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Autopsy AFL 2025 Round 15 - Cats v Lions Fri June 20th 7:40pm AEST (GMHBA)

Who will win and by how much?

  • Cats by a goal or less

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • Cats by 7 - 20

    Votes: 19 24.7%
  • Cats by a lot

    Votes: 17 22.1%
  • Lions by a goal or less

    Votes: 7 9.1%
  • Lions by 7 - 20

    Votes: 8 10.4%
  • Lions by a lot

    Votes: 24 31.2%
  • Draw

    Votes: 1 1.3%

  • Total voters
    77

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You are one of the more prominent ones yes? Scott is a great coach, he gets the most out of the least.
Anyone with two eyes and a brain can see that. They aren’t rife with top pick players, they have to make do with what they can get.
They don’t get years of suckage and compensation picks and academy players to help prop them up.
And no they aren’t the most successful or brilliant club, they are a great club but that doesn’t make them better than everyone else. What people marvel at is their consistency to be competitive every year, if you can’t comprehend that then it’s on you.
You cherry picking what one person says and tarring everyone with the same brush is just dumb, like extremely dumb.

The “rort” jokes are mocking people who say dumb shit in the first place, you say dumb shit you’re rightfully going to be called on it as would anyone who does so.
How could you or anyone who could figure basic numbers honestly look at the Cats team and look at the Lions side and think Geelong is the one “rorting the salary cap”
Lions have lost one player in a 5 year period worth anything of value and Geelong is the one cheating after nearly completely flipping their side since 2022?
Make it make sense!

Your attitude is trash, been pretty quiet for the last month and you Bob up when the Lions play well.
Embarrassing, zero humility.
What
 
Lions bossed it when cats had top spot for the taking…. Cut us up through the middle and exposed a continuation of defenders not being anywhere near their opponent in transition….. woods & lions clear top 2….not much from our wing/ half forwards last night either. Dempsey, Mannagh, Miers and co well contained. Disappointing night for Paddy’s 350.
 
Lions bossed it when cats had top spot for the taking…. Cut us up through the middle and exposed a continuation of defenders not being anywhere near their opponent in transition….. woods & lions clear top 2….not much from our wing/ half forwards last night either. Dempsey, Mannagh, Miers and co well contained. Disappointing night for Paddy’s 350.
Lions were very good last night and way too good for us, but long way to go yet. We were ordinary. Pretty sure we can play a fair bit better than that. Might not be enough to beat them, but we will see.
 

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Umpiring had zero impact on the result. Probably focus on conversion (6.15) and only 3 tackles inside 50. They were completely off last night and didn’t honour one of their all time greats.

Huh?? Are you okay?
 
it was sort of nice to see Bailey Smith getting frustrated because he wasn't getting the cheap 1-2 handballs. He had to sprint his butt off to get his uncontested marks deep in the back pocket to get his numbers up.

Did you see Rayner?
 
Not necessarily a bad thing, means the game is a broad church

His effort levels just exhaust any chance for the finer skills esp in big games
You can also refer to his goal kicking before last night, which was a respectable 19.11. Shit happens. We had 12 blokes who couldn't kick the ball last night.
 
There's levels to this and Brisbane showed Geelong what Premiership levels are all about. It was a good old fashioned beat down.
 
Hope the boys enjoyed the week of drinking their own bathwater and getting (expletive deleted) by the media. Absolutely destroyed by the Lions on the ground, we barely got a decent clean chain of possessions going from defence to attack all night, while Brisbane were doing them at will.

Start of the fourth quarter was a good encapsulation of the game: Geelong won the centre clearance, moved it forward with solid defensive pressure from the Lions, a hopeful high shallow entry to a contest, where the Geelong target falls over and Brisbane smashes the ball back out of the zone. Brisbane win it on the ground and with three quick handballs and kicks get it to a forward (Rayner) with a seconds break on his man. The Brisbane forward has a challenging shot, which he converts.

Geelong had some bad misses, but I'd say the respective accuracy from both teams was a by-product of Geelong's being half chances under pressure, while the Lions practically walked most of theirs in. Apart from a couple of Rayner's long goals, I thought most of Brisbane's were pretty regulation.

Well done Brisbane. I guess the only thing for me to be happy about was I was half expecting Bailey Smith to get reported in the last quarter with the frustration that was creeping in across the team. But that's a huge reality check.
On your third paragraph unfortunately it isn't true. Geelong kicked 3.11 from set shots - most of them basic ones - and underperformed their expected score by 40 points. From memory that's the biggest discrepancy this season.

Still, it wasn't surprising because the field kicking was also shocking.
 
Geelong will not make it through to a grand final because of the weak midfield.
In that case can we swap your Cameron for our Cameron please? Charlie only a shadow of former self..

If Jezza not needed for your finals we could use him to smack the Pies in the Final ;) :brisbane:
 
Bad kicking was not our issue last night.
Brisbane's midfield completely destroyed them and gave their team first use. Even Darcy Fort managed 4 clearances and beat Stanley in the ruck.

Geelong will not make it through to a grand final because of the weak midfield.

Geelong where -36 points last night based on expected score from their shots. I think that's the worst differential all season.

Brisbane were -26 against Adelaide two weeks ago.
 

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Sorry but your mob won't get near Collingwood either.

Only one stand out team this team.
Well they got near them 2023 when only headed off last 5 minutes with a Berry Clanger in the GF.

last GF ,9 Months ago Lions kicked Sydney all the way back to the harbour bridge so dramatically, they had to sack the coach.

There is a Stand out team :brisbane: , and it's not the Pies. well not yet anyway, we'll see in September :)
 
Well they got near them 2023 when only headed off last 5 minutes with a Berry Clanger in the GF.

last GF ,9 Months ago Lions kicked Sydney all the way back to the harbour bridge so dramatically, they had to sack the coach.

There is a Stand out team :brisbane: , and it's not the Pies. well not yet anyway, we'll see in September :)

Cats already broke them two years earlier?

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On your third paragraph unfortunately it isn't true. Geelong kicked 3.11 from set shots - most of them basic ones - and underperformed their expected score by 40 points. From memory that's the biggest discrepancy this season.

Still, it wasn't surprising because the field kicking was also shocking.

To me that's an indictment on the 'expected score' stat, one they'd probably be eager to swep under the rug.

Maybe it was just because of how much the sting was out of the game (unsusual for a Geelong game it has to be said), but the first Martin miss for me was probably the egregious, Shaun Higgins memorial veteran "if you aren't converting those chances in your sleep, you can't take a spot in our senior side." Then maybe the Miers miss and Neale's final chance that you'd expect them to kick, more often than not. Dangerfield's snaps from 25-30m out on the angle: yeah Morris had no trouble at the other end, but Danger... we love him, but we all close our eyes every time and hope he converts that shot maybe one of three times.
 
To me that's an indictment on the 'expected score stat', one they'd probably be eager to swep under the rug.

Maybe it was just because of how much the sting was out of the game, but the first Martin miss for me was probably the egregious, Shaun Higgins memorial veteran "if you aren't converting those chances in your sleep, you can't take a spot in our senior side." Then maybe the Miers miss and Neale's final chance that you'd expect them to kick, more often than not. Dangerfield's snaps from 25-30m out on the angle: yeah Morris had no trouble at the other end, but Danger... we love him, but we all close our eyes every time and hope he converts that shot maybe one of three times.
Expected score's main flaw is that in the real world, if a behind becomes a goal the ball goes back to the middle and every event changes.

But as far as actually measuring how a side performs on its shots based on degree of difficulty, it is accurate.

We had 17 set shots. Not all of them were easy, but a sizeable bunch were. Then you have a handful of 50/50s or 60/40s. Then a bunch where you might only kick a couple of goals from. We kicked 3.11, 2x out on the fulls and 1 that didn't make the distance. That is incredible underperformance.

Dangerfield kicks 19.11 heading into last night and then goes 0.3 with an out on the full from 4 shots. Just one of those nights.
 

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