full. So let’s fast forward to him leaving instead of waiting until the bye, or, God forbid, the end of the season, and give Josh time to implement his game plan and hope things improve, so the season is not completely ruined.

The depth of our list isnt there mate.
Even if we got 30% out of our mid core players, we have no strength 23-30 ranked players. Im telling you and you can bookmark this. We will go backwards before we go forwards under Carr.

Chris Scott couldn't elevate us to contender.

 

[Portwrld]

The depth of our list isnt there mate.
Even if we got 30% out of our mid core players, we have no strength 23-30 ranked players. Im telling you and you can bookmark this. We will go backwards before we go forwards under Carr.

Chris Scott couldn't elevate us to contender.

Yeah, there are slight deficiencies in the depth of our list, but this is still the same list, more or less, that played in a preliminary final against Sydney last season. This current list is good enough to make finals at a bare minimum, and coaching, once again, is so poor that it has bitten us in the backside. A winnable game of football has gone down the toilet because of poor coaching from Ken, Corn, and Goldsack. Whether we like it or not, this will become Josh’s team, and the quicker we make the transition to that, the better. The season is still salvageable, but it will quickly slip away from us if we don’t take action now.

 

[Palpatine_Power]

I see winning a random Showdown is still the pinnacle of Camry existence

Enjoy guys, you'll definitely win it all this year, it's basically 2017 all over again

 

[JHF1870]

Yeah, there are slight deficiencies in the depth of our list, but this is still the same list, more or less, that played in a preliminary final against Sydney last season. This current list is good enough to make finals at a bare minimum, and coaching, once again, is so poor that it has bitten us in the backside. A winnable game of football has gone down the toilet because of poor coaching from Ken, Corn, and Goldsack. Whether we like it or not, this will become Josh’s team, and the quicker we make the transition to that, the better. The season is still salvageable, but it will quickly slip away from us if we don’t take action now.

I respectfully disagree. We had a good run to the finals last year with some close wins. Our lower to mid cpre group of players is no where near the standard of the best teams.

Mcentee
Lord
Sinn
Mead
Jones

Evans


Those guys at this stage are not as good as the bottom 5 of the contebders.

Then who do we have outside the best 22?

This is why we are being exposed in big games.

 

[JHF1870]

Yeah, there are slight deficiencies in the depth of our list, but this is still the same list, more or less, that played in a preliminary final against Sydney last season. This current list is good enough to make finals at a bare minimum, and coaching, once again, is so poor that it has bitten us in the backside. A winnable game of football has gone down the toilet because of poor coaching from Ken, Corn, and Goldsack. Whether we like it or not, this will become Josh’s team, and the quicker we make the transition to that, the better. The season is still salvageable, but it will quickly slip away from us if we don’t take action now.

Bookmark mynposts. We will go backwards under Carr. There is no salvaging this season. The list isnt there. We are half a dozen players short.

 

[scotty13]

Geez not having Willie hurt... He would have been 10x better than 4 disposal Jed.

 

[Bump Bailey]

Bookmark mynposts. We will go backwards under Carr. There is no salvaging this season. The list isnt there. We are half a dozen players short.

Not too many of us are bothered by the prospect of taking a few steps backwards to go towards under Carr.

At least we’ll have a clear sense of identity and what we’re building towards, as opposed to this mediocre purgatory we’re stuck in under Ken, dumping youngsters and recalling veterans or spuds in a damage limitation exercise.

We’ve never truly been a contender under Ken post-2014 anyway - if you can’t get within 12 goals of your prelim opponent (‘21), 14 goals of your QF opponent (‘24) and haven’t even played off in the last day in September, you aren’t a ‘contender’.

Rip the bandaid off now and begin the long journey back now, I’m ready.

 

[JHF1870]

Not too many of us are bothered by the prospect of taking a few steps backwards to go towards under Carr.

At least we’ll have a clear sense of identity and what we’re building towards, as opposed to this mediocre purgatory we’re stuck in under Ken, dumping youngsters and recalling veterans or spuds in a damage limitation exercise.

We’ve never truly been a contender under Ken post-2014 anyway - if you can’t get within 12 goals of your prelim opponent (‘21), 14 goals of your QF opponent (‘24) and haven’t even played off in the last day in September, you aren’t a ‘contender’.

Rip the bandaid off now and begin the long journey back now, I’m ready.

We had two genuine attempts at a premiership and missed out.

I'm not arguing with what you're saying, just pointing it out to people who think axing Ken now is going to magically put us in contention by being under Josh Carr. I've started another thread about this and we're already seeing some of Josh's coaching come through this season. There is Some transition happening.

People seem to think he's going to be a super level above Ken from the get go and get us to finals. It's not happening.

I see this season as a proving ground for players. This season we do some recruiting, next season some drafting, and it might take another to get back into a position we want to be in. For anyone thinking this is less than 3 years away needs to reevaluate.

 

[JHF1870]

If Mitch had made the most of his opportunities he could be in contention for AA. He's been good for us but not to his potential missing gettable shots, and dropping gettable marks.

 

[Portwrld]

Not too many of us are bothered by the prospect of taking a few steps backwards to go towards under Carr.

At least we’ll have a clear sense of identity and what we’re building towards, as opposed to this mediocre purgatory we’re stuck in under Ken, dumping youngsters and recalling veterans or spuds in a damage limitation exercise.

We’ve never truly been a contender under Ken post-2014 anyway - if you can’t get within 12 goals of your prelim opponent (‘21), 14 goals of your QF opponent (‘24) and haven’t even played off in the last day in September, you aren’t a ‘contender’.

Rip the bandaid off now and begin the long journey back now, I’m ready.

I think we can make the finals if Ken leaves, despite how tough the second half will be. If we’ve got to go backwards to go forwards, so be it. I’m not bothered by it either, as long as Ken buggers off and Josh is given the time to implement his game plan in his image, I don’t care if we gotta suffer short term pain as long as it’s setting down rock-solid foundations for premiership success, but this can only be fast-tracked if Ken gets sacked. So as you’ve mentioned let’s rip this Band-Aid.

 

[KenGaveUsWhatHeDeserved]

We lost because we played Jed McEntee

How come literally every single big footy participant can see it?

and why did we play Jed?

I haven't followed this week, but have we slaughtered Rioli, or is he untouchable because he's indigenous?

if i get banned i guess I'll have my answer on that

 

[Scodges]

Pretty insane how our team is so player dependant.

No Rozee in the backline no rebound
No Rioli in the forward like no scores and pressure
No Aliir in the backline no intercepts
No Butters in the midfield no groundballs/clearences
No Dixon in the forward line no contested marking

We lose any of those key players and have someone like JHF have an off day the oppo piles on goals. Lord, Mead types just dont cut it let alone make the grade.

Give Lord as many games as is gifted to Mead, then we can see development or not.

 

[KenGaveUsWhatHeDeserved]

It's 1 game and about 3 minutes. Insane take to have already decided he won't work for us.

His GC output as a forward would seem him significantly improve our forward line over players who have replaced him.

seen enough of Luko

low intensity, lackadaisical, Marshall type player who can't impact the play

if we don't play a lead and receive forward line he is redundant anyway.

Marshall is finished. he knows this, the club knows this. pay him out and tell him to get on work his life

 

[KenGaveUsWhatHeDeserved]

I’m no fan of luko but he kicks all of those set shots we missed.. that’s what he can do

we push forwards up and back so often they're exhausted. that's part of why players shank goals compared to yesteryear

how Luko plays depend on what Ken and Carr want. to date that is manic up and back pressing

hardwick didnt see a reason to keep him
says enough to me