Autopsy 2025 Late flourish doesn't mask embarrassment

[myblueroan]

Targetting Kids instead of senior players

Voss did the same at Brisbane, and led to the walking for the famous 5. He has to go.

Inept

Had thought he was aiming at George and couldn't believehe'd do that.

MAybe he eyeballed all the players. We wouldn't know.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Look, if the club doesn't swing the axe at selection this week, I'm seriously questioning whether I'll renew my membership next year.

Some of the senior players' efforts today were an absolute disgrace for AFL footballers. The kind of mistakes that would see a kid sent straight back to the VFL with a "sort this out if you want to play seniors" warning.

If we cop a 100-point belting because of it, don't pin it on the youngsters. Point the finger at the senior players who deserved to be dropped.

Cerra butchered the ball going forward nearly every time, showed zero defensive effort, and probably cost us four goals single-handedly.

Saad's lack of effort, especially in the second quarter, was blatant. One goal in particular had him standing there, hands on hips, not bothering to help when it was his turn to step up.

At the very least, those two need to make way for Wilson and Ben Camporeale.

I said it in the game thread, but we didn't lose today because of what the kids couldn't do. That's way too easy and a complete cop-out.

The season's gone. It's time to start building for 2026. Enough of the veterans' half-hearted efforts. We need proper accountability now.

If this group actually cares about winning, they need to stop blaming everyone else and own their actions. It starts at selection. Make the hard calls now, and it'll make the next ones easier.

OUT: Cripps, Charlie, Saad, Cerra, Weitering, Doc

IN: BenC, Lemmey, Wilson, HOF, Boyd, Cowan. Throw Lord in the center not the wing.

 

[ForeverForward]

Have you enjoyed following a team that plays arguably the dullest brand of football in the league?

Do you enjoy continuing bagging a team you supposedly support? It seems you do

 

[DirtyLeeds]

First time since the Collingwood game when McGuane did his running thing that I have left a game before the final siren. Soulless effort, lots of unhappy baggers on the tram stops, calling for Voss's head, trading Charlie and Harry, not trying to retain TDK, selling the farm, sinking the boat, burning the bridges and selling the children......

 

[ForeverForward]

First time since the Collingwood game when McGuane did his running thing that I have left a game before the final siren. Soulless effort, lots of unhappy baggers on the tram stops, calling for Voss's head, trading Charlie and Harry, not trying to retain TDK, selling the farm, sinking the boat, burning the bridges and selling the children......

Thank God, I thought they would be angry

 

[TwiggleyFanClub]

The spray Voss allegedly gave binns for not following the plan

Hang on, so the rest of them were following his plan??

 

[TwiggleyFanClub]

OUT: Cripps, Charlie, Saad, Cerra, Weitering, Doc

IN: BenC, Lemmey, Wilson, HOF, Boyd, Cowan. Throw Lord in the center not the wing.

Voss is coaching for his job now more than ever. Even if he was the type to play youth over the same old people, he sure as hell isn’t doing it now.

 

[CCurnow3picks]

This is the sort of listless performance that historically has directly lead to the sacking of the coach after the game. Pagan after the Brisbane game in 2007, Ratten after the Gold Coast game in 2012, Malthouse after the Geelong game in 2015, Bolton after the Essendon game in 2019. It has that air of inevitability about it.

The next decision, one way or the other may have huge ramifications for the club.

I’m glad we have Cook & Wright overseeing what happens next.

 

[CCurnow3picks]

First time since the Collingwood game when McGuane did his running thing that I have left a game before the final siren. Soulless effort, lots of unhappy baggers on the tram stops, calling for Voss's head, trading Charlie and Harry, not trying to retain TDK, selling the farm, sinking the boat, burning the bridges and selling the children......

Selling the children?

 

[jpfalvo]

The next decision, one way or the other may have huge ramifications for the club.

I’m glad we have Cook & Wright overseeing what happens next.

Im sorry outside of improving his super balance what has Cook done in 4years to warrant any confidence towards the football department

 

[CCurnow3picks]

Yeap …and Binns nodded yes

Was it his roll to miss targets by hand & foot, miss tackles & turn the ball over repeatedly?

If so, he did his job brilliantly.

 

[Osc1]

Yeap …and Binns nodded yes

Others were nodding too. Like George and Cerra. It was to Binns and the whole group too.

 

[CCurnow3picks]

Why would TDK stay now?


Bottom club or bottom club you take the one that offers a lot more $$

We are the Mt Dandenong of middling clubs.

Saints are Everest.

 

[viking12]

We have wasted this list and rebuild

I don’t the club will ever assemble a list like this again with the spine we have

We may need to look at trading a star player for top 10 picks and refresh the list

List management and recruiting team need an overhaul

 

[TENACIOUS]

I thought.. Voss’s press conference, was one of his better ones..

Journos were asking tougher questions, which was good.. They are starting to smell blood.

 

[BeijingBlue]

So, the question is "What happens now?" Plenty of supporters seem to know what should or could happen. Clearly the on and off field environment is broken. On field performance is a reflection of off field performance. Will we see the ruthless version? Is Wright the rightman to bring this club to a place where we are respected. We are not respected as a club right now. Aswas mentioned in the media Carlton is feared by no one.

 

[DirtyLeeds]

Selling the children?

Think Jake from the Blues Brothers....."how much for your wife, or the little girl?"

 

[BlueTongue]

We’re going bad when our captain Cripps has polled only 2 votes in the above poll….and they both look like non-Carlton supporters.!!

Was the most selfish, non-leader type performance I’ve seen him put in. Yes, we owe him a lot, but he is still the Captain, and his effort today was anything but a leader. Burning teammates in an open goal trying to snag it himself while under pressure, trying to break every single tackle (and failing) when he was well outnumbered, instead of giving it off to the first option. Again, it was our ‘leaders’ that let us down today, NOT the young blokes like Binns, Carrol & Lord. Ollie turned over a couple of howlers today but I think it was more because he was trying to create, spark us into action. I thought he was our best today. Did not stop trying all day when our leaders were busy sooking it up.

 

[Soapy V]

We have wasted this list and rebuild

I don’t the club will ever assemble a list like this again with the spine we have

We may need to look at trading a star player for top 10 picks and refresh the list

List management and recruiting team need an overhaul

A lot of people see it this way. I don’t

I believe it can change quickly if done right. It will take some smart tough calls

We have a good core, some real talent coming through.

Get a good game plan and drilled structure in place and things can change very very quickly

 

[GenYBlue]

We are the Mt Dandenong of middling clubs.

Saints are Everest.

Saints have technically played in 3 Grand Finals this century... we haven't managed 1

 

[CCurnow3picks]

Think Jake from the Blues Brothers....."how much for your wife, or the little girl?"

Haha! Sounds like a must watch

 

[Michael Jezz]

Saints have technically played in 3 Grand Finals this century... we haven't managed 1

We are the Greece of the AFL. Once were an empire now just a few old stones.

 

[bigm386]

We have wasted this list and rebuild

I don’t the club will ever assemble a list like this again with the spine we have

We may need to look at trading a star player for top 10 picks and refresh the list

List management and recruiting team need an overhaul

I don't think so we have wasted this year. Issues were obvious in 24 and we made no changes even to assistants.

Therefore we will probably waste next year teaching a style that isn't absolutely putrid. The list isn't old and we have talent coming through

 

[BlueVision]

This is not sustainable, the club is at a crossroads.

The blame isn't on the coach or the players alone but shared, along with the football administration.

We need change and 'just' sacking the coach isn't it.

IMHO, I think it's about time the club stopped worrying so much about all the non-football activities and concentrate on winning games a football.

 

[TheReal99prelim]

Its not about Voss…It’s about the fact that some senior players just “dgaf”

They weren’t interested in generating energy…everyone is in self preservation mode. They know the season is done…they want to coach done while there at it

Yeah so it is about VOss.
Why doesn't Voss drop them to the reserves if they dgaf?????
Instead, bully boy Voss picks on Binns
Voss can FRO out of Carlton