Autopsy Roast and Toast v Essendon & Changes For WCE

[SunshineBoy]

the essendon fans have completely swallowed the propaganda that they are a young rebuilding side in the same rebuilding timeframe as us

I have a bridge to sell them

Is it across the maribynong?

 

[Muddiemoose]

It’s actually 2 off seasons the , if you count the new cubs it’s only one off season which is the same every season , stop making excuses about timing , we have yet to hit 100 points and the talk is if we don’t hit 80 points we lose, last night being the exception, the game plan , if there is one is not sustainable , you can’t go two quarters every game without kicking a goal and be happy as a supporter, player, coach , our game plan is utter garbage , some one called me our=t when I said all our players were at some stage elite , they are deemed the best if they are drafted, they don’t suddenly all become duds

This is primarily down to the coaching/coaches , they don’t forget how to kick, they don’t forget how to hand pass , and occasionally we see that they haven’t .

The coaches at the elite level are there to set the style of game and to motivate , certainly in the elite level that I was involved in , I didn’t need to teach my players how to kick or pass but to implement a game style that suited their skill sets.

Ouzo hasn’t or can’t do this , why are other first year draftees picked up later in the draft performing to a game style?

I don’t know what they do at training but it certainly not game style/plan and if it is we are heads towards the worst team since Fitzroy if we aren’t already there.

I know it’s not the done thing to say **** we screwed the pooch with our selection of coach , but sinetimes you got to bite the bullet .

Hardwick in his first year showed improvement in our game style with “the worst team since Fitzroy “ this muppet is going backwards at an alarming rate

Cattle matters

Hardwick had a lot better options when he took over especially in terms of a mix of senior bodies across all lines

Our forward line right now has the age profile of vic metro for the tac cup

Mansell is the only player over 50 games

Our two main keys are first year players and they are the two most important players in terms of forward line structure that the mediums and smalls structure around

If they aren’t in the right position the whole structure fails and more often than not they simply aren’t in the right spot due to a lack of experience and pushing too high up the ground

 

[Hans Klopek]

At the ground you cold see many times Dion had enough of the umpires, constantly giving it to them. This isn't isolated. He (like all Tigers) knows about the Tiger tax from these maggots.

 

[biaseddustyfan]

So it was still obviously a hilariously poor decision but Simms has to cop some of the blame following that Kosi handball

If he’d just slammed it on his left immediately it would have been an easy goal

Shouldn't even be calling for the handball at the end of the game when ahead anyway. Waste the 30 seconds. He'll learn though probably never do it again after they bring it up in the review

 

[The_Kraken]

When Dion retires, I want an interview with him asking about his thoughts on the umpires. This isn't isolated. He (like all Tigers) knows about the Tiger tax from these maggots.

I tried to play the video, but all I got was static. Then the phone started ringing. I answered, and a weird Japanese chick told me I'd be dead in a week.

 

[SunshineBoy]

Cattle matters

Hardwick had a lot better options when he took over especially in terms of a mix of senior bodies across all lines

Our forward line right now has the age profile of vic metro for the tac cup

Mansell is the only player over 50 games

Our two main keys are first year players and they are the two most important players in terms of forward line structure that the mediums and smalls structure around

If they aren’t in the right position the whole structure fails and more often than not they simply aren’t in the right spot due to a lack of experience and pushing too high up the ground

To put it in perspective Hardwick in 2010 brought in 14 new players on to the list and they wernt all top 20 draft picks , now im not a Hardwick fan but he is a a good coach and to become a great coach he got good assistants , Ouzo is NOT a good coschn

 

[SunshineBoy]

At the ground you cold see many times Dion had enough of the umpires, constantly giving it to them. This isn't isolated. He (like all Tigers) knows about the Tiger tax from these maggots.

Will get a massive fine , bookmark it

 

[SunshineBoy]

I tried to play the video, but all I got was static. Then the phone started ringing. I answered, and a weird Japanese chick told me I'd be dead in a week.

You should have face timed her , Japanese chicks are hot

 

[CASEYS9420]

with you..enjoying the win/loss don't matter, it's all about developing our future.
Up's and downs were always coming, just enjoying the ride.
Cash in our Roos pick + ours and hit the draft again,add more talent.
build, build, build.. future looking promising!

Absolutely, I've only truly got angry once this year and that was Lalor's injury last week (the kid was wrongfully cleared to play) that anger is directed more at fitness staff anyway. Norf & GWS were games we let slip too. 4/6* wins in 18 games, the future is promising.

 

[Truetiger]

It’s actually 2 off seasons the , if you count the new cubs it’s only one off season which is the same every season , stop making excuses about timing , we have yet to hit 100 points and the talk is if we don’t hit 80 points we lose, last night being the exception, the game plan , if there is one is not sustainable , you can’t go two quarters every game without kicking a goal and be happy as a supporter, player, coach , our game plan is utter garbage , some one called me our=t when I said all our players were at some stage elite , they are deemed the best if they are drafted, they don’t suddenly all become duds

This is primarily down to the coaching/coaches , they don’t forget how to kick, they don’t forget how to hand pass , and occasionally we see that they haven’t .

The coaches at the elite level are there to set the style of game and to motivate , certainly in the elite level that I was involved in , I didn’t need to teach my players how to kick or pass but to implement a game style that suited their skill sets.

Ouzo hasn’t or can’t do this , why are other first year draftees picked up later in the draft performing to a game style?

I don’t know what they do at training but it certainly not game style/plan and if it is we are heads towards the worst team since Fitzroy if we aren’t already there.

I know it’s not the done thing to say **** we screwed the pooch with our selection of coach , but sinetimes you got to bite the bullet .

Hardwick in his first year showed improvement in our game style with “the worst team since Fitzroy “ this muppet is going backwards at an alarming rate

As Moose suggested, compare our list to when Hardwick first took over. You’re expecting too much from our side as we are in a rebuild in the early stages. Who were our top three forwards last night, and how many games have they played? We’ll struggle until they have more experience.

 

[Muddiemoose]

To put it in perspective Hardwick in 2010 brought in 14 new players on to the list and they wernt all top 20 draft picks , now im not a Hardwick fan but he is a a good coach and to become a great coach he got good assistants , Ouzo is NOT a good coschn

It’s not really relevant
What matters is who he played in the best 22 and how much experience they have

Lack of experience causes holes in structure

As I mentioned our forward line has next to no experience so it opens it up as the main fail point to be exploited and that is exactly what is happening

We can’t just pretend that it isn’t a major factor and every single opposition coach knows this and plan to exploit it

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

carlton, collingwood, geelong and essendon all lose? What an embarrassment of riches for us tigers supporters

My Golfing mates are Hawks/Pies and Cats.
Teeing off on Tuesday.
Walking upto the 1st be like.

 

[Profop]

To put it in perspective Hardwick in 2010 brought in 14 new players on to the list and they wernt all top 20 draft picks , now im not a Hardwick fan but he is a a good coach and to become a great coach he got good assistants , Ouzo is NOT a good coschn

And in 2010 we finished 2nd last with a win count not dissimilar to this year?

Plus we had a quality key forward

Not sure how you can make a call on the respective coaches just looking at these two seasons

 

[Michaels]

It’s actually 2 off seasons the , if you count the new cubs it’s only one off season which is the same every season , stop making excuses about timing , we have yet to hit 100 points and the talk is if we don’t hit 80 points we lose, last night being the exception, the game plan , if there is one is not sustainable , you can’t go two quarters every game without kicking a goal and be happy as a supporter, player, coach , our game plan is utter garbage , some one called me our=t when I said all our players were at some stage elite , they are deemed the best if they are drafted, they don’t suddenly all become duds

This is primarily down to the coaching/coaches , they don’t forget how to kick, they don’t forget how to hand pass , and occasionally we see that they haven’t .

The coaches at the elite level are there to set the style of game and to motivate , certainly in the elite level that I was involved in , I didn’t need to teach my players how to kick or pass but to implement a game style that suited their skill sets.

Ouzo hasn’t or can’t do this , why are other first year draftees picked up later in the draft performing to a game style?

I don’t know what they do at training but it certainly not game style/plan and if it is we are heads towards the worst team since Fitzroy if we aren’t already there.

I know it’s not the done thing to say **** we screwed the pooch with our selection of coach , but sinetimes you got to bite the bullet .

Hardwick in his first year showed improvement in our game style with “the worst team since Fitzroy “ this muppet is going backwards at an alarming rate

We have won 2 more games than last year with 1,600 games less experience and a raft of first year players playing.

Not difficult to understand where we are at.

enjoy making yourself unnecessarily angry at football games due to lack of understanding of what’s actually happening and where we are at in the cycle.

another who thinks we are working with a seasoned list 5-6 years into a plan.

 

[SunshineBoy]

It’s not really relevant
What matters is who he played in the best 22 and how much experience they have

Lack of experience causes holes in structure

As I mentioned our forward line has next to no experience so it opens it up as the main fail point to be exploited and that is exactly what is happening

We can’t just pretend that it isn’t a major factor

And who were our experienced forwards in 2010 ?

 

[SunshineBoy]

As Moose suggested, compare our list to when Hardwick first took over. You’re expecting too much from our side as we are in a rebuild in the early stages. Who were our top three forwards last night, and how many games have they played? We’ll struggle until they have more experience.

Who were our forwards in 2010?

 

[Andyy]

Mate they were being talked up as top 4 material, Cartoon as premiers

Lol, by who?

F I must have missed that memo.

That's beautiful.

Carltank are the side that I genuinely thought would do better this year. Essendrug is about where I expected.

 

[Truetiger]

enjoy making yourself unnecessarily angry at football games due to lack of understanding of what’s actually happening and where we are at in the cycle.

another who thinks we are working with a seasoned list 5-6 years into a plan.

That’s right, lol! If we have four wins in year 6, then it’s understandable. So many people are overrating our list. Sunshine and others, how many wins did you truly believe we would get this year?

 

[The_Kraken]

You should have face timed her , Japanese chicks are hot

Yeah, I did. But she’s not my type.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

do we need balta?

Yep.
As part of the Reid trade.

 

[Profop]

Who were our forwards in 2010?

Riewoldt was three years in. He won the Coleman in 2010

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Surely that’s Kosi’s last game for any the club

.

 

[Michaels]

That’s right, lol! If we have four wins in year 6, then it’s understandable. So many people are overrating our list. Sunshine and others, how many wins did you truly believe we would get this year?

It’s scary how many people don’t understand the reality.

We were slated as the worst team in modern history not expected to win a game.

Doubled our wins from last year with 1,600 less games of experience out there plus playing a raft of first year players.

Not good enough

 

[STRUGGLETOWN EST1885]

My Golfing mates are Hawks/Pies and Cats.
Teeing off on Tuesday.
Walking upto the 1st be like.
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Doing our weekly shopping this morning. Putting on my Tiges retro top strutting into Coles lol

 

[jetbhag]

Let’s not forget the bummers were gifted 2 goals from the umpires.

It should’ve been a 20 point massacre