Autopsy 2025 Rd 13 Shaky Blues Hold on to Beat Bombers

[Benaly28]

Don’t forget we still have the new guy…Flynn to come in…

Hopefully this week

Not yet but could be another debut.

 

[Benaly28]

Should be our permanent captain.

I’ll like it.

 

[ESKIE]

Agree btdg, you should have seen this complete peanut outside gate 3 at 3/4 time…absolute disgrace and embarrassment

What happened?

 

[blues4flag]

Is he a small forward? Looks more like a link player, high HF or wing or even running off HB.

That’s my early take on him

He's absolutely a high half forward. Which suits us, as we've been playing out genuine smalls as defensive half forwards.

Don't think it's a coincidence that Motlop's best game for the season coincided with Fantasia and Williams coming back into the 22.

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

Went to the game last night, and while there is a lot to work through, it reinforced to me that the #1 problem right now is still the supporters. The atmosphere was appalling and borderline toxic, and this thread more than highlights that.

I honestly think that a lot of Carlton supporters have grown to PREFER things being bad, so they can wallow and vent and that because we have struggled for so long, they are using it as a kind of whole life catharsis.

Step back for a second and separate out all the noise, and...

• we started the game in the bottom 4, having struggled all year.
• we came out of the blocks really well and smoked one of our biggest rivals (who started the game 2 wins and 5 ladder spots above us) for 6 goals to 1 in the first quarter.

You would think the 40,000-odd Carlton supporters would be up on their feet at this point. Nope... barely a smattering of applause for the goals and quarter time passed with only a ripple of excitement.

• Opposition fights back and gets back into the game. Yep, that's what happens.
• At 3/4 time the coaches make changes (McGovern to the backline the big one). We rally, kick two goals and a matchwinning lead. The crowd is... mildly interested. Essendon rally a little but it is too late - their crowd is roaring. Meanwhile we are openly trashing our own, winning players.

Don't believe me? Here is a snippet of (basically) consecutive posts from our game day thread in the last quarter of a match we won against arguably our biggest rival, when the game was on the line":
"Weitering just flipping putrid,"
"Haynes that's two goals you've given them"
"Motlop mate.You could have walked that goal in. And you shit yourself in front of goal"
"If we somehow win this game they will put it in the dictionary under "papering over the cracks"."
"We have too many momentum killers in this group."
"Mots best game this year but more broadly that miss is the symptomatic of the real issue with this team.Not seizing their moments when they must, mentally not good enough."
"2 pathetic efforts from Weitering in 30 seconds"
"Weitering is horrible tonight, burning teammates everywhere"
"how good are essendon at kicking goals. we are so pea hearted in front of the sticks"
"Costly miss by Motlop earlierHas had a good game but Too many poor kicks"
"LUCKY"
"Who said we won't trade Walsh. Re-think your strategy"
"TDK absolutely has had no presence back there. Bloody hell."
"Absolutely weak as piss. How does nobody go up there?"
"Mots you better kick another"
"Tdk is a individual. Do the basics and punch FFS"
"Sing it quietly. This is an embarrassing win against a near VFL side if it happens"

That's the vibe of the club right now. First win in a month, coming off bad form, and all anyone wants to do is trash players rant about how 'mentally weak' the team is.

They rallied, held on and won. Against Essendon on the MCG, in front of 75,000 people. Motlop played his best game for the year and was by far the best small forward on the ground. TDK was clear BOG and dominated the game. Weitering is our most reliable defender and a club leader. Walsh was the leading ball-winner on the ground and will likely get brownlow votes. Yet as we hang on to win, the ONLY posts our supporters are making are bagging them.

The vibe between us and Collingwood supporters (in particular) is SO noticeable. If Collingwood lost a lead, then kicked two goals to start the last quarter their fans would be going beserk and suck the life out of the match for the opposition.

It is just so negative, all the time. Was that our best display of football ever? Nope, not even close. Is it worth celebrating? Absolutely, 100%. Taking some actual perspective on the game:

• We won in difficult conditions against a 6-4 opponent who have been a tough beat all year
• We won despite Cripps looking off (possibly unwell?), McKay missing, and with a bunch of important players returning from injury (who all got through unscathed)
• We kicked the second highest score so far this round (in horrid wet conditions) with Curnow just no-where near his best and a bit of a makeshift lineup around him
• Our defence held up well under pressure, and showed that almost all of them can take intercept marks and defend. That's as critical as anything to getting us going again
• We got good performances from a debutant, a couple of others who debuted this year (Lord played his first full game and Carroll who is going well), and a few young guys who have been under the pump
• The coaches... actually made the changes that turned the game when we were threatened. The players... actually stepped up in the last quarter when the heat was on, rode through he pressure, opened up a match-winning lead and hung on without ever really looking like getting beaten

Our season is alive. We have two very winnable games to come, then a bunch of harder games after that that will decide the season. If we get some momentum we go into those games (against Port away, and Gold Coast home, Collingwood, etc) with some confidence and positivity who knows what happens.

But I honestly think that half the 'supporters' of the club would prefer we lost so they can get their weekly fix of venting and anger out...

Good post and I largely agree. You do make some valid points. Things are never as good, or as bad as they seem.

However those who are venting feverishly, yes and maybe I have been doing a bit as well. You have to understand, that

even though you might be doing really well in life and everything is rosy for you. Many, many other supporters are doing

it tough. So, its not just the footy, but it does go deeper imo.

 

[Soapy V]

Should be our permanent guernsey

What??? Nothing replaces our original jumper. Navy Blue and white CFC always

 

[AndyLucimitis]

What was the average games and age comparison between the sides last night.

I do think people don't realise we are playing pretty 'young' at the moment ?

 

[Soapy V]

Went to the game last night, and while there is a lot to work through, it reinforced to me that the #1 problem right now is still the supporters. The atmosphere was appalling and borderline toxic, and this thread more than highlights that.

I honestly think that a lot of Carlton supporters have grown to PREFER things being bad, so they can wallow and vent and that because we have struggled for so long, they are using it as a kind of whole life catharsis.

Step back for a second and separate out all the noise, and...

• we started the game in the bottom 4, having struggled all year.
• we came out of the blocks really well and smoked one of our biggest rivals (who started the game 2 wins and 5 ladder spots above us) for 6 goals to 1 in the first quarter.

You would think the 40,000-odd Carlton supporters would be up on their feet at this point. Nope... barely a smattering of applause for the goals and quarter time passed with only a ripple of excitement.

• Opposition fights back and gets back into the game. Yep, that's what happens.
• At 3/4 time the coaches make changes (McGovern to the backline the big one). We rally, kick two goals and a matchwinning lead. The crowd is... mildly interested. Essendon rally a little but it is too late - their crowd is roaring. Meanwhile we are openly trashing our own, winning players.

Don't believe me? Here is a snippet of (basically) consecutive posts from our game day thread in the last quarter of a match we won against arguably our biggest rival, when the game was on the line":
"Weitering just flipping putrid,"
"Haynes that's two goals you've given them"
"Motlop mate.You could have walked that goal in. And you shit yourself in front of goal"
"If we somehow win this game they will put it in the dictionary under "papering over the cracks"."
"We have too many momentum killers in this group."
"Mots best game this year but more broadly that miss is the symptomatic of the real issue with this team.Not seizing their moments when they must, mentally not good enough."
"2 pathetic efforts from Weitering in 30 seconds"
"Weitering is horrible tonight, burning teammates everywhere"
"how good are essendon at kicking goals. we are so pea hearted in front of the sticks"
"Costly miss by Motlop earlierHas had a good game but Too many poor kicks"
"LUCKY"
"Who said we won't trade Walsh. Re-think your strategy"
"TDK absolutely has had no presence back there. Bloody hell."
"Absolutely weak as piss. How does nobody go up there?"
"Mots you better kick another"
"Tdk is a individual. Do the basics and punch FFS"
"Sing it quietly. This is an embarrassing win against a near VFL side if it happens"

That's the vibe of the club right now. First win in a month, coming off bad form, and all anyone wants to do is trash players rant about how 'mentally weak' the team is.

They rallied, held on and won. Against Essendon on the MCG, in front of 75,000 people. Motlop played his best game for the year and was by far the best small forward on the ground. TDK was clear BOG and dominated the game. Weitering is our most reliable defender and a club leader. Walsh was the leading ball-winner on the ground and will likely get brownlow votes. Yet as we hang on to win, the ONLY posts our supporters are making are bagging them.

The vibe between us and Collingwood supporters (in particular) is SO noticeable. If Collingwood lost a lead, then kicked two goals to start the last quarter their fans would be going beserk and suck the life out of the match for the opposition.

It is just so negative, all the time. Was that our best display of football ever? Nope, not even close. Is it worth celebrating? Absolutely, 100%. Taking some actual perspective on the game:

• We won in difficult conditions against a 6-4 opponent who have been a tough beat all year
• We won despite Cripps looking off (possibly unwell?), McKay missing, and with a bunch of important players returning from injury (who all got through unscathed)
• We kicked the second highest score so far this round (in horrid wet conditions) with Curnow just no-where near his best and a bit of a makeshift lineup around him
• Our defence held up well under pressure, and showed that almost all of them can take intercept marks and defend. That's as critical as anything to getting us going again
• We got good performances from a debutant, a couple of others who debuted this year (Lord played his first full game and Carroll who is going well), and a few young guys who have been under the pump
• The coaches... actually made the changes that turned the game when we were threatened. The players... actually stepped up in the last quarter when the heat was on, rode through he pressure, opened up a match-winning lead and hung on without ever really looking like getting beaten

Our season is alive. We have two very winnable games to come, then a bunch of harder games after that that will decide the season. If we get some momentum we go into those games (against Port away, and Gold Coast home, Collingwood, etc) with some confidence and positivity who knows what happens.

But I honestly think that half the 'supporters' of the club would prefer we lost so they can get their weekly fix of venting and anger out...

There are always those supporters.

Makes no difference to our performance and what is happening internally

 

[Soapy V]

What was the average games and age comparison between the sides last night.

I do think people don't realise we are playing pretty 'young' at the moment ?

We are and it’s great. Credit to Coaches for giving younger players a go

 

[tarczonandjane]

Then why the **** is he playing???

just like others coming back from knee surgery over the years, coming back to form from knee issues is often a timely process that requires game time.

 

[dablues]

Unfortunately, missed most of the game but from the scoreline we each had 13 scoring shots after q1.
They kicked 10.3
Us 5.8
So, even after q1 but they were only in it bc of our poor conversion and their accuracy.

 

[Sinjin Smith]

We are an injury riddled bottom 4 team; they were sitting 10th prior to last night, and had just taken it to Brisbane at the Gabba.

Your opponents are allowed to play well, and there were some genuinely breathtaking displays of handball from them last night. The footy gods were with them, too; TDK goes by foot and belts the thing into the second row; Caddy belts it and it goes straight to ****ing Gresham, Caldwell goes off the ground inside D50 and it goes straight to an Essendon player. And at all times the ball sat up for them where it refused to for us.

Look. Lot of people beating us up after last night, and I'm kinda one of them. But we're going a little too far here.

Yeah good call. Just frustrated and a bit emotional about it. Got to vent somewhere, my wife isn't interested in my whinging.

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Went to the game last night, and while there is a lot to work through, it reinforced to me that the #1 problem right now is still the supporters. The atmosphere was appalling and borderline toxic, and this thread more than highlights that.

I honestly think that a lot of Carlton supporters have grown to PREFER things being bad, so they can wallow and vent and that because we have struggled for so long, they are using it as a kind of whole life catharsis.

Step back for a second and separate out all the noise, and...

• we started the game in the bottom 4, having struggled all year.
• we came out of the blocks really well and smoked one of our biggest rivals (who started the game 2 wins and 5 ladder spots above us) for 6 goals to 1 in the first quarter.

You would think the 40,000-odd Carlton supporters would be up on their feet at this point. Nope... barely a smattering of applause for the goals and quarter time passed with only a ripple of excitement.

• Opposition fights back and gets back into the game. Yep, that's what happens.
• At 3/4 time the coaches make changes (McGovern to the backline the big one). We rally, kick two goals and a matchwinning lead. The crowd is... mildly interested. Essendon rally a little but it is too late - their crowd is roaring. Meanwhile we are openly trashing our own, winning players.

Don't believe me? Here is a snippet of (basically) consecutive posts from our game day thread in the last quarter of a match we won against arguably our biggest rival, when the game was on the line":
"Weitering just flipping putrid,"
"Haynes that's two goals you've given them"
"Motlop mate.You could have walked that goal in. And you shit yourself in front of goal"
"If we somehow win this game they will put it in the dictionary under "papering over the cracks"."
"We have too many momentum killers in this group."
"Mots best game this year but more broadly that miss is the symptomatic of the real issue with this team.Not seizing their moments when they must, mentally not good enough."
"2 pathetic efforts from Weitering in 30 seconds"
"Weitering is horrible tonight, burning teammates everywhere"
"how good are essendon at kicking goals. we are so pea hearted in front of the sticks"
"Costly miss by Motlop earlierHas had a good game but Too many poor kicks"
"LUCKY"
"Who said we won't trade Walsh. Re-think your strategy"
"TDK absolutely has had no presence back there. Bloody hell."
"Absolutely weak as piss. How does nobody go up there?"
"Mots you better kick another"
"Tdk is a individual. Do the basics and punch FFS"
"Sing it quietly. This is an embarrassing win against a near VFL side if it happens"

That's the vibe of the club right now. First win in a month, coming off bad form, and all anyone wants to do is trash players rant about how 'mentally weak' the team is.

They rallied, held on and won. Against Essendon on the MCG, in front of 75,000 people. Motlop played his best game for the year and was by far the best small forward on the ground. TDK was clear BOG and dominated the game. Weitering is our most reliable defender and a club leader. Walsh was the leading ball-winner on the ground and will likely get brownlow votes. Yet as we hang on to win, the ONLY posts our supporters are making are bagging them.

The vibe between us and Collingwood supporters (in particular) is SO noticeable. If Collingwood lost a lead, then kicked two goals to start the last quarter their fans would be going beserk and suck the life out of the match for the opposition.

It is just so negative, all the time. Was that our best display of football ever? Nope, not even close. Is it worth celebrating? Absolutely, 100%. Taking some actual perspective on the game:

• We won in difficult conditions against a 6-4 opponent who have been a tough beat all year
• We won despite Cripps looking off (possibly unwell?), McKay missing, and with a bunch of important players returning from injury (who all got through unscathed)
• We kicked the second highest score so far this round (in horrid wet conditions) with Curnow just no-where near his best and a bit of a makeshift lineup around him
• Our defence held up well under pressure, and showed that almost all of them can take intercept marks and defend. That's as critical as anything to getting us going again
• We got good performances from a debutant, a couple of others who debuted this year (Lord played his first full game and Carroll who is going well), and a few young guys who have been under the pump
• The coaches... actually made the changes that turned the game when we were threatened. The players... actually stepped up in the last quarter when the heat was on, rode through he pressure, opened up a match-winning lead and hung on without ever really looking like getting beaten

Our season is alive. We have two very winnable games to come, then a bunch of harder games after that that will decide the season. If we get some momentum we go into those games (against Port away, and Gold Coast home, Collingwood, etc) with some confidence and positivity who knows what happens.

But I honestly think that half the 'supporters' of the club would prefer we lost so they can get their weekly fix of venting and anger out...

Great words - the first reaction from an Essendon group of mates was 'Happy with that performance - building depth at the Bombers'.

Years under Sheedy has seen the Bomber fans be almost addicted to trying to come up with green shoots but your point is well made.

It's also possibly a reason some players are looking elsewhere - who needs that shit !

 

[tarczonandjane]

In 2023 he kicked a lot of goals, so people assume he wasn’t lazy, he was the same, he doesn’t chase and hasn’t for years.

26 games in 2023 for 27 tackles

He worked up and down the ground like no one’s business in 2023. Was it lazy when he was pushing onto the wings to take grabs in the back half of that season? Was it lazy when he covered ground to take intercept marks in defensive 50 in the back half of that season? Was it lazy when he was setting up goals from precision kicks into the forward line where he was pressing so hard in that season?

Sure… he might not be a great tackler. But there are other measures on work rate. For mine, he seemed to have several of them covered in that season.

 

[btdg]

The start of the First quarter was awesome when we hit targets. By the end of the first quarter we were back to missing easy options. Could have been further in front.

After that Parish got on top in the middle and our intercept dominance subsided reducing our attacking options. Dons tightened up covering the centre of the ground.

At 3 quarter time I said the guy next to me I have seen this movie before and I didn’t like the way it ended. Surprisingly we came out and put on what turned out to be an unassailable lead. A lack of composure let the * back in. Despite losing the quarter we outplayed them and never gave them a chance to win the game.

While it was far from a good performance I was pretty happy when that siren blew. As a Carlton supporter in The 21st century, life is pretty bleak if you Can’t get enjoyment from a win over *

Happy for Mots. Hopefully he gets some confidence.

Ollie looks to be getting stronger. Looking faster and his kicking looks to have better penetration( aside from that kick to mcg)

Essendon played a zone in the first quarter. All year, we have utterly dissected opposition zones. Our vulnerability is when they go man on man around the ground, which they did from Q2 onwards. We just struggle to know who is next to lead and move then.

The positive is that almost every opposition has to go away from its standard zone and change what it does against us. If we can figure out how to play against that then we have huge upside imo

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Then why the **** is he playing???

They must figure he offers more the way he is than the alternatives. Hopefully that is regularly reviewed but we haven't really had obvious alternatives.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

If we can figure out how to play against that then we have huge upside imo

Bring on The Huddle

 

[no. 4]

The way the season is playing out I think we can lock in George Hewitt, Jack Silvagni

3

Jack Silvagni

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

MG

176.9

3star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

MG

91.0

2star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

MG

131.4

3star

and Jacob Weitering

23

Jacob Weitering

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

4.7

3star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

189.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.8

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

0.8

3star

MG

263.4

4star

for the best and fairest top three. Probably then TDK then daylight after that.

 

[kennyhunter09]

Haven't had the luxury of seeing a game live for a while.

So how lazy is Charlie? Who has watched him closely live?

Certainly appeared to be some half-arsed, jogging efforts last night via the squawk box.

It's been a characteristic of his career, so any type of mooted injury can't be used as a mitigating factor.

If the fans see it, his teammates would be even more aware of poor/non-existent second efforts.

And that ain't healthy.

 

[Garters]

The way the season is playing out I think we can lock in George Hewitt, Jack Silvagni and Jacob Weitering for the best and fairest top three. Probably then TDK then daylight after that.

Weitering long way off. Wouldn't have polled votes for weeks. Would put Haynes ahead of Weitering. Could raffle next 3 or 4

 

[Earls Smother]

Went to the game last night, and while there is a lot to work through, it reinforced to me that the #1 problem right now is still the supporters. The atmosphere was appalling and borderline toxic, and this thread more than highlights that.

I honestly think that a lot of Carlton supporters have grown to PREFER things being bad, so they can wallow and vent and that because we have struggled for so long, they are using it as a kind of whole life catharsis.

Step back for a second and separate out all the noise, and...

• we started the game in the bottom 4, having struggled all year.
• we came out of the blocks really well and smoked one of our biggest rivals (who started the game 2 wins and 5 ladder spots above us) for 6 goals to 1 in the first quarter.

You would think the 40,000-odd Carlton supporters would be up on their feet at this point. Nope... barely a smattering of applause for the goals and quarter time passed with only a ripple of excitement.

• Opposition fights back and gets back into the game. Yep, that's what happens.
• At 3/4 time the coaches make changes (McGovern to the backline the big one). We rally, kick two goals and a matchwinning lead. The crowd is... mildly interested. Essendon rally a little but it is too late - their crowd is roaring. Meanwhile we are openly trashing our own, winning players.

Don't believe me? Here is a snippet of (basically) consecutive posts from our game day thread in the last quarter of a match we won against arguably our biggest rival, when the game was on the line":
"Weitering just flipping putrid,"
"Haynes that's two goals you've given them"
"Motlop mate.You could have walked that goal in. And you shit yourself in front of goal"
"If we somehow win this game they will put it in the dictionary under "papering over the cracks"."
"We have too many momentum killers in this group."
"Mots best game this year but more broadly that miss is the symptomatic of the real issue with this team.Not seizing their moments when they must, mentally not good enough."
"2 pathetic efforts from Weitering in 30 seconds"
"Weitering is horrible tonight, burning teammates everywhere"
"how good are essendon at kicking goals. we are so pea hearted in front of the sticks"
"Costly miss by Motlop earlierHas had a good game but Too many poor kicks"
"LUCKY"
"Who said we won't trade Walsh. Re-think your strategy"
"TDK absolutely has had no presence back there. Bloody hell."
"Absolutely weak as piss. How does nobody go up there?"
"Mots you better kick another"
"Tdk is a individual. Do the basics and punch FFS"
"Sing it quietly. This is an embarrassing win against a near VFL side if it happens"

That's the vibe of the club right now. First win in a month, coming off bad form, and all anyone wants to do is trash players rant about how 'mentally weak' the team is.

They rallied, held on and won. Against Essendon on the MCG, in front of 75,000 people. Motlop played his best game for the year and was by far the best small forward on the ground. TDK was clear BOG and dominated the game. Weitering is our most reliable defender and a club leader. Walsh was the leading ball-winner on the ground and will likely get brownlow votes. Yet as we hang on to win, the ONLY posts our supporters are making are bagging them.

The vibe between us and Collingwood supporters (in particular) is SO noticeable. If Collingwood lost a lead, then kicked two goals to start the last quarter their fans would be going beserk and suck the life out of the match for the opposition.

It is just so negative, all the time. Was that our best display of football ever? Nope, not even close. Is it worth celebrating? Absolutely, 100%. Taking some actual perspective on the game:

• We won in difficult conditions against a 6-4 opponent who have been a tough beat all year
• We won despite Cripps looking off (possibly unwell?), McKay missing, and with a bunch of important players returning from injury (who all got through unscathed)
• We kicked the second highest score so far this round (in horrid wet conditions) with Curnow just no-where near his best and a bit of a makeshift lineup around him
• Our defence held up well under pressure, and showed that almost all of them can take intercept marks and defend. That's as critical as anything to getting us going again
• We got good performances from a debutant, a couple of others who debuted this year (Lord played his first full game and Carroll who is going well), and a few young guys who have been under the pump
• The coaches... actually made the changes that turned the game when we were threatened. The players... actually stepped up in the last quarter when the heat was on, rode through he pressure, opened up a match-winning lead and hung on without ever really looking like getting beaten

Our season is alive. We have two very winnable games to come, then a bunch of harder games after that that will decide the season. If we get some momentum we go into those games (against Port away, and Gold Coast home, Collingwood, etc) with some confidence and positivity who knows what happens.

But I honestly think that half the 'supporters' of the club would prefer we lost so they can get their weekly fix of venting and anger out...

Good observations. We are certainly not the supporter base we used to be. The overriding sentiment is pessimism and fear of failure, even when we are going ok. The TV cameras were focusing on our supporters late in the game.

Why is it? Is it just years of being no good? Do we feed off a playing group that lacks belief? Do they feed off us, not just at games, but general conversations throughout the week?

The finals in '23 showed that we still have it in us. Maybe leaving Princes Park has had more of an effect than any of us realise? We used to regularly experience positive passion there, and then were able to reproduce it at the 'G when they needed us. Now we just sit and wait for things to go wrong.

These days, it's like Carlton and Collingwood supporters have swapped brains (god forbid). They were terrified we'd always beat them when it mattered. I wish Julius Sumner Miller would tell us why it is so.

 

[Coops93]

Something that's been on the back of my mind for a while, years now even, is that I'm not sure Charlie Curnow

35

Charlie Curnow

Age

29

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

is actually a very good kick for goal. Imo, he's just ok, a tick above 50-50 (if that can even be considered ok).

Outside of a great accuracy yr in 2023, he's basically shot at about 55-45. We know he's a freak at that one step 60m bomb from outside 50, but if you take out those shots and play-on snaps around the body and just go off standard set shot kicking he'd be around or under 50%.

I don't find him reliable at all and get a bit nervous when he's taking set shots as I don't expect him to make it, I hope he does. I feel like he's escaped criticism of that because of the eye catching shots he does make, but he routinely misses the, well.. routine ones.

 

[skadoosh]

Something that's been on the back of my mind for a while, years now even, is that I'm not sure Charlie Curnow is actually a very good kick for goal. Imo, he's just ok, a tick above 50-50 (if that can even be considered ok).

Outside of a great accuracy yr in 2023, he's basically shot at about 55-45. We know he's a freak at that one step 60m bomb from outside 50, but if you take out those shots and play-on snaps around the body and just go off standard set shot kicking he'd be around or under 50%.

I don't find him reliable at all and get a bit nervous when he's taking set shots as I don't expect him to make it, I hope he does. I feel like he's escaped criticism of that because of the eye catching shots he does make, but he routinely misses the, well.. routine ones.

If he takes his proper time and goes back after a mark he's an above average kick.

He generally doesn't give himself the full 30 and is still high in adrenalin. Because of this he's much more prone to fully messing up the kick.

 

[GoBlues!]

The way the season is playing out I think we can lock in George Hewitt, Jack Silvagni and Jacob Weitering for the best and fairest top three. Probably then TDK then daylight after that.

Hewett leading. JSOS will up there but has missed a couple of games. Cerra will also be thereabouts.

Weiters has slipped up the last few games, will need to do better in the second half. What’s happened to Crippa ffs?

 

[AndyLucimitis]

I think I’d prefer he goes right now, we need that salary cap space more than anything to go out and fill some much needed gaps in the list. Worth more to us than the pick we’d get in return which would still be handy
The offer from the Saints makes it a no brainer, no way he’ll stay unless we offer 1.2 per year minimum which is far too much for a ruckman that doesn’t have the required consistent output that money demands

I didn't realise - he has only played 89 games (or thereabouts) in 7 years.