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Autopsy AFL 2025 Round 13 - Demons v Pies Mon June 9th 3:20pm AEST (MCG)

Who will win and by how much?

  • Demons by a goal or less

    Votes: 2 5.6%
  • Demons by 7 - 20

    Votes: 2 5.6%
  • Demons by a lot

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pies by a goal or less

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pies by 7 - 20

    Votes: 8 22.2%
  • Pies by a lot

    Votes: 24 66.7%
  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    36
  • Poll closed .

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Not as overrated as the Western Pups - 2 weeks ago they were being talked up as the best team in it. Now they'll be lucky to make the finals.

You guys nearly beat Collingwood minus Bont.. and that game was an actual farce when it came to one sided umpiring... Not today.
 

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Get a semi competent umpiring line up and a team with a half decent KPF and Pies will go down like a bag of spuds come finals time.

Unimpressed Spongebob Squarepants GIF
 
I actually agree with you, I just know Goodwin will not have the clout to actually do anything. He might call it at year end anyway, we probably need to shift out a few now and go back to youth. It’s a sad story since 2021.

It can turn quickly when you make the call though and commit to good influences who want to be there. Already have a surprising amount of good young players coming through.
 
Trust me I hated watching Liverpool wrap up the PL title in 2020, even though they'd established a massive lead when the world was pre-pandemic. Take out that section of the season and the feeling would've been even more hollow.

I'm not talking about validity in a sporting competition sense. Just the care factor and that competitions world wide through that era felt like something from outer space. You would have taken a '19 or '22 flag over the seasons in between any day of the week.

The fact that Melbourne have crumbled so badly since big games and crowds returned to the home of football, has reflected poorly on the squad's legacy. They proved they could only win a Perth pandemic cup. Fumbling and bumbling away so many games since at the G when the heat is really on.
The reason we didn’t win more post 2021 had nothing to do with the G. We had major scoring inefficiencies and had a dysfunctional forward line that we never really addressed. I’d accept 2022 as being the wake up call, but 2023 nothing changed and we still finished top 4 post home and away. We had no issue winning ball and going into 50, we had big issues with good disposal and conversion.
 
Gawn was fantastic.

Just made a blunder at the end.
He was good. But just like all the other Melbourne leaders his ball use is terrible. He kicks the ball way too often as most are a blind hack forward
 
It can turn quickly when you make the call though and commit to good influences who want to be there. Already have a surprising amount of good young players coming through.
Simon Goodwin is a huge issue. I love Gawn but don’t reckon he is a great captain. The Melksham May incident should’ve been handled better and allowing May as much pull as he has had is disappointing.
 

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You guys nearly beat Collingwood minus Bont.. and that game was an actual farce when it came to one sided umpiring... Not today.

Nearly isn’t good enough
 
People arguing about Gawn whilst Christian Petracca was absolutely woeful and ruined every opportunity we had to score.
 
The reason we didn’t win more post 2021 had nothing to do with the G. We had major scoring inefficiencies and had a dysfunctional forward line that we never really addressed. I’d accept 2022 as being the wake up call, but 2023 nothing changed and we still finished top 4 post home and away. We had no issue winning ball and going into 50, we had big issues with good disposal and conversion.
I'm talking about big games with hot crowds. Melbourne's ball use or forward line was never immaculate, but seemed to suit the more mild or non existent crowds of 2021. Less panicky mistakes and turnovers.

Crowds do help generate real and perceived pressure - none more so than a packed G or when you're at an opposition's home ground (neither occurred in the 2021 finals series).

I don't expect you to agree but in my opinion Melbourne have been found out as a mentally weak side without sufficient skills and decision making since football returned to normality (2022).
 

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Steven May just embodies why Melbourne can't succeed.

Zero commitment to being an elite team mate
 
How may goals did Melbourne score From no freekick involvement in the play or a missed free kick?? 2 or 3 max
I never understand this argument. If a goal comes from a clear free kick why is that any less worthy than any other goal? It's only when the free kick is unwarranted where the issues arise
 

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Autopsy AFL 2025 Round 13 - Demons v Pies Mon June 9th 3:20pm AEST (MCG)

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