List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Cuzz09]

Duggan needs to get the hell out of defence.

Coughs up min 2-3 goals a week directly.

Just get him in the middle smashing heads or off but not defensive side of 50

Hough defence
Duggan mid
Hutch fwd
Kelly wafl

 

[Elite Pete]

• We cant get Moyle if GCS just say no, he signed on again only last year, knocking back offers from his home state and hes only a year or so away from the number 1 spot at GCS anyway. They dont have to match anything we offer. They might go for it but I wouldnt offer him too much overs, comfortably more than hes on now thought for sure.
• McVee yes, but wouldnt he be in that same category as Baker/Owies/Cameron anyway. We should enquire, but we are short on list spots so it might be hard if we want a midfielder too. An Erasmus/Phillips/Sheldrick is more important than a McVee.

• Nothing wrong with offering Cameron big money, hes one of the best rucks in the comp and we need to pay somebody. Buys us 3-4 more years before we need another ruckman too
• Erasmus worst case is some incredible WAFL depth, hes an absolute gun down there, would make life a lot easier for any midfield draftees we grab. Best case hes a solid contributor in the main side. I dont see an issue with this, its the draft capital cost that id be worried about rather than his contract length.

The right players need to be keen to come to us too lol, and we cant just pay them 2x their value just to get them, that just upsets the rest of the squad. Imagine if we offer some B-grader 1.2mil a year and they end up playing like Owies lmao.
What the Saints have been doing just reeks of desperation

What the saints are doing with TDK is smart imo, if they have a buyer for Marshall for a first round pick.

They have some nice kids and will get a younger ruck with huge upside and sell their current one for a first round pick. Generates a first round pick (maybe young Pou) and they will front end that TDK so much by his 3rd year he will likely be on normal wages anyway.

 

[Elite Pete]

Our 25yo+ seasons would be the worse in the afl history I reckon. Literally getting nothing from them. It’s so much heavy lifting for the 18-24yo.

Baker and Graham the only ones in this age that get a pass. Missing a player like Graham this much just proves how bad that age range is.

Should be easy to find at least 2 guys in this range that can be plug and play for cheap. A starting contributing midfielder is a must. (One that should’ve been Kelly’s spot)

 

[stallon]

What the saints are doing with TDK is smart imo, if they have a buyer for Marshall for a first round pick.

They have some nice kids and will get a younger ruck with huge upside and sell their current one for a first round pick. Generates a first round pick (maybe young Pou) and they will front end that TDK so much by his 3rd year he will likely be on normal wages anyway.

Yeah thats fair, we arent in a position to do that though unfortunately.

If we start throwing huge contracts at contracted players we will have to stump up picks accordingly, which obviously doesnt really suit, outside a couple of targeted roles we need to fill

 

[WCE777]

Im more of a "id rather miss the big fish then catch the minnow" type of person. I think last year we should have went for say James Peatling, missed out and rather then give Owies a 3 year deal put Maric on the main list and get a new rookie .

In saying that I think its pretty obvious we are not going to do that . I dont really want Lachie Sholl in a sense id rather throw insane money at much better players as ive mentioned many times before but I think its still whats going to happen.

Lets say I was able to run this club without any thought of what we would and could do. For me the changes would be this simple

• Give Ned Moyle a enormous deal he cant refuse. Everything this off season would revolve around this. Get it done no matter what. If Gold Coast want to be insane and give up Ben King to match our offer then so be it
• Give Judd McVee the role he wants and bring him in

Instead what we will get is

• Give Darcy Cameron a enormous deal he cant refuse
• Pry Neil Erasmus from Freo with a 4 year deal when they are only offering 2

Its more or less trying to make the better choices then the ones we currently do... If we are going to overpay, if we are going to reach lets overpay and reach for the right players atleast....

I am in the same boat, rather miss the big fish than catch the minnow.
Didn't we try that with Warner and missed.

I get totally where you are going and while our list is shit I think the new team behind our list management has shown a last year to be highly aggressive in pursuing talent.
The reality is we are down the bottom and we are only likely to get players to the club over the next couple of trade periods from WA.
Also we know bugger all who we have targeted and missed by 10.
We are not going to solve our midfield woes quickly, there is just no one who is gettable in the top 50 midfielders for us.
I will throw up a B grade mid role player T Powell from NM who is 23, OOC 2026 as probably the most likely of the gettables but at what cost?

We need senior bodies in there.
It will most likely be players we have identified in the past or fringe WA players that we can attract.
I have viewed 3rd and 4th round picks as NGA bids at best and should be used to attract role players to the club.
Not ready to be elite yet but Fonti from GWS is an elite runner and ball user OOC 2027, 21 later this year would be another on my list.
Not easy to find inside players at he right age and experience to help our midfield.
More than happy to be proven wrong.

 

[Elite Pete]

Yeah thats fair, we arent in a position to do that though unfortunately.

If we start throwing huge contracts at contracted players we will have to stump up picks accordingly, which obviously doesnt really suit, outside a couple of targeted roles we need to fill

That’s why we should already be right into any Free Agents for 2026. Offering them can’t say no money before they sign on at their current club.

I would have no issue if we traded pick 2 and F2 for Warner type either but just can’t see it happening. We are a hard sell atm, and even harder if Harley isn’t signed (or buy even here)

Buckley- but sounds like he is already close to signing at the Giants.

Mids- Neale, Walsh, Bailey? Cupboard is pretty empty for FA next year too would likely make the move imo.

 

[WCE777]

Our 25yo+ seasons would be the worse in the afl history I reckon. Literally getting nothing from them. It’s so much heavy lifting for the 18-24yo.

Baker and Graham the only ones in this age that get a pass. Missing a player like Graham this much just proves how bad that age range is.

Should be easy to find at least 2 guys in this range that can be plug and play for cheap. A starting contributing midfielder is a must. (One that should’ve been Kelly’s spot)

Who are your 2 plug and play 25yo+ for cheap starting midfield?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I am in the same boat, rather miss the big fish than catch the minnow.
Didn't we try that with Warner and missed.

I get totally where you are going and while our list is shit I think the new team behind our list management has shown a last year to be highly aggressive in pursuing talent.
The reality is we are down the bottom and we are only likely to get players to the club over the next couple of trade periods from WA.
Also we know bugger all who we have targeted and missed by 10.
We are not going to solve our midfield woes quickly, there is just no one who is gettable in the top 50 midfielders for us.
I will throw up a B grade mid role player T Powell from NM who is 23, OOC 2026 as probably the most likely of the gettables but at what cost?

We need senior bodies in there.
It will most likely be players we have identified in the past or fringe WA players that we can attract.
I have viewed 3rd and 4th round picks as NGA bids at best and should be used to attract role players to the club.
Not ready to be elite yet but Fonti from GWS is an elite runner and ball user OOC 2027, 21 later this year would be another on my list.
Not easy to find inside players at he right age and experience to help our midfield.
More than happy to be proven wrong.

We need senior bodies in there isnt correct. We need TALENTED senior bodies in there. Owies was purely a "well anything is better then nothing" approach to trading in which we have ended up with nothing, and then ontop if that we got a 3 year deal on decent money we cant get rid of

Our approach last year wasnt too dissimilar to the one took by the LA Lakers back in the day when they had money to spend, the talent pool dried up so they have 18 mill to Luol Deng, 16 mill per year to Mozgov who were both very much the Matt Owies of basketball and just ended up burning through a ton of cash for absolutely zero return.

If a senior body is a something is better then nothing, just accept the nothing if you ask me. Wait til the something much much better is found. When its all said and done id rather up Harley Reids offer to 2.5 mill a year then keep plodding in the Owies of the world and have Harley leave next off season

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Who are your 2 plug and play 25yo+ for cheap starting midfield?

In a world upon which Don Pyke isnt a weak little duckling it could be James Worpel via PSD and Brandon Starcevich via a trade deal with Brisbane in order to protect the free agency compo. If not at that level we could atleast grow some courage, ask AFL for end of 2nd round priority picks we gotta trade and simply get both of those guys in while protecting pick 2.

 

[Elite Pete]

Who are your 2 plug and play 25yo+ for cheap starting midfield?

Probably only one mid because would need still need a mature ruck and KPD to bring in as well.

Mids you’d have to see what unfolds like Kennedy and McCrae late last year but Tom Mitchell, Matt Crouch would be on the radar.

Riley Garcia was the big miss last year imo. Would be our Number 2 mid atm. A chance he might not leave the Dogs line up now. (But who knows with Bevo)

Tunstill, Sheldrick, Erasmus types would be the break glass in case of emergency as not sure if they are even an upgrade on Hall

Would be asking the question for Ollie Florent too, will have suitors back home in Vic though.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Duggan needs to get the hell out of defence.

Coughs up min 2-3 goals a week directly.

Just get him in the middle smashing heads or off but not defensive side of 50

Hough defence
Duggan mid
Hutch fwd
Kelly wafl

Duggan isn’t a midfielder

 

[Barrybran]

We need senior bodies in there isnt correct. We need TALENTED senior bodies in there. Owies was purely a "well anything is better then nothing" approach to trading in which we have ended up with nothing, and then ontop if that we got a 3 year deal on decent money we cant get rid of

Our approach last year wasnt too dissimilar to the one took by the LA Lakers back in the day when they had money to spend, the talent pool dried up so they have 18 mill to Luol Deng, 16 mill per year to Mozgov who were both very much the Matt Owies of basketball and just ended up burning through a ton of cash for absolutely zero return.

If a senior body is a something is better then nothing, just accept the nothing if you ask me. Wait til the something much much better is found. When its all said and done id rather up Harley Reids offer to 2.5 mill a year then keep plodding in the Owies of the world and have Harley leave next off season

When was the last time we traded in a midfielder? Kelly? And he wanted to come home. And it set our list back a couple of years.

Our primary midfield unit of the future will be drafted. We can potentially fill it with guys from other clubs looking for opportunity (Angus Sheldrick, Will Phillips, Cam Mackenzie, etc.). Any senior bodies we bring in will be the Baker/Graham types, veterans from clubs on the downward cycle of the premiership window looking to free up list spots.

It is likely that we will be spending our money this year improving our floor rather than our ceiling.

In a couple of years' time, the core of our list will hit 50-100 games and we'll be looking to bring in the Redden and Yeo types.

 

[WCE777]

We need senior bodies in there isnt correct. We need TALENTED senior bodies in there. Owies was purely a "well anything is better then nothing" approach to trading in which we have ended up with nothing, and then ontop if that we got a 3 year deal on decent money we cant get rid of

Our approach last year wasnt too dissimilar to the one took by the LA Lakers back in the day when they had money to spend, the talent pool dried up so they have 18 mill to Luol Deng, 16 mill per year to Mozgov who were both very much the Matt Owies of basketball and just ended up burning through a ton of cash for absolutely zero return.

If a senior body is a something is better then nothing, just accept the nothing if you ask me. Wait til the something much much better is found. When its all said and done id rather up Harley Reids offer to 2.5 mill a year then keep plodding in the Owies of the world and have Harley leave next off season

TALENTED senior bodies, yes
T Powell talented senior body?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

TALENTED senior bodies, yes
T Powell talented senior body?

He will be tougher to get away then Ned Moyle would in all reality so it feels like the wrong discussion to have

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

When was the last time we traded in a midfielder? Kelly? And he wanted to come home. And it set our list back a couple of years.

Our primary midfield unit of the future will be drafted. We can potentially fill it with guys from other clubs looking for opportunity (Angus Sheldrick, Will Phillips, Cam Mackenzie, etc.). Any senior bodies we bring in will be the Baker/Graham types, veterans from clubs on the downward cycle of the premiership window looking to free up list spots.

It is likely that we will be spending our money this year improving our floor rather than our ceiling.

In a couple of years' time, the core of our list will hit 50-100 games and we'll be looking to bring in the Redden and Yeo types.

I dont believe this for 1 second. The club wants a quick sugar hit. We did it last year and you can bet every cent you have they will do the exact same thing this year

 

[Barrybran]

TALENTED senior bodies, yes
T Powell talented senior body?

We'd take a Tom Powell type in a heartbeat right now. Harley needs help and we need more strings to our bow than Yeo getting on the field or Hewett/Gross/Hall making it long term as midfielders.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Duggan needs to get the hell out of defence.

Coughs up min 2-3 goals a week directly.

Just get him in the middle smashing heads or off but not defensive side of 50

Hough defence
Duggan mid
Hutch fwd
Kelly wafl

Duggan can get out of the team. He is not fast, can't break any tackles and can't kick. He's useless anywhere on the field.

 

[WCE777]

Probably only one mid because would need still need a mature ruck and KPD to bring in as well.

Mids you’d have to see what unfolds like Kennedy and McCrae late last year but Tom Mitchell, Matt Crouch would be on the radar.

Riley Garcia was the big miss last year imo. Would be our Number 2 mid atm. A chance he might not leave the Dogs line up now. (But who knows with Bevo)

Tunstill, Sheldrick, Erasmus types would be the break glass in case of emergency as not sure if they are even an upgrade on Hall

Would be asking the question for Ollie Florent too, will have suitors back home in Vic though.

Can agree on Garcia, he is a ferocious young mid who would be number 2, very worthwhile throw at the stumps.
T Powell would be my other top priority.
All others you mentioned are break glass types like you say.

 

[Barrybran]

I dont believe this for 1 second. The club wants a quick sugar hit. We did it last year and you can bet every cent you have they will do the exact same thing this year

The club isn't looking for a sugar hit. Look at our list build the last couple of years. Hunt came in and filled a role. Graham and Baker have come in and filled roles. Owies was supposed to fill Cripps' position but Cripps has been the better player. Meanwhile, we're trading down the draft order, adding picks and drafting for position. Same will happen this year. It's why we're looking at the likes of Darcy Cameron despite him being 30. It raises our floor while we get more kids in the door, and get preseasons and games into them.

At some point in the next couple of years, we'll flip the switch and go after better players in more prominent roles. But we're still a year or two away from that point.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Duggan wouldnt get anything that would make it worth losing him.
A 2nd rounder maybe, better off keeping him

2nd rounder > Duggan. Nobody would trade for him, nobody. He is that bad

 

[Elite Pete]

I dont believe this for 1 second. The club wants a quick sugar hit. We did it last year and you can bet every cent you have they will do the exact same thing this year

They also want to retain players and winning is one of the biggest things that helps that.

The holes in the midfield for 2026 can be filled in different ways.
A marquee signing? (Warner type looks very unlikely)
Draft? Not many will be able to play a lot of mid time for the next 12-24 months but definitely something you do anyway.
Cheap trade/signings. There are players out there that can fill that role and could have a 150 game career at the Eagles if they recruit the right player. Not everyone you bring in has to have the potential to be a superstar, some just to play the role.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

It's narrower than that. Our recruiters are unable to identify or unwilling to draft fast ground ball players of any sort, contested or uncontested.

The problem with trading for midfielders is that they're likely to be older and slower when we need ball speed and energy stoppages. We need someone to anchor our midfielder outside of Reid to free him up, and then we need a fleet of smaller running players.

Hate to say it, but I recon Dev is that anchor we need.

 

[ziad]

Duggan needs to get the hell out of defence.

Coughs up min 2-3 goals a week directly.

Just get him in the middle smashing heads or off but not defensive side of 50

Hough defence
Duggan mid
Hutch fwd
Kelly wafl

Duggan hasnt the skill to play mid, Nor Hutch to play forward. Kelly is exoperience and a heavier body - at this stage of his career he is a role player only - I think people expect too much .

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

The club isn't looking for a sugar hit. Look at our list build the last couple of years. Hunt came in and filled a role. Graham and Baker have come in and filled roles. Owies was supposed to fill Cripps' position but Cripps has been the better player. Meanwhile, we're trading down the draft order, adding picks and drafting for position. Same will happen this year. It's why we're looking at the likes of Darcy Cameron despite him being 30. It raises our floor while we get more kids in the door, and get preseasons and games into them.

At some point in the next couple of years, we'll flip the switch and go after better players in more prominent roles. But we're still a year or two away from that point.

Darcy Cameron is a sugar hit though. Id also argue that by not asking for priority pick assistance that is another sugar hit for the people who make the decisions. They get to walk around like egomaniacs because they are too weak to take a punch.

Im happy to raise the floor but the path we are taking to do it is all wrong

 

[ziad]

Hate to say it, but I recon Dev is that anchor we need.

As blatantly stupid this comment is (and deaply distressing) it just may be correct. Kids, Kids , Kids for as far as you can see at the moment.