List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion

[Mowman]

That's fine

I'll clarify my point so you can fully understand my perspective

I would be happy if the club traded a late first rounder OR a future first for Bergman

I would be unhappy if the club traded a pick 1-10 for Bergman (subject to change depending on draft pool)

I think Bergman can be a best 22 midfielder in a premiership-contending team going forward - more so than other HB-mid players such as Coffield/Jones etc. Even if he doesn't make it, I think he can be one of the competition's best medium defenders to replace Webster - so its a high floor. IMO that's the difference between this and other hopeful mids we've acquired in the past - I think Bergman can be locked in the best 22 even if he doesn't make it as a mid

I do not think he is Patrick Dangerfield reincarnated. It was merely the first name to come to mind when I saw a clip of Bergman bursting out of a stoppage at the weekend

Now please get off my case

But no one lost the plot more than you last year with the club about HBFs hoping they can be mids

 

[HeavenlySources]

Respectfully, if the club is relying on Birdman to fix our midfield woes then we are in a far worse position than most would admit. Our only hope is to draft a gun mid either hope one is available at our pick or trade up.. we should have done it last year or the year before.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Respectfully, if the club is relying on Birdman to fix our midfield woes then we are in a far worse position than most would admit. Our only hope is to draft a gun mid either hope one is available at our pick or trade up.. we should have done it last year or the year before.

Nobody is saying anything of the sort.

No, our only hope is not to draft, we could trade.

 

[Xxxx66]

My favourite all time emoji

 

[Sainttony]

I just want to talk about Harley Reid. I watched that game on the weekend and he clearly looks like he is struggling. Absolutely shocked if he was still at the Eagles next year. He looks unfit, gassed all the time, wants to fight and scrap, reacts to the crowd. Playing on the wing, where he should be an inside mid.

With the talent he has and that the eagles are really keen to keep him I’m wondering if they just let him do what ever he wants, within reason, scared to upset him in case he cracks it and decides to go home.

He just looks as though he wants out. Pretty clear he would not choose us, more likely Geelong with the country town vibe. But I would certainly be speaking to his manager. Now I know there are other coaches that are strong characters but to my mind RTB certainly would get him playing the way we know he can.

 

[akaifu]

But no one lost the plot more than you last year with the club about HBFs hoping they can be mids

"lost the plot" lmao if that was losing the plot then what is you replying to all of my posts about Bergman 6 months later calling me clueless

 

[_Maximus_12]

Clubs been pretty good at talent ID the last 4/5 years. If they rate Bergmans potential I’ll back them in.

Harley Reid convo has to be a long game. West Coast hold the whip here and given his level of talent I suspect they hold him for another year in the hope to turn him around.
If we’re not in the race to land him now, we won’t be in it in 12 months time

 

[Saints4ever]

Remember when we tried to get Xerri
How good would he be right now.

 

[jwikked]

Clubs been pretty good at talent ID the last 4/5 years. If they rate Bergmans potential I’ll back them in.

Definitely worth remembering. Look at the players we've targeted (and missed out on) lol.

 

[Ads734]

Definitely worth remembering. Look at the players we've targeted (and missed out on) lol.

Ohh the top of my head

Degoey
Xerri
Draper
Fyfe
Peatling
Houston

 

[Grav]

Something that popped up on my feed the other day, Jevan Phillipou …

Preseason Q&A: Jevan Phillipou (Eagles)

Jevan Phillipou is looking to follow in the footsteps of elder brother Mattaes, through Woodville-West Torrens into the AFL.

central.rookieme.com

“A medium midfielder, Jevan Phillipou is capable of winning contested ball both in the air and at ground level and is a skllful kick on both feet.
He has a high workrate, allowing him to get from contest-to-contest, as well as an elite step to get him through congestion.
Phillipou made a promising start to 2025, averaging 20 disposals, five clearances and kicking three goals across his first five matches for the Eagles.
However, he broke his arm in mid-April and will be sidelined for an indefinite period.
He is the younger brother of third-year St Kilda rising star Mattaes, who was a No.10 draft pick in 2022.”

Don’t know what his draft value would be, but buy one, get one forever.

Bit of an all round athlete too

 

[HeavenlySources]

What a haul we have already in May:

Tom De Koning

21

Tom De Koning

Age

26

Ht

201cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

2star

HO

1.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

1.5

5star

, Harley Reid, Miles 'Dangerfield' Birdman, Leek Aleer, Jack Silvagni

3

Jack Silvagni

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

MG

176.9

3star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

MG

91.0

2star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

MG

131.4

3star

, Worpel and Jevan Phillipou

Lock us in for the 2026 flag

 

[hayes]

I just want to talk about Harley Reid. I watched that game on the weekend and he clearly looks like he is struggling. Absolutely shocked if he was still at the Eagles next year. He looks unfit, gassed all the time, wants to fight and scrap, reacts to the crowd. Playing on the wing, where he should be an inside mid.

With the talent he has and that the eagles are really keen to keep him I’m wondering if they just let him do what ever he wants, within reason, scared to upset him in case he cracks it and decides to go home.

He just looks as though he wants out. Pretty clear he would not choose us, more likely Geelong with the country town vibe. But I would certainly be speaking to his manager. Now I know there are other coaches that are strong characters but to my mind RTB certainly would get him playing the way we know he can.

West Coast are doing a worse job of rebuilding than we did. At least we took the early picks we just butchered them, they keep trading them away. Their rebuild will be longer than North’s IMO.

 

[botts]

West Coast are doing a worse job of rebuilding than we did. At least we took the early picks we just butchered them, they keep trading them away. Their rebuild will be longer than North’s IMO.

If they go through the without a win the afl will give them a priority pick

 

[Saints43]

You know what shits me, the press are going on about West Coast receiving a priority pick because they are so rubbish at the moment. However, people tend to forget that they won their 4th premiership in 2018 (being only 7 years ago). We haven't won a premiership since before the moon landing--how about we get a priority pick?

I've read that Stanley Kubrick filmed our premiership win in a warehouse on Horscroft Place.

 

[Diehard Saint]

If they go through the without a win the afl will give them a priority pick

Pretty sure I read somewhere that they’re putting together a request for an assistance plan from the AFL.

Do feel a little sorry for Mini though. What a poisoned chalice to inherit.

 

[gringo2011]

Yep. Dyson Sharp is sliding and he'd be perfect for our midfield

Idk whats happening with Fred Rodriguez - hes not even being mentioned for top-10 contention - but I think he'd be a great fit for us

Rory Wright as a Sandy boy also climbing up

If we finish anywhere from 10-18 then there'll be plenty of open-pool INSIDE MIDS for us to target

Rodriguez sounds ideal. He has everything we want and Garcia and Rodriguez sound like banditos together.

 

[gringo2011]

Definitely worth remembering. Look at the players we've targeted (and missed out on) lol.

To be fair they were on the radar players. Not nobodies.

 

[ScrappyDo]

You don't think Port will want a 1st rnd pick for him ?

Yes l do. Don't mean we have to stump one up though.
It's faaarrrr to early for trade talk anyway. Whats happening with NAS FFS..

 

[ScrappyDo]

We need good kicks

We really do

Pou is midfield. Nas can go in there. Imagine actually playing Owens there.

Watching us turn the ball over for over a decade had been a f'k'n nightmare.

Jsos uses the ball well. Go after him.

If Bergman's disposal is poor we don't need to be giving up first round picks for him. It'll just be same shit, different day.

We need good users.

Respectfully disagree. We have oodles of good kids already, we need good seniors.
Jsos l like but he doesn't shift the needle for us so there'd better be a larger purpose behind it. If he replaces Cordy on the list then it's good business.

 

[bakes10]

DangerBerg

 

[gringo2011]

Respectfully disagree. We have oodles of good kids already, we need good seniors.
Jsos l like but he doesn't shift the needle for us so there'd better be a larger purpose behind it. If he replaces Cordy on the list then it's good business.

I think JSOS does move the needle. We were an elite defensive side until this year. Losing Battle and having Howard go down turned our bat line into probably our most vulnerable this year. Patch that and get some midfielders back firing and we look a lot closer. Tigers went straight to a flag from where we are and they added good but not great players.

 

[Sully111]

Respectfully disagree. We have oodles of good kids already, we need good seniors.
Jsos l like but he doesn't shift the needle for us so there'd better be a larger purpose behind it. If he replaces Cordy on the list then it's good business.

I'm lost. I said good kicks... not good kids... or am I missing something mate?

 

[ScrappyDo]

I'm lost. I said good kicks... not good kids... or am I missing something mate?

Missing a bevie of top 5 draft picks me thinks.
Too soon to judge with our lot anyway. They have far too much on their shoulders for where they are in their careers.

 

[kyrgios]

Ohh the top of my head

Degoey
Xerri
Draper
Fyfe
Peatling
Houston

Ben Cousins :-(