Coach Men's Senior Coach: Brad Scott

[FootyGuru]

I would agree with you if it didn’t vary on a week to week basis.

Hardwick last week said he was surprised at how we played because it was not what he expected, a lot more forward handball and a lot less lateral stuff.

On the weekend we played one of the more dominant forward half territory games I can remember, but because it’s foreign to us, we couldn’t solve the math problem of counter attacking and moving the chess pieces up the field on the counter attack. It’s a game that could have been easily won by 8 goals with some different decisions that would have lead to walk in goals.

This week we will probably revert to backwards.

What is real? Is nothing real? The injuries are such that the whole year is a write off but I don’t even know how he wants to set the ground up, let alone any kind of tangible style.

I don’t know whether he likes 2 key talls and a ruck/forward or whether he’s being pragmatic, I don’t know whether he still wants to be a 2 ruck guy, I don’t know whether he is an extra midfield rotations in the front half type or again, it’s being forced on him.

It’s impossible to infer anything from anything.

Cohesion is impossible with this many ins and outs. Training would be getting destroyed too by these injuries.

An oppo coach being surprised is actually what we want isn’t it?

 

[FootyGuru]

That is why you train match day scenarios to actually USE it during a game.

You think we have 36 players out on the track at the moment?

 

[ghostdog]

That is why you train match day scenarios to actually USE it during a game.

Wasn't it Blakiston who kicked bacwards on that occasion?

 

[MiguelM]

Wasn't it Blakiston who kicked bacwards on that occasion?

Not sure but a few time we went back and wide.

Nobody went anywhere near the middle.

 

[thebigboy]

I get that against the good teams, but Richmond, spare me.

Hardly went through the middle, that is on the coaches.

Sick of skill level excuses. From afar our development of players seem awful. If Pies had taken Tsatas I bet he would be a better player.

Is it? It's been pretty well covered on here that we don't train to play that way, and Scott's been pretty clear that ball movement's been a problem all year. The issue is the lack of connection and confidence across the 23 every week. When you don't know what the guy next to you is going to do, you're going to look poor, and you're going to play it safe. That goes for every team sport; we're not alone in that.

I don't think you'll find many people who would disagree that the development has been awful over the past decade. That era should be behind us now that we're properly resourced in that area, and we can only judge from what we're seeing in the last 12 months on that front and the results of the last 12 months looks a lot better than it has for a while, but it's not going turn around over night.

I'm sure Tsatas would look better with Daicos x2, Pendlebury, Sidebottom, De Goey and Mitchell around him, but his case seems to be poor evaluation from our recruiting team on how much his deficiencies could be improved.

 

[Zach Package]

Cohesion is impossible with this many ins and outs. Training would be getting destroyed too by these injuries.

An oppo coach being surprised is actually what we want isn’t it?

I agree, the whole thing is ****ed to the point where you just throw your hands up but there has been week to week variances that I don't think you can attribute to just random chance

 

[faible]

Not sure but a few time we went back and wide.

Nobody went anywhere near the middle.

It may be a surprise to learn, but the opposition generally tries to defend that corridor.

We're quite bad at it, most other teams aren't. Richmond, whilst young, still has a core of Premiership guys who understand how to setup to defend the corridor, and can direct their younger guys to setup to do so.

The entire point of which is to force their opposition to go back and/or wide to find options. Which is exactly what happened.

We don't have those senior players, nor do we have enough players capable of kicking through that zone, or running hard enough for long enough to keep presenting as options to kick to.

Trying to read anything 'game plan' from our current side is pointless.

 

[Nifft]

It may be a surprise to learn, but the opposition generally tries to defend that corridor.

We're quite bad at it, most other teams aren't. Richmond, whilst young, still has a core of Premiership guys who understand how to setup to defend the corridor, and can direct their younger guys to setup to do so.

We don't have those senior players, nor do we have enough players capable of kicking through that zone, or running hard enough for long enough to keep presenting as options to kick to.

Trying to read anything 'game plan' from our current side is pointless.

I think that was the difference on the weekend. Whilst their senior guys were providing leadership to the younger guys. ours just weren't. Disappointing that guys like Redman, McGrath, Laverde etc aren't doing the same thing for us.

 

[MiguelM]

Is it? It's been pretty well covered on here that we don't train to play that way, and Scott's been pretty clear that ball movement's been a problem all year. The issue is the lack of connection and confidence across the 23 every week. When you don't know what the guy next to you is going to do, you're going to look poor, and you're going to play it safe. That goes for every team sport; we're not alone in that.

I don't think you'll find many people who would disagree that the development has been awful over the past decade. That era should be behind us now that we're properly resourced in that area, and we can only judge from what we're seeing in the last 12 months on that front and the results of the last 12 months looks a lot better than it has for a while, but it's not going turn around over night.

I'm sure Tsatas would look better with Daicos x2, Pendlebury, Sidebottom, De Goey and Mitchell around him, but his case seems to be poor evaluation from our recruiting team on how much his deficiencies could be improved.

Hope you are right.

Happy so far with recruiting now.

Thing is I was happy the way we played against GC but Really disappointed we played safe against Tigers. We put 1 extra back in defence and that sets the mindset IMO.

I hear you re Tsatas. Our senior players have zero leadership compared to Pies.

 

[MiguelM]

It may be a surprise to learn, but the opposition generally tries to defend that corridor.

We're quite bad at it, most other teams aren't. Richmond, whilst young, still has a core of Premiership guys who understand how to setup to defend the corridor, and can direct their younger guys to setup to do so.

The entire point of which is to force their opposition to go back and/or wide to find options. Which is exactly what happened.

We don't have those senior players, nor do we have enough players capable of kicking through that zone, or running hard enough for long enough to keep presenting as options to kick to.

Trying to read anything 'game plan' from our current side is pointless.

Lloyd summed it up perfectly on the footy show, opposition know where we are going.

 

[thebigboy]

Hope you are right.

Happy so far with recruiting now.

Thing is I was happy the way we played against GC but Really disappointed we played safe against Tigers. We put 1 extra back in defence and that sets the mindset IMO.

I hear you re Tsatas. Our senior players have zero leadership compared to Pies.

I think we all were. I was very bullish that we'd win by 5 goals+ based on the first 3 quarters last week. Unfortunately, I think the rest of the year, if we're judging our future on our game plan, we're going to get an incomplete picture. It's all on what we see from our youngsters across their resilience and toughness week in week out.

 

[MiguelM]

I think we all were. I was very bullish that we'd win by 5 goals+ based on the first 3 quarters last week. Unfortunately, I think the rest of the year, if we're judging our future on our game plan, we're going to get an incomplete picture. It's all on what we see from our youngsters across their resilience and toughness week in week out.

Yeah, was stoked with our mindset against GC.

really happy with our young players, think we are on the right path. Just need some our senior players to show more, pointing the finger at Redman, McGrath & 2MP as main culprits.

Keep playing Tsatas, Lual & bring in McMahon.

 

[Call Me Cake]

Disappointing that guys like Redman, McGrath, Laverde etc aren't doing the same thing for us.

Laverde shouldn't even be in the team bro. That's where we're at. Context.

 

[Foxx]

A good coach would have looked at the fixture, and identified all the night games. Then adjusted training of an evening to get the players bodies used to it.

 

[Milanista28]

Will Brad be our next premiership coach? Highly unlikely, but if we do it right, he should be the guy who sets the next guy up.

 

[faible]

Lloyd summed it up perfectly on the footy show, opposition know where we are going.

Yes:

The entire point of which is to force their opposition to go back and/or wide to find options. Which is exactly what happened.

You see it every single week, the good sides defend the corridor well.

Collingwood often play a bit slower coming out of the back half trying to open up space in the zone, then take the centering kick when it becomes available. Sometimes it doesn't and you go boundary side the whole way.

 

[faible]

I think that was the difference on the weekend. Whilst their senior guys were providing leadership to the younger guys. ours just weren't. Disappointing that guys like Redman, McGrath, Laverde etc aren't doing the same thing for us.

McGrath is the one that you'd expect to do that; has played > 170 games and is the Vice Captain. If he can't setup the back half of the ground why is he in the leadership group?

 

[ant555]

That is why you train match day scenarios to actually USE it during a game.

What you think we just run around doing circle work at training ?

Of course they train match day scenarios but Richmond are hardly going to be nice and give us an advanced plan of what they are going to do.

They blocked the middle by playing two high forwards and turned the game into a shit fight. We could intercept but we could not run it through the middle. Obviously our foot skills are not good enough to kick through it.

When we could get through we then did our usual trick of kicking it to them and they then used the extra numbers to run it back the other way.

You are way off course if you think we are training just backwards kicking and not training match scenarios and red time drills.

Then you are not taking into account that it can take the young blokes a couple of seasons to find the level and be able to execute game plan.

 

[Call Me Cake]

Highly unlikely

How so?

but if we do it right, he should be the guy who sets the next guy up.

This hard on that people have for what Melbourne did just cos it worked out for them is crazy.

 

[ant555]

Richmond had more game plan in the last.

With 3 minutes to go we kicked backwards, that is dumb when you need to score.

It is not the kids either (Kako was great), it is our senior players Redman, McGrath even Merrett had shocking turnovers.

IDK, too many excuses.

What game plan did they have ? All that happened was they executed a few more kicks going forward. We didn’t.
The difference was they had about 5% less **** ups and as mentioned above they have a few premiership players and we have blokes who have a proven record of not getting the job done.

And at that stage we were down two midfielders.
Martin would have made a difference through the middle.

You seem to be looking for us to do something but we have no record of being a club with finals experience. Good leaders and a winning culture.
Leadership on the field is a big thing and we are bloody thin in that area.

 

[ant555]

You think we have 36 players out on the track at the moment?

Obviously he thinks we just run a 1 hour circle work drill after we do 40 minutes of lanes.

 

[dank420_]

Richmond had more game plan in the last.

They played exactly the same as us all game lmao

 

[Nifft]

Laverde shouldn't even be in the team bro. That's where we're at. Context.

No he shouldn't, but he is a experienced senior player nonetheless. The guys who are selected with more experience should be helping to direct the younger guys. I think this is what was identified when is was said we were lacking leadership, not enough of the older more experienced guys have it in them to provide guidance to those that need it.

 

[Call Me Cake]

No he shouldn't, but he is a experienced senior player nonetheless. The guys who are selected with more experience should be helping to direct the younger guys. I think this is what was identified when is was said we were lacking leadership, not enough of the older more experienced guys have it in them to provide guidance to those that need it.

What I meant was, he's not even our third choice as shown by the selection of Hayes, and was on the way out... yet is playing. It's to paint a picture of the situation we've found ourselves in.

 

[Milanista28]

How so?



This hard on that people have for what Melbourne did just cos it worked out for them is crazy.

Well they're hard to win for one and we're a mile off it at present so I don't think it's wild to think he's highly unlikely to win us a flag, he's also had 13 years as a senior coach and hasn't won it, I expect him to get to 15/16 before we're challenging to win finals.

What has my post got to do with Melbourne?