Geelong rorting the system

[PhatBoy]

You've been worst on ground in every main board thread relating to Richmond for at least 5 consecutive years.

Sure I have. I post relentlessly in the Tigers rebuild thread, the who is better out of the Tigers/North/Eagles thread, the rebuild of west coast and Richmond thread future prospects thread, the Richmond under Adam Yze thread, the Which list would you want - North, Eagles or Richmond thread. 15 posts across all of them and 9 of them were on one thread - about 3 teams

Two of them I didn’t post on at all.

Yeah I just can’t stay away.

Yet you’re in here on a Geelong specific thread -86 times, mind you - telling anyone who’ll listen how obsessed other people are with the Tigers

 

[The Casey Cat]

Sure I have. I post relentlessly in the Tigers rebuild thread, the who is better out of the Tigers/North/Eagles thread, the rebuild of west coast and Richmond thread future prospects thread, the Richmond under Adam Yze thread, the Which list would you want - North, Eagles or Richmond thread. 15 posts across all of them and 9 of them were on one thread - about 3 teams

Two of them I didn’t post on at all.

Yeah I just can’t stay away.

Yet you’re in here on a Geelong specific thread telling anyone who’ll listen how obsessed other people are with the Tigers

Pretty sure you also haven't had fellow club supporters step in and tell you to get a grip and stop posting nonsense as has happened with our friend MR here. Seen this at least once, somewhat relieved to see not all Tigers supporters are such ignorant, deluded flogs.

 

[PhatBoy]

Pretty sure you haven't had your own club's supporters step in and tell you to get a grip and stop posting nonsense as has happened with our friend MR here. Seen this at least once, somewhat relieved to see not all Tigers supporters are such ignorant, deluded flogs.

Oh there’s no doubt there’s some normal ones. Who don’t post in a single Cats specific thread 86 times and then tell a Cats fan he’s so obsessed with the Tigers for posting 15 times across five or six Tigers threads on the main board

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Lol you simply make one well observed post about the Cats and the thread becomes all about you as a dozen triggered Cats supporters forget about the topic and play the man instead. Marvellous to observe the response, like putting a stick into an open clam, BANG!

 

[PhatBoy]

Lol you simply make one well observed post about the Cats and the thread becomes all about you as a dozen triggered Cats supporters forget about the topic and play the man instead. Marvellous to observe the response, like putting a stick into an open clam, BANG!

Yes yes you make a lot of very well observed posts. 87 of them now

You haven’t made a logical post yet, why start now

 

[The Casey Cat]

Lol you simply make one well observed post about the Cats and the thread becomes all about you as a dozen triggered Cats supporters forget about the topic and play the man instead. Marvellous to observe the response, like putting a stick into an open clam, BANG!

Ah yes a 'well observed post'. Just as well we have you (again who's own supporters have had to tell them to stfu) to be the judge of that.

 

[Mr Meow]

Lol you simply make one well observed post about the Cats and the thread becomes all about you as a dozen triggered Cats supporters forget about the topic and play the man instead. Marvellous to observe the response, like putting a stick into an open clam, BANG!

Translation:

"I'm crying because people are mocking and teasing me about my pathetic Geelong/CFL campaigning. Let's see if I can twist it so that I am the master puppeteer, ultimate truth teller and breaker of Geelong supporter hearts!"

 

[bigfarter]

Hey, remember a week or so ago when I quite earnestly asked anybody who had evidence to provide it in support of their rort claims? Didn’t get any responses to that, did I? LOL.

 

[PhatBoy]

Hey, remember a week or so ago when I quite earnestly asked anybody who had evidence to provide it in support of their rort claims? Didn’t get any responses to that, did I? LOL.

technically you did.

I mean, having a geographical location on planet earth is evidence as we know

 

[Black Haze]

Premierships involve a lot of luck. The better measure of how good a team is winning percentage. Or even simply percentage. But there is no theater in that so we mistakenly regard premierships instead.

Do you think Geelong have been more successful than Penrith?

Remember, the discussion was regarding whether or not Geelong are the most successful sporting club in Australia.

 

[PhatBoy]

Do you think Geelong have been more successful than Penrith?

Remember, the discussion was regarding whether or not Geelong are the most successful sporting club in Australia.

Penrith of 2020-2024 are the greatest NRL side I and probably most people 45 or younger have seen and anyone who says otherwise is romanticising the past. The Brisbane and Raiders sides of the 90s and some of the Storm teams would compete with them but there has never been a more complete winning machine over an extended period, or a better team at strangling the life out of everyone they played.

They had a record of 108-23-1 during that period, a win percentage of 82. And they’ve done it in a lower scoring game than AFL - the lower scoring the sport, the greater the chance of a random upset, as a general rule of thumb. Plus they have had years of losing players to other teams, and years of playing a couple of matches per season with 4-6 players unavailable for state of origin.

During our peak of 2007-11 we matched that yes - we won at 84 per cent, 105 wins from 125 matches, one less title of course.

But in recent times we’ve been nowhere near as good as them and obviously don’t have anything like the silverware to show it either.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Penrith of 2020-2024 are the greatest NRL side I and probably most people 45 or younger have seen and anyone who says otherwise is romanticising the past. The Brisbane and Raiders sides of the 90s and some of the Storm teams would compete with them but there has never been a more complete winning machine over an extended period, or a better team at strangling the life out of everyone they played.

They had a record of 108-23-1 during that period, a win percentage of 82. And they’ve done it in a lower scoring game than AFL - the lower scoring the sport, the greater the chance of a random upset, as a general rule of thumb. Plus they have had years of losing players to other teams, and years of playing a couple of matches per season with 4-6 players unavailable for state of origin.

During our peak of 2007-11 we matched that yes - we won at 84 per cent, 105 wins from 125 matches, one less title of course.

But in recent times we’ve been nowhere near as good as them and obviously don’t have anything like the silverware to show it either.

No. Just no.

 

[PhatBoy]

No. Just no.

Stiff shit, it’s the truth.

 

[captain bloodsport]

Stiff shit, it’s the truth.

They've won 4 premierships in a row, Geelong won 1 in a row

 

[PhatBoy]

They've won 4 premierships in a row, Geelong won 1 in a row

Gee, and you wonder why I said they are the most dominant side I’ve ever seen

 

[captain bloodsport]

Gee, and you wonder why I said they are the most dominant side I’ve ever seen

No i was wondering why you compared the 2

 

[PhatBoy]

No i was wondering why you compared the 2

Yeah it was a bizarre way for me to respond to a post asking ‘do you regard Geelong as more successful than Penrith.’

I should have compared Annandale to Fitzroy

 

[captain bloodsport]

Yeah it was a bizarre way for me to respond to a post asking ‘do you regard Geelong as more successful than Penrith.’

I should have compared Annandale to Fitzroy

Haha oh my, do I have egg on my face.

Do you think that Geelong team is the best of the AFL era?

 

[PhatBoy]

Haha oh my, do I have egg on my face.

Do you think that Geelong team is the best of the AFL era?

I think there’s arguments you can make a few ways. People always like to argue achievement vs quality: so they will look at ‘consecutivity’ and the Cats will get marked down. They can say that, it’s fine. Doesn’t mean that if the best Cats team of 07-11 took on the best Lions team or best Hawks team or best Tigers team, that the result would go a certain way.

It isn’t as though Ablett Jr would go to win a contested ball at a clearance and suddenly go ‘oh dear our flags weren’t consecutive. Better let Simon Black win this one.’

So I don’t subscribe to that theory when you’re trying to work out who the ‘best’ was.

I think all of them had their strengths and (relative) weaknesses and I think all of them could find a way to pinch ‘a game’ off the others.
If they all had to play one another multiple times I think it would be either us or Brisbane as the best I’ve seen, I think it’s fair that people rate that Lions team as high as they do and they were obviously one of the best big game teams ever but they were also beatable.

And given that an extremely young version of our side nearly toppled them in 04 think we could match them at our peak. We were certainly the most dominant side over an extended period.

 

[captain bloodsport]

I think there’s arguments you can make a few ways. People always like to argue achievement vs quality: so they will look at ‘consecutivity’ and the Cats will get marked down. They can say that, it’s fine. Doesn’t mean that if the best Cats team of 07-11 took on the best Lions team or best Hawks team or best Tigers team, that the result would go a certain way.

It isn’t as though Ablett Jr would go to win a contested ball at a clearance and suddenly go ‘oh dear our flags weren’t consecutive. Better let Simon Black win this one.’

So I don’t subscribe to that theory when you’re trying to work out who the ‘best’ was.

I think all of them had their strengths and (relative) weaknesses and I think all of them could find a way to pinch ‘a game’ off the others.
If they all had to play one another multiple times I think it would be either us or Brisbane as the best I’ve seen, I think it’s fair that people rate that Lions team as high as they do and they were obviously one of the best big game teams ever but they were also beatable.

And given that an extremely young version of our side nearly toppled them in 04 think we could match them at our peak. We were certainly the most dominant side over an extended period.

Fair enough, valid arguments made.
I'd go Brisbane and hawks over Geelong.

 

[PhatBoy]

Fair enough, valid arguments made.
I'd go Brisbane and hawks over Geelong.

Everyone has their reasons. They were all great sides. I think for the first couple of seasons we probably had a slight weakness as far as key forwards go compared to all 3 of the others - Mooney and Nathan Ablett initially (though he would have gone on to be a gun) and then Mooney and 09 Hawkins weren’t anything extraordinary. But Podsiadly and 11 Hawkins were - by the end of the 2011 grand final - bloody good.

Overall though not in the same league as Franklin/Roughead, Lynch/Bradshaw/early Brown, and Riewoldt/Lynch.

Across the rest of the field though I think we probably tip the scales a bit. Anyway, everyone has their view on it which is fair enough

 

[Elixuh]

 

[Mr Meow]

You're slower than Fages with finding that one.

 

[Xtreme]

Should take Cotton On away as a sponsor and give them The Reject Shop instead!

 

[Elixuh]

You're slower than Fages with finding that one.

Never forget grandpa Fages beat master tactician Chris Scott in a PF