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Autopsy AFL 2025 Round 12 - Eagles v Cats - Sun June 1st 7:20pm AEST/5:20pm WST (OS)

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Who will win and by how much?

  • Eagles by a goal or less

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Eagles by 7 - 20

    Votes: 1 3.3%
  • Eagles by a lot

    Votes: 5 16.7%
  • Cats by a goal or less

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cats by 7 - 20

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Cats by a lot

    Votes: 21 70.0%
  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    30
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enjoyable game, happy to give the feral WC fans some hope before crushing the light out of their eyes in the last. Probably lucky the margin was only 43, we couldn't kick straight to save our lives
Nah mate, we’re very happy with what we’ve seen tonight 👍

10 vs 7 day break played a big part in a young team not being able to run out an extremely fast paced game in the last quarter.

Taking it right up to a top 4 fancy while missing our 3 most important players at either 3rd of the ground in McGovern, Yeo and Waterman is a very encouraging sign. This would’ve been a 100 point loss last year.

Fun game to watch for all too!
 
You're using social media posts and your own hopium.

I'm using Reid's own words.
bahahaha mate, you dont need to convince me anymore. If he chooses to select WCE as his playstation gaming side, we obviously have no hope. Wells ans mackie will have to give up hope after such crushing news
 
First 3 quarters were mostly pleasing - by our admittedly rock bottom standards.
There was a lot to like, but there were also waaaaay too many (a) absolute brain-fade decisions, and (b) completely unacceptable displays of butchery of skills.
There are mistakes that are going to happen in the process of changing up the game plan to one that relies on a string of quick decisions, and you can wear those, but when you fail to execute a basic skill over & over it's pretty deflating.

4th quarter the cats woke up (somewhat ironically since it would have been pretty late on their body clocks by that point) and our brittle dam wall crumbled to bits. Credit to Geelong for that.

But at least we're showing signs of something to build on. Feels like there's a lot more light at the end of the tunnel today than there seemed a month ago. I'll take that.

Now it appears I need to catch up on some excellent playstation banter ....
 

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First 3 quarters were mostly pleasing - by our admittedly rock bottom standards.
There was a lot to like, but there were also waaaaay too many (a) absolute brain-fade decisions, and (b) completely unacceptable displays of butchery of skills.
There are mistakes that are going to happen in the process of changing up the game plan to one that relies on a string of quick decisions, and you can wear those, but when you fail to execute a basic skill over & over it's pretty deflating.

4th quarter the cats woke up (somewhat ironically since it would have been pretty late on their body clocks by that point) and our brittle dam wall crumbled to bits. Credit to Geelong for that.

But at least we're showing signs of something to build on. Feels like there's a lot more light at the end of the tunnel today than there seemed a month ago. I'll take that.

Now it appears I need to catch up on some excellent playstation banter ....

This is not a facetious question: does it get dewy at Optus?

Our handling was f**king terrible at times, your blokes looked a lot more secure at ground level just gathering the ball and I thought the skill level for a long time looked really good. Just wondered if that was a factor at all (that’s not to say your players don’t have skill, clearly there are plenty there that do)
 
This is not a facetious question: does it get dewy at Optus?

Our handling was f**king terrible at times, your blokes looked a lot more secure at ground level just gathering the ball and I thought the skill level for a long time looked really good. Just wondered if that was a factor at all (that’s not to say your players don’t have skill, clearly there are plenty there that do)

It does get very dewey & slippery in some evening games at Optus.
I wasn't getting dewey vibes at all tonight though. Was surprisingly warm too. Near perfect conditions I would have thought.
 
Eagles fans should hold their heads up after that, WC held their own for a majority of the game and the effort was there. Geelong ra away with it in the end but most would've thought they were gonna roll over the top of the Eagles early. Eagles were faster but skills won out in the end. Ginbey was good.
 
2nd and 3rd plus half of each of the others is about 3 quarters of the game :)

The third quarter where both teams kicked 2.2

So I’m going to assume at some point during that quarter you weren’t just doing as you pleased.

And probably the same when we kicked 4 goals before the halfway point of the second.
 

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What a belter of a game for 85-90%!!!

West Coast show so much fight and heart that I almost wanted them to get over the line.

Geelong had no answer to their grit and drive until they unlocked those extra couple of gears that only are accessibile through wisdom and experience. Gears that West Coast couldn’t even dream of having access to yet.

With that level of pressure, dash, confidence and drive, they’re definitely only the right track to getting there. Whether they’ll get there or not remains to be seen as there are so many factors that help determine that.

They can take a lot from that game until early in the last when Geelong really switched it up a couple of notches. Even after that they kept fighting.

Let’s be honest, both WA teams being up and about - or thereabouts - is good for footy over here. We want teams dreading coming over here every week - not just every other week. Maybe deep down I did want them to win - even if it was for selfish purposes of wanting every team to come over and play on our home deck to be dreading it!

Kudos to WCE for that effort. Was a damn enjoyable game and contest to witness until they broke it open.
 
Aside from the first 10 and the last 10 I think we were the better side

Even before the last 10 minutes of the last quarter, the FIRST ten minutes of the last quarter, you were outscored 3 goals to 1.

In the second term in the first 10 minutes you were outscored 4 goals to 1.

How much of these periods do you think you were on top for, exactly? That’s basically another quarter of the game right there.
 
Even before the last 10 minutes of the last quarter, the FIRST ten minutes of the last quarter, you were outscored 3 goals to 1.

In the second term in the first 10 minutes you were outscored 4 goals to 1.

How much of these periods do you think you were on top for, exactly? That’s basically another quarter of the game right there.
We were all over you for that period of the game pressure and ball movement wise but couldn’t make it count on the scoreboard and conceded cheap goals the other way.

Scoreboard didn’t really tell the full story aside from early on (where we arguably should have been down more) and obviously late in the 4th.
 

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Ultimately you made it count on the scoreboard more than we did but I do think we had the best of the play for the majority of the game and outran your blokes until our legs gave out
More accurately, Geelong comprehensively outplayed West Coast in the 1st and 4th quarters (21 to 7 scoring shots), while it was an arm wrestle in between.
 
More accurately, Geelong comprehensively outplayed West Coast in the 1st and 4th quarters (21 to 7 scoring shots), while it was an arm wrestle in between.
How can it have “been an arm wrestle in between” when we pegged back a 30 point margin to a goal (and a shot from 30 out that should have levelled the scores).

We were good enough to reduce the margin by 5 goals and I feel like we still left a few out there during the 2nd and 3rd quarters
 
How can it have “been an arm wrestle in between” when we pegged back a 30 point margin to a goal (and a shot from 30 out that should have levelled the scores).

We were good enough to reduce the margin by 5 goals and I feel like we still left a few out there during the 2nd and 3rd quarters
11 to 10 scoring shots West Coast's way for quarters 2+3. You're now wanting me to even chop out parts of those quarters as well?

Geelong left plenty of goals out there all night. 31 scoring shots and a few that fell just short of the goal line. Kicking accurately early would've made it a 10 goal rather than 5 goal lead.

West Coast played well but it's a bit delusional to reframe the narrative of the match as you are trying to.
 
How can it have “been an arm wrestle in between” when we pegged back a 30 point margin to a goal (and a shot from 30 out that should have levelled the scores).

We were good enough to reduce the margin by 5 goals and I feel like we still left a few out there during the 2nd and 3rd quarters

While you were excellent for a good portion of the second and third quarters and the very start of the last, this is an extremely rose coloured way to paint a lot of what happened.

Had we lost you would have earned the win but that’s what you have to do: earn it over four quarters not just a few good prolonged patches and then turn around and say ‘if you count this patch and this patch, and ignore this patch, this patch and this patch, we dominated the whole game.’

We’d had 9 scoring shots to 2 in the first quarter. So you can pretty much forget about it.

Even up to the 15 minute mark of the second term, you’d only been inside 50 five times for the quarter. So what you’re basing your idea of dominance on at that point, I’m unsure. You were outscored, and you were being dominated around the ground.

Then suddenly things started to turn. You found space, you were hitting targets, you were turning us around, and we were struggling to go with you. You were winning clearances around the ground and finding loose players everywhere and we really didn’t seem to know what to do for a while. Half time came at a good time for us.


In the first 10 minutes of the third term you only had a couple of disposals in your forward half. That translated to the scoreboard as we kicked the first few goals - and a couple of points - of the term. It looked like we might kick away.

Again you responded with two goals and a couple of behinds of your own. The last 13 minutes of the quarter were scoreless, the Cats had 6 of the last 9 inside 50s.

The last quarter saw us kick 3 of the first 4 and then the dam wall broke.

As good as the Eagles’ best footy was in this match, I don’t think the overall narrative flowed the way you described it.

And for the record I didn’t have to make any of this up - it’s taken straight from the play by play summary and stat read out on the AFL site
 
11 to 10 scoring shots West Coast's way for quarters 2+3. You're now wanting me to even chop out parts of those quarters as well?

Geelong left plenty of goals out there all night. 31 scoring shots and a few that fell just short of the goal line. Kicking accurately early would've made it a 10 goal rather than 5 goal lead.

West Coast played well but it's a bit delusional to reframe the narrative of the match as you are trying to.
My entire post made reference to the fact it wasn’t about the scoring shots. You were very efficient getting scores in that period, despite us having most of the play, whilst we weren’t.
 
While you were excellent for a good portion of the second and third quarters and the very start of the last, this is an extremely rose coloured way to paint a lot of what happened.

Had we lost you would have earned the win but that’s what you have to do: earn it over four quarters not just a few good prolonged patches and then turn around and say ‘if you count this patch and this patch, and ignore this patch, this patch and this patch, we dominated the whole game.’

We’d had 9 scoring shots to 2 in the first quarter. So you can pretty much forget about it.

Even up to the 15 minute mark of the second term, you’d only been inside 50 five times for the quarter. So what you’re basing your idea of dominance on at that point, I’m unsure. You were outscored, and you were being dominated around the ground.

Then suddenly things started to turn. You found space, you were hitting targets, you were turning us around, and we were struggling to go with you. You were winning clearances around the ground and finding loose players everywhere and we really didn’t seem to know what to do for a while. Half time came at a good time for us.


In the first 10 minutes of the third term you only had a couple of disposals in your forward half. That translated to the scoreboard as we kicked the first few goals - and a couple of points - of the term. It looked like we might kick away.

Again you responded with two goals and a couple of behinds of your own. The last 13 minutes of the quarter were scoreless, the Cats had 6 of the last 9 inside 50s.

The last quarter saw us kick 3 of the first 4 and then the dam wall broke.

As good as the Eagles’ best footy was in this match, I don’t think the overall narrative flowed the way you described it.

And for the record I didn’t have to make any of this up - it’s taken straight from the play by play summary and stat read out on the AFL site
All I’m saying is that when the game was on the line I thought we played the better footy without reward, then obviously couldn’t run the game out late.

I’m not saying we should have won, moreso that our standard of footy for most of the game was better than a top 4 side (who admittedly weren’t at their best but I think part of that was to do with our pressure on the ball).
 

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