List Mgmt. 2025 Draft/Trade/FA Thread – everything must go!

[Scythe]

Just pinning this, as per previous years. Thanks as always to Lore.

Final trade/FA period results
Out:

• Charlie Spargo
• Judd McVee
• Christian Petracca
• Clayton Oliver
• Picks 28, 42 and 61
• Melbourne Second-Rounder (2026)
• Melbourne Third-Rounder (2026)
• Melbourne Fourth-Rounder (2026)
• Melbourne Fourth-Rounder (2027)

In:

• Jack Steele
• Changkuoth Jiath
• Brody Mihocek
• Max Heath
• Oscar Berry (Rookie)
• Picks 7, 8, 37 and 71 (2025)
• GC First-Rounder (2026)
• GWS Third-Rounder (2026)
• GC Third-Rounder (2027)

 

[Topkent]

If Kozzy is stamping his feet wanting to go and Freo don't have the picks to satisfy us this is the next best thing.

I'd honestly rather keep unhappy Koz for a year aswell and hold on the market. If we were angling to spend all our picks on another 24 year old ruckman like TDK I reckon even less people would be open to this unless they see TDK as a key forward

 

[stEdy]

I'm all in on getting that dopey campaigner back to the club.

Imagine danster working across the Kozzy AND LJ threads. JACKPOT

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Maybe we tried, doubt we did. Maybe try shake someone else out of WA rather than just take what were given. Even future picks at this point would be better than going back to the well on a ruck that we don't need.

Lose: 1st round pick and Koz
Gain : Jackson and Derkson
Keep: Goodwin and Oliver
= Problems solved

 

[stEdy]

Comical that this might actually happen.

I reckon he will leave us for Brisbane or Gold Coast in a few years for some random ****en reason. He feels destined to have a bizarre career.

 

[TheBoss]

Comical that this might actually happen.

I reckon he will leave us for Brisbane or Gold Coast in a few years for some random ****en reason. He feels destined to have a bizarre career.

I think there's a good chance that he'll pull a Dan Houston on us!

 

[schmuttt]

I'd honestly rather keep unhappy Koz for a year aswell and hold on the market. If we were angling to spend all our picks on another 24 year old ruckman like TDK I reckon even less people would be open to this unless they see TDK as a key forward

I'd rather keep Kozzy too but doubt it'll happen, he seems super set on going to Freo.

 

[Dancing Potato]

Losing Pickett and gaining Jackson is a net loss for the club given our forward woes, but seems like it's destined to happen so I can't even be ****ed arguing about it at this point. What's going to happen will happen. I'm just along for the ride at this point.

 

[stEdy]

For the record I'd keep Kozzy but if he's gone then LJ > draft picks in a compromised draft

 

[Daemon]

For the record I'd keep Kozzy but if he's gone then LJ > draft picks in a compromised draft

Yeah I'm with you. The club has to be pragmatic about it if it happens. Jackson is proven, draft picks especially in weak, compromised drafts are not.

Still, I hope Kozzie stays.

 

[s_wd6]

Un *ing believable, let's trade back in that pansy arse mummas boy for all of the Koz compo, get even shitter as a team and more than likely pay him 1 million a season and watch him be average as *

At least you don't have to worry about him being a mummas boy anymore

 

[I Love Lamb]

lol @ us if we lose our only proper forward for another ruckman.

I am a Jacko fan but I am a bigger fan of kicking actual ****ing goals and nobody, I repeat nobody, on our list can actually kick them other than Kozzie.

We had 7 forwards who kicked 0 goals between them last week. How the **** are we going to bring in forward talent without picks and just another ruckman to show for it.

Knowing Goodie he will be sleuthing at the idea of another bloke he can play behind the ball at the expense of the one bloke who kicks goals on our list.

 

[Topkent]

At least you don't have to worry about him being a mummas boy anymore

Mate I wouldn't be surprised if requests a trade back to Freo in 3 years

 

[PerfectFooty]

Eh, the small part of my brain likes this. If i turn the rest of my brain off i really like this

Anyways you can't have #6 back campaigner

 

[I Love Lamb]

For the record I'd keep Kozzy but if he's gone then LJ > draft picks in a compromised draft

Disagree, we need forwards ffs. I’d rather take a punt on a couple of forwards at pick 30 and pick 40 than I would another ruckman. Didn’t you see us last weekend?

If Taylor is as good as people say he is then give him the picks to prove it for once because he isn’t proving much taking the obvious blokes in first rounders or upgrading rookies every year.

It’s been 7-8 seasons since he actually snared us a decent player in the 2nd round.

 

[I Love Lamb]

Surely we do Freo a solid and reluctantly give up Clayton Oliver

10

Clayton Oliver

Age

28

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

for Jackson.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Comical that this might actually happen.

I reckon he will leave us for Brisbane or Gold Coast in a few years for some random ****en reason. He feels destined to have a bizarre career.

Or to Tassie, such is his chaos.

 

[Topkent]

Disagree, we need forwards ffs. I’d rather take a punt on a couple of forwards at pick 30 and pick 40 than I would another ruckman. Didn’t you see us last weekend?

If Taylor is as good as people say he is then give him the picks to prove it for once because he isn’t proving much taking the obvious blokes in first rounders or upgrading rookies every year.

It’s been 7-8 seasons since he actually snared us a decent player in the 2nd round.

I'm not his biggest fan but you have to give him McVee, Chandler, Rivers as decent picks for where they were taken.
Turners more than useful.

 

[I Love Lamb]

I'm not his biggest fan but you have to give him McVee, Chandler, Rivers as decent picks for where they were taken.
Turners more than useful.

Rivers and Chandler was 2019 - 6 years ago
Mcvee 2021

So basically 1 player (Back pocket Mcvee) beyond the 2nd round in 6 years he has nailed?

He has probably ****ed up more first round picks (Jefferson, Tholstrup) than he has nailed 2nd rounders and beyond (McVee) in last 5-6 years.

I wouldn’t call that a good outcome.

Without doing the analysis I would guess that’s probably one of the worst recent records across the league over that period of time.

Even I could probably achieve that strike rate to be honest.

 

[Demon Attack]

Are we really going to have all of washed May, cooked JVR, Max, Jackson, the Magician, Full Cream, Campbell, Verrall, Kalhani White, Petty, Adams, Johnson, Kentfield, TMac on the list next year?

I ****ing love it we are unmatched. Come home Dogga.

 

[Topkent]

It’s been 7-8 seasons since he actually snared us a decent player in the 2nd round.

Rivers and Chandler was 2019 - 6 years ago
Mcvee 2021

Sure if you move the goalposts.

 

[Lampers]

Rivers and Chandler was 2019 - 6 years ago
Mcvee 2021

So basically 1 player (Back pocket Mcvee) beyond the 2nd round in 6 years he has nailed?

He has probably ****ed up more first round picks (Jefferson, Tholstrup) than he has nailed 2nd rounders and beyond (McVee) in last 5-6 years.

I wouldn’t call that a good outcome.

Without doing the analysis I would guess that’s probably one of the worst recent records across the league over that period of time.

Even I could probably achieve that strike rate to be honest.

I know you’ll never change your position on this, but the strategy has been very obvious and I think it’s sound.

A: Try whatever you can to move up to the elite end of the draft to secure what should be game winning talent. That includes using future firsts.

B: Picks 20+ are a big gamble because no lock high end talent slips that low. So use those to move up to the pointy end of the draft. Or trade them for known quantities.

C: Use the remaining picks with zero trade value and back yourself to occasionally hit on a gem. That could be an 18 year old, or a mature age from second tier comps.

Results for A: The two “busts” (awfully early to call on Tholstrup, but Jeffo is very close) were because they couldn’t get their actual prime target. They didn’t want Jefferson, they wanted Bailey Humphrey. They didn’t want Tholstrup (and Windsor), they wanted Harley Reid. Those picks were plan Bs. This approach worked a long while back with Clayton Oliver and Pickett. Looks to have worked for Xavier Lindsay too more recently.

Results for B: Lost several picks trying to trade up in the first round on missed targets, but would those picks have netted anything amazing if used? Grundy. McAdam. Melksham. Hibberd. More misses than hits in recent times, but did have some wins initially.

Results for C: McVee, Turner, Chandler, Bedford* all good but most some time ago now. Moniz-Wakefield showing promise but I’m not sold on him. Hunter, Billings haven’t worked out. This area is always going to be low return though.

I think it’s fair to say there has been less recent success with their strategy than earlier on. But which team has the better strategy? Nobody has the luxury of crystal ball hindsight as their strategy.

 

[I Love Lamb]

Sure if you move the goalposts.

I forgot about Rivers when I said 7-8 years.

Mcvee and Chandler weren’t 2nd round picks.

So one decent 2nd round pick in 7-8 years then. Big ****ing whoop. Let’s get out the crackers and party like it’s 1999.

 

[Cobbler]

Hey boys,
I’m just randomly checking back in with your threads. Been a minute.
I look forward to countless hours trawling through random posts presented as facts. Love all the speculation.
Trade period can’t get here fast enough.

 

[Topkent]

I forgot about Rivers when I said 7-8 years.

Mcvee and Chandler weren’t 2nd round picks.

right so now we're moving the goalposts to literally only count picks between 18-38 and nothing else

 

[schmuttt]

Hey boys,
I’m just randomly checking back in with your threads. Been a minute.
I look forward to countless hours trawling through random posts presented as facts. Love all the speculation.
Trade period can’t get here fast enough.

Welcome back!