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Lions v Crows Friday 6/6/25 Adelaide Oval 7.40pm AEST 2nd v 3rd

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Weather: Long range forecast is for showers, temperature 15 C down to 12 C, rain 90% chance with 1-10mm.

Recent History
There have been 8 encounters since the Lions became relevant in 2019.
Lions have 6 wins: 4 at The Gabba, 2 at Adelaide Oval – 1 Draw 90 all at Adelaide Oval.
Crows: 1 win at Adelaide oval – 1 Draw 90 all at Adelaide Oval.
Preseason 2025 at BHA: Crows 97 Lions 94. Both sides near full strength.
On the weekend Lions by 18 over Essendon equal 9th with one game in hand.
Crows by 90 over Swans 14th.
Both coaches have had a look at each other's side in the official preseason game.
Teams were close to full strength then, it was preseason, but still, something to work off.




Crows
The Crows recent form is good. Their best recent game form wise was a 10-point loss to the Pies at the MCG.
Then a couple of wins over easy teams in Eagles (66 points) and Swans (90).
They have quite a few avenues to goal and have posted some big scores this year, even in a few losses.
135, 161, 114, 90 (L), 100 (L), 53, 67 (L), 110, 89, 68 (L), 128, 131.
Who are the Crows main goal kickers this season after 12 rounds. Looks an even spread of smalls & talls.
Fogarty 28 (11 games), Thilthorpe 27, Rachele 20 (9), Keays 20, Walker 19 (11) Rankine 15, Neale-Bullen 11.

Lions
The Lions recent form is up and down but we sit 2nd on the ladder so all good for now.
The Essendon win was hard fought, off a 5-day break and i thought it was a good contest in slippery conditions.
That may help or not if the forecast is correct.
I thought we played well but a lot on BF saw it differently.
We have not lost an away game this year so let's hope that continues.
Don’t want a draw though, that only happen on Mother's Day anyhow.
Unlike the Crows we have only exceeded 100 points three times in 2025 being 118 v Tigers, 118 v Dogs and you guessed it 118 v Saints.

How Will Lions Get the Win
We need to get back to winning contested possessions and clearances. A no brainer but not always ease to do.
Dunkley likely has a run with role on Dawson their best midfielder and one of the best in the AFL.
If we can restrict Dawson i think our midfield should get on top.

Our defense v their forwards will be crucial for the Lions to win this game.
Would be great to restrict the Crows to a McDonalds score of 70, so no extra fries for those Crows this week.
Crows forward talls: Fogarty, Thilthorpe (F/R), Walker v Lions Andrews, Payne, Lester.
Crows smalls: Rachele, Keays, Rankine, Neale-Bullen v Lions Answerth, Zorko, Fletcher, Wilmot.
I am not sure a shootout will get us the win, so defense will be the important part of who gets the 4 premiership points.

The midfield/ruck/wing is always the point of difference in most games be it around the ground in defense or how they deliver to the forwards.
Our midfield is really the best in the competition when on song. However, they have been a little inconsistent as a group this year.
Will just have to wait to see what they produce on Friday evening.

Our forward line has been disrupted structure wise (the forward/ruck) but has done reasonably well considering.
Hopefully Charlie starts playing more consistent footy soon. Most of us have all been saying that for a while.
Good to see Lohmann kick his first of 3 goals for the season and play a solid full game.
Ah-Chee and Rayner are always a handful for opposition defenders.
Morris has been consistent but still a lot to learn as he has just turned 20.
Gardiner stays in as he is a cool experienced head around a 20-year-old and is doing his job in my opinion.
Most likely they use Hippy again in the F/R role but i would like to see Dunkley and/or Gardiner used for CBAs.
In the Hawks game we used 4 players, Hippy, Dunkley, Gardiner & Morris.
We only used 2 against the Bombers. Hippy had 17 ruck contests (5 CBAs) 2 hit outs, 1 to advantage.
Gardiner was the only other player used and had just 1 ruck contest, 1 hit out (100% ha ha), 0 to advantage.
Hippy is playing a team role, but it is hindering his forward craft at present.

Lions goalkickers after 12 rounds.
Hipwood 21, Morris 20 (11 games), Bailey 18, Ah-Chee 18, Cameron 12 (10), Rayner 11.
Note Hippy playing R/F the last 3 games and has scored 2 goals 1 behind.

Selection
The Crows played their best side bar Matt Crouch, and he has a few weeks to go yet.
Lions best 22 missing from the last game were Kiddy & Oscar, with Starcevich and Day unlikely for a few more weeks
I don’t think either team had injuries this round, the injury list comes out Tuesday evening.
Crows may have a minor change but mostly the same players that won by 90 points. Lions maybe the same side too.

Rucks: Just one of Oscar or Fort.
We are better with Oscar but who would know regarding his injury. Could easily be no ruck change again.
Sub: Maybe Will Ashcroft if Fagan wants to give him a mini break before the bye.
That would allow Doedee a best 22 spot. Or Doedee the sub, just to give him a taste of the added pace of AFL footy again.
Kiddy may or may not play i have no idea. Sub could be an option or limited time in the VFL. The club hopefully gets it right.


OUT: Dev & Fort.
IN: Oscar and Doedee.

This really is one of those 8 premiership point games being second v third.
The others this year at that time were Cats, Dogs, Pies (L), Suns & Hawks.
This will be a hard-fought game and i hope more than expect a 3-goal win.

Preview writers needed for Port and rounds 19-24.
Give it a go if you have been thinking of doing it.
 

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King still on board this week which is still a bit strange


David King​

1 - Collingwood
“I think most people have the Pies at the top.”
2 - Brisbane
3 - Geelong
4 - Adelaide

5 - Western Bulldogs

Kingy’s big call​

“If you could make a long-range, ridiculous statement - which is what we’re prone to here - I think the Grand Finalists will be Brisbane versus the winner of Collingwood and Geelong, in whichever week they play, whether it’s the first week or the third week.”
 
I don't think we'd be looked down upon for losing this week. Pretty sure the 01-03 teams never won at AO.
The way to stop the Crows is to stop their attack. Once their attack goes, their defence generally leaves a bit to be desired.

If our tall defenders stop their talls, and Answorth can stop Rankine, then we should be good.

We need to win 6 more games to guarantee a top 8 finish, anything can go from there. Still haven't played Freo, Carlton or the Swans x 2, but would be good to bank this win.
 
I don't think we'd be looked down upon for losing this week. Pretty sure the 01-03 teams never won at AO.
The way to stop the Crows is to stop their attack. Once their attack goes, their defence generally leaves a bit to be desired.

If our tall defenders stop their talls, and Answorth can stop Rankine, then we should be good.

We need to win 6 more games to guarantee a top 8 finish, anything can go from there. Still haven't played Freo, Carlton or the Swans x 2, but would be good to bank this win.
What is their defence like? All the talk is about their forwards, not much here or on their board about their backs. I wouldn't mind seeing Rayner one out in the goal square à la Dustin Martin.
 
What is their defence like? All the talk is about their forwards, not much here or on their board about their backs. I wouldn't mind seeing Rayner one out in the goal square à la Dustin Martin.

It's not bad by any measure, they're clearly doing at least an okay job, but they do leak points.

Outside of the Swans game, the last game I watched was the Showdown, and it was the usual affair, but they conceded 84 points to Port of all teams. Port barely has a forward line at the best of times, and I'm pretty sure this was a game without Rioli.

Even in some of their other wins, they give up 70-80 points. So, they might win, but it's similar to us in terms of giving up score. If they let us score 70-80 points, we will have good chance to win with our defence being our best part of the ground currently.
 
What is their defence like? All the talk is about their forwards, not much here or on their board about their backs. I wouldn't mind seeing Rayner one out in the goal square à la Dustin Martin.
Below from the weekend game.
Taken from fanfooty


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We need to win 6 more games to guarantee a top 8 finish, anything can go from there. Still haven't played Freo, Carlton or the Swans x 2, but would be good to bank this win.
You think we will need 15 wins to make top 8?
 
It's not bad by any measure, they're clearly doing at least an okay job, but they do leak points.

Outside of the Swans game, the last game I watched was the Showdown, and it was the usual affair, but they conceded 84 points to Port of all teams. Port barely has a forward line at the best of times, and I'm pretty sure this was a game without Rioli.

Even in some of their other wins, they give up 70-80 points. So, they might win, but it's similar to us in terms of giving up score. If they let us score 70-80 points, we will have good chance to win with our defence being our best part of the ground currently.
Thought I'd answer the question asked, past 7 games, Adelaide has the number 1 rated defence and for most of this season, top 1 or 2 for offence.

I'll close the door as I leave.
 
Thought I'd answer the question asked, past 7 games, Adelaide has the number 1 rated defence and for most of this season, top 1 or 2 for offence.

I'll close the door as I leave.
Yeah I thought you had leaked points early in the season but seem to have shut up shop more recently.

From my uninformed perspective Keane is very good. Michalanney is a good shut down player. Hinge is well respected around here and a good kick. And Milera can rebound well too and seems to be over his injuries. Not a huge amount of big name star power in the backline but absolutely getting the job done. Maybe short a good tall back to be absolutely top line
 
On current form, Adelaide at home have to start favourites. Got a feeling the outcome will likely to be the case.

We are capable of causing an upset. There are players on the edge of finding form, Lohmann, Ah Chee, Charlie recently kicking goals.

Hopefully the backs have been working on an answer to teams lobbing it in on top of Andrews. Negating his intercepting. Doedee could earn a sub spot here. Been enough talk about the potency of their fwds. The Crows sm/med fwds are also really good putting the pressure on defensively. The backs will have to be switched on moving the ball fwd, getting out of the back 50.

Across the ground just gotta keep the pressure up, kick straight, hand ball better, land those tackles, don't fumble, take the best option, stick to the plans, and dig in. That's all, lol. Will probably have to win the game a few times, as Fages likes to say. I hope we're up for it.
 

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You think we will need 15 wins to make top 8?

Normally you need anywhere between 12-14 in any season to make top 8. This year I think we'll need around 15 to be safe in the top 8. Would be nice not to worry about percentage.

Hopefully we win more than that and stay in top 4. Winning the granny twice from outside the 4 would be funny though.

Thought I'd answer the question asked, past 7 games, Adelaide has the number 1 rated defence and for most of this season, top 1 or 2 for offence.

I'll close the door as I leave.

Adelaide also doesn't have a great record against top 9 teams this season, as pointed out by another poster here.

Over the past 7 games, Adelaide have won against the Giants (where the Giants missed a tone of shots), lost to Freo who have been all over the place this season, won against Carlton, won against Port with no foward line, lost to Collywobble (can relate), then won against the other birds for the next two rounds.

Based on who Adelaide have played, those stats could be considered misleading, based on how these teams have performed this far into the season.

You haven't seen a lot of my posts here, I wouldn't have expected you to, but I generally comment on things I notice in games rather than rely on stats. Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong, sometimes I'm somewhere in the middle.

What I posted is what I noticed from Adelaide games.
 
Yeah I thought you had leaked points early in the season but seem to have shut up shop more recently.

From my uninformed perspective Keane is very good. Michalanney is a good shut down player. Hinge is well respected around here and a good kick. And Milera can rebound well too and seems to be over his injuries. Not a huge amount of big name star power in the backline but absolutely getting the job done. Maybe short a good tall back to be absolutely top line
Josh Worrell has had a breakout year, 195cm and Jordan Butts is 198cm. Nick Murray returns soon and he's 195cm. The smaller defenders are all around 190cm. Dan Curtin plays everywhere and he's 197cm.
I don't how that matches up with your forward line.
 
What is their defence like? All the talk is about their forwards, not much here or on their board about their backs. I wouldn't mind seeing Rayner one out in the goal square à la Dustin Martin.

They are a bit underrated in my opinion. While Mark Keane is flying the flag at the moment in Laird's absence - I really rate Worrell and Michalanney. Butts does their lockdown defender work so he's likely to go to Morris or Hipwood.

Usually Nick Murray plays that second tall key defender but he's injured now. They're managing with Keane, Worrell and Michalanney which is working for them so far. Rayner needs to bring his running boots for this one as these 3 are rebound capable.
 
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