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He was. And it was damning
But he also clearly looked hampered by a leg injury - the kind of detail
None of these commentators are across - although I guess if you play you are deemed fit. Which he obviously wasn’t. Needs to be rested but I can understand why they brought him in for Carlton.
Watching him behind the goals in the first quarter he seemed like normal but I think it started playing up again and he just got slower as the game went on. Probably one of those "im fit enough to play but I hope it doesn't aggravate" and it did.

Problem is that if we switched him up with Caminiti we probably would have leaked those goals anyway and broken what forward line structure we had. Honestly I think Higgin's being unable to finish the game hurt us way more then Howard being at 75%, with the way the ball was coming into our forward line I tihnk he could have kicked another 2.
 
He was. And it was damning
But he also clearly looked hampered by a leg injury - the kind of detail
None of these commentators are across - although I guess if you play you are deemed fit. Which he obviously wasn’t. Needs to be rested but I can understand why they brought him in for Carlton.
Nah, the footage of him leaving Wilson to cover Harry had nothing to do with his injury just pure laziness
Hopefully he goes at the end of the year
 
Nah, the footage of him leaving Wilson to cover Harry had nothing to do with his injury just pure laziness
Hopefully he goes at the end of the year
Camma has shown alot more willingness and intent than Doogs this year.

Were mid table anyway, cant see the point in persisting with Doogs when Camma might get beaten more often but has way more upside (IMO at least).

If ****ing King ever plays and we can afford to just let Camma play back just do that.
 

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Didn't see any footy this weekend but re: Bergman if Joey says it has merit - then it has merit. He makes us a better team regardless of the position he plays imo, all comes down to cost.

Keen to hear alternative midfield targets.
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Didn't see any footy this weekend but re: Bergman if Joey says it has merit - then it has merit. He makes us a better team regardless of the position he plays imo, all comes down to cost.

Keen to hear alternative midfield targets.
The obvious mid would be Worpel, he's a free agent, but I really don't think he'll leave Hawthorn. He's probably not A grade but he would definitely improve us.

If the idea is to move Nasiah into the middle then Bergman helps with that too.
 
The obvious mid would be Worpel, he's a free agent, but I really don't think he'll leave Hawthorn. He's probably not A grade but he would definitely improve us.

If the idea is to move Nasiah into the middle then Bergman helps with that too.
Happy to give our 1st pick for Bergman ?
 
The obvious mid would be Worpel, he's a free agent, but I really don't think he'll leave Hawthorn. He's probably not A grade but he would definitely improve us.

If the idea is to move Nasiah into the middle then Bergman helps with that too.
Tbh I think Worpel is more likely to leave. Hawks have a few young mids who can't get a consistent full time midfield gig because of him; MacKenzie, Ward, Hustwaite while MacDonald & Moore can also run through there
 

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Wait so this entire time you've been giving me crap for Bergman's kicking and James Worpel is your alternative ?!

Like I get Bergman costs a late FRDP but deary me
You really are clueless lol
 
It's looking more and more likely to be a top ten pick so the simple answer is no. Seems we will have a few players we are after, I'll wait and see who it all ends up being but if it's a top ten pick I think you want to keep it.
Agree, like you said move NAS into the midfield with Pou and grab JSOS for nothing to play back

I like Bergman but not our 1st round pick and he isn’t the answer for our midfield problems, we don’t need someone going at DE 52%
 
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Wait so this entire time you've been giving me crap for Bergman's kicking and James Worpel is your alternative ?!

Like I get Bergman costs a late FRDP but deary me
Late 1st for the next Dangerfield? Don’t think so
 

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The talk about getting Worpel and TDK, they both seem slight improvements on Steele and Marshall and are 3-4 years younger so they get shifted into the age profile of the core group of our 18-26 year olds. I can't see us retaining Steele or Marshall on the list if we bring those guys in because they play similar roles so unless we shift Steele/Marshall into forward-line roles (which I can't see happening), then they will likely be on the trade table. Not saying I agree or disagree with that, but it's just a prediction of what might unfold. I think there can be implications for trading away heart and soul type players but everyone knows it's a business now.
 
Happy to give our 1st pick for Bergman ?
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