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One rules for one another rule for others.

If you're upset now, I’ve got bad news... Sinner's going to win many more Slsms and there’s no asterisk next to any of them.

He got a three month ban for trace contamination from a physio’s cream, 1 part per trillion, no performance boost and no deception. Even WADA accepted it was accidental.

Meanwhile Tara Moore’s case involved two banned substances, and the tribunal initially cleared her, but WADA appealed and showed the contamination claim didn’t hold up scientifically. She lost on evidence.

Different rules? No, different facts and thresholds, based on science and intent

If that’s too hard to follow, maybe tennis isn’t the problem.
 
If you're upset now, I’ve got bad news... Sinner's going to win many more Slsms and there’s no asterisk next to any of them.

He got a three month ban for trace contamination from a physio’s cream, 1 part per trillion, no performance boost and no deception. Even WADA accepted it was accidental.

Meanwhile Tara Moore’s case involved two banned substances, and the tribunal initially cleared her, but WADA appealed and showed the contamination claim didn’t hold up scientifically. She lost on evidence.

Different rules? No, different facts and thresholds, based on science and intent

If that’s too hard to follow, maybe tennis isn’t the problem.
Sinner tested positive for twice for drugs, but hey ho you won't mind that when you have kids that they or their team lose to a person that have tested for drugs
 
If you're upset now, I’ve got bad news... Sinner's going to win many more Slsms and there’s no asterisk next to any of them.

He got a three month ban for trace contamination from a physio’s cream, 1 part per trillion, no performance boost and no deception. Even WADA accepted it was accidental.

Meanwhile Tara Moore’s case involved two banned substances, and the tribunal initially cleared her, but WADA appealed and showed the contamination claim didn’t hold up scientifically. She lost on evidence.

Different rules? No, different facts and thresholds, based on science and intent

If that’s too hard to follow, maybe tennis isn’t the problem.
Sinner didn't get a long ban because she's a high profile player, but Tara Moore did because she isn't
 

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Aussie in exile

You're in loop mode now... just repeating “tested positive for drugs = cheat” like a broken alarm, ignoring every fact, context, and scientific explanation you've laid out.

This is classic bad faith debate:

Ignoring nuance

Ignoring replies

Keeps shifting from science to emotion "think of the children"

Equating trace environmental contamination with deliberate PED use

Yes, Sinner had two positives for the same microscopic clostebol residue, 8 days apart, at one part per trillion.

WADA investigated and found no intent or performance gain, from cross-contamination from a topical spray.
 
Aussie in exile

You're in loop mode now... just repeating “tested positive for drugs = cheat” like a broken alarm, ignoring every fact, context, and scientific explanation you've laid out.

This is classic bad faith debate:

Ignoring nuance

Ignoring replies

Keeps shifting from science to emotion "think of the children"

Equating trace environmental contamination with deliberate PED use

Yes, Sinner had two positives for the same microscopic clostebol residue, 8 days apart, at one part per trillion.

WADA investigated and found no intent or performance gain, from cross-contamination from a topical spray.
You are ignoring a person who's TWICE tested positive for drugs.
Once can be an accident, but twice never.
 
You are ignoring a person who's TWICE tested positive for drugs.
Once can be an accident, but twice never.

You’ve said the same thing again, word for word, like repetition makes it truer.

Both tests were for the same microscopic residue, 8 days apart, from external contamination, not use. WADA confirmed it. Science explains it. You keep ignoring it.

I'm done trying to explain chemistry to someone to appears to have failed science in high school.
 
You’ve said the same thing again, word for word, like repetition makes it truer.

Both tests were for the same microscopic residue, 8 days apart, from external contamination, not use. WADA confirmed it. Science explains it. You keep ignoring it.

I'm done trying to explain chemistry to someone to appears to have failed science in high school.
I say once can be a mistake TWICE never.
Anyway you can never complain when you have kids that they lose to drug cheats, or your football team loses to a team with drug cheats in their team
 
I say once can be a mistake TWICE never.
Anyway you can never complain when you have kids that they lose to drug cheats, or your football team loses to a team with drug cheats in their team
The old anti Italianism again?
Funny when Auusie athletes or teams get caught.. oh not us...... we are the noble Anglo sporting race
 
The old anti Italianism again?
Funny when Auusie athletes or teams get caught.. oh not us...... we are the noble Anglo sporting race

I don't think AIE has an issue with him being Italian, he just doesn't understand how science works.

Sinner's coach is an ozzie, and one of if the best of all time, who coached Australia's Davis cup coach and Agassi. Cahill has said Sinner is the most outstanding individual tennis player his every met at his age, just based on his character. I think most people know this just by how Jannik speaks and how much sportsmanship he shows in matches.

Woodbridge actually said after tournament finished if you wanted a role model for your kids, there are none better than Sinner and Alcaraz for how they play tennis.
 
I don't think AIE has an issue with him being Italian, he just doesn't understand how science works.

Sinner's coach is an ozzie, and one of if the best of all time, who coached Australia's Davis cup coach and Agassi. Cahill has said Sinner is the most outstanding individual tennis player his every met at his age, just based on his character. I think most people know this just by how Jannik speaks and how much sportsmanship he shows in matches.

Woodbridge actually said after tournament finished if you wanted a role model for your kids, there are none better than Sinner and Alcaraz for how they play tennis.
Yes i do know how science works 100% and that's the problem that you people have defending him, and his actions.
He got caught twice the same as the Brit girl and look at the ban she got compared to his.
 
Yes i do know how science works 100% and that's the problem that you people have defending him, and his actions.
He got caught twice the same as the Brit girl and look at the ban she got compared to his.

If you really understood science 100% you’d know that both of Sinner’s tests came from the same microscopic trace, not two separate doping events.

WADA understood that, that’s why he got 3 months, not 4 years. Tara Moore’s case didn’t hold up under reanalysis, that’s why she got 4 years. 🙄

If you can’t tell the difference between trace contamination and double substance ingestion, maybe don’t lecture others about science.

You’ve repeated a dozen times not twice EQUALS cheat like it’s algebra. It’s not.

It’s bad math... and honestly... a grade five student could follow the logic better.
 
If you really understood science 100% you’d know that both of Sinner’s tests came from the same microscopic trace, not two separate doping events.

WADA understood that, that’s why he got 3 months, not 4 years. Tara Moore’s case didn’t hold up under reanalysis, that’s why she got 4 years. 🙄

If you can’t tell the difference between trace contamination and double substance ingestion, maybe don’t lecture others about science.

You’ve repeated a dozen times not twice EQUALS cheat like it’s algebra. It’s not.

It’s bad math... and honestly... a grade five student could follow the logic better.
Dude you are obviously pro drugs in sport and i just hope when you have kids they don't lose to druggies at sport
 

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Dude you are obviously pro drugs in sport and i just hope when you have kids they don't lose to druggies at sport

You’ve built a strawman in your head because you can’t refute the science.

You keep attacking me as “pro drugs” which is not only disgusting, but says more about your character than mine. I’ve clearly said I’m against performance enhancers.

So let’s try this again:

Can you refute that Sinner’s positives were trace-level contamination, confirmed by WADA?

Can you refute that two tests for the same residue does not equal two doping offenses?

Can you provide any science, not Trump-level slogans like “but it was twice!”?

You won’t, because you can’t.

And nothing you post here is going to change that Sinner will be revered over the next decade by commentators and players for his athleticism, skill, and sportsmanship.

What will change is how people view you on this forum... and if we’re honest, I think that’s already happened.
 
You’ve built a strawman in your head because you can’t refute the science.

You keep attacking me as “pro drugs” which is not only disgusting, but says more about your character than mine. I’ve clearly said I’m against performance enhancers.

So let’s try this again:

Can you refute that Sinner’s positives were trace-level contamination, confirmed by WADA?

Can you refute that two tests for the same residue does not equal two doping offenses?

Can you provide any science, not Trump-level slogans like “but it was twice!”?

You won’t, because you can’t.

And nothing you post here is going to change that Sinner will be revered over the next decade by commentators and players for his athleticism, skill, and sportsmanship.

What will change is how people view you on this forum... and if we’re honest, I think that’s already happened.
I think we can leave this that, you are pro drugs in sport and have no trouble when you have kids if they lose to a person or persons who do drugs, why I'm 100% against drugs in sport.
 
I think we can leave this that, you are pro drugs in sport and have no trouble when you have kids if they lose to a person or persons who do drugs, why I'm 100% against drugs in sport.

You’ve dodged every actual point I’ve raised for what, the fifteenth time now? Not once have you addressed the science, the context, or the WADA findings. Just the same lazy strawman like a broken record.

You keep saying “you’re pro drugs in sport” like that magically wins the argument. It doesn’t. It just shows you’ve got nothing else.

I’m pro facts, you’re pro-ignoring them.

Sinner will keep winning Slams. He’ll keep being respected by players, coaches, commentators, and fans, and you’ll still be here shouting “cheater” at one part per trillion like it means something.

That’s the difference between having an argument and acting like a child on Bigfooty.




I'm done talking about your imaginary dragons. For anyone else, have a look how good how good these two guys hit the ball, it's watching rockets fired from each side of the court.

 
You’ve dodged every actual point I’ve raised for what, the fifteenth time now? Not once have you addressed the science, the context, or the WADA findings. Just the same lazy strawman like a broken record.

You keep saying “you’re pro drugs in sport” like that magically wins the argument. It doesn’t. It just shows you’ve got nothing else.

I’m pro facts, you’re pro-ignoring them.

Sinner will keep winning Slams. He’ll keep being respected by players, coaches, commentators, and fans, and you’ll still be here shouting “cheater” at one part per trillion like it means something.

That’s the difference between having an argument and acting like a child on Bigfooty.




I'm done talking about your imaginary dragons. For anyone else, have a look how good how good these two guys hit the ball, it's watching rockets fired from each side of the court.


"i'm profacts" you claim, but you are not.
You keep forgetting that Sinner has been caught twice, and I say again, once can be a mistake, twice in a short time never
 
"i'm profacts" you claim, but you are not.
You keep forgetting that Sinner has been caught twice, and I say again, once can be a mistake, twice in a short time never

I've never seen someone get the same thing something so wrong so often in a forum, you've done this about 20 times now.

At this point I'd rather have a conversation with Trump than you, begone.
 

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I've never seen someone get the same thing something so wrong so often in a forum, you've done this about 20 times now.

At this point I'd rather have a conversation with Trump than you, begone.
Not once have you condemned the use of drugs in sport on this forum, so now you have the opportunity to do ii, so lets see you do it.
 

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