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I don't care what he is payed. If he leaves, I know our club and the AFL is cooked and I won't financially support an organisation that is taking the piss and gaslighting us.
They expect us to wank ourselves stupid over games like yesterday while compromising the draft and manipulating the fixture to keep our club permanently down.
not to mention giving players "ambassador payments" so they dont come to st kilda
 

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Even if we get 3 picks inside the top 10 at the end of 2027 for him, there’s still a 3-4 year wait until those players become reliable at best. Which is 5-6 years down the line.
My point exactly. Then we develop another champ like NWM, and they leave to a big club for 3 frdp's and the development is another 3-4 years. Feeder club permanently in tier 2 of the AFL.farce of a competition.
 
not to mention giving players "ambassador payments" so they dont come to st kilda
I know the exact story directly from Satan how the AFL stepped in on Ben King.
In the end they saved us from ourselves, but the corruption and thumb on the scale is legion.
 
This is the answer.

But I want to add, I don’t think we are winning the flag by the end of 2027. There is a big gap between us today and the contenders + flags are bloody tough to win.

If we lose nas, it doesn’t matter what the plans this club or the expectations this supporter base has. We aren’t contending for years.

So, if hypothetically and that’s all this $2m talk is, the only way to keep him. Then sure.

But if you want to be paid $2m a season, then ****ing commit to us so we can build something.
Why should he commit when our most optimistic supporter doesn’t think we’ll be any good by 27.

It’s the ****ing weirdest shit in the world for me to be saying “back the club” and you to be saying the opposite.
 
Random to ask me when I talk shit right?

Not like we were chatting away. It was out of the blue.

Then you said Bergman was coming and I said I didn’t think that was the case.

Then I said - without being directly told of it that my impression was they wanted Rowell…

Both well before the media right mate?

But I’m full of shit 😂
Ok guys, this isn’t a d*ck measuring contest. No1 cares
 

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No idea mate.

Is that what you are hanging on about? You went with it in May.

99% accurate source remember.



And for the record, I’ve shown people evidence of this conversation. It’s a good source. So bloody hope it’s true.
Oh god you’re back to claiming sources.

Well it was fun while it lasted.
 
Why should he commit when our most optimistic supporter doesn’t think we’ll be any good by 27.

It’s the ****ing weirdest shit in the world for me to be saying “back the club” and you to be saying the opposite.
I didn’t say we wouldn’t be good. I said wouldn’t be winning a flag.
 
Oh god you’re back to claiming sources.

Well it was fun while it lasted.
Yeah because I think I’d be an utter prick if I just went and burnt a journo with a screenshot of the convo.

It’s literally as I said.

I asked about a Rumour.
 
I didn’t say we wouldn’t be good. I said wouldn’t be winning a flag.

Again.
This club needs to start looking like it is going somewhere.
If we are in the same spot this time next year. The drums will be playing very loudly for the removal of Lyon. And therefore it won't matter as Nas will leave along with a number of others you'd suggest.

Two years gives the club the chance to actually prove to its supporters and the players that good things are on the horizon.

Give him the 2 years and back the club in. Otherwise it seems like they dont necessarily think that the next two years will be as good as we would hope.
 
Yeah because I think I’d be an utter prick if I just went and burnt a journo with a screenshot of the convo.

It’s literally as I said.

I asked about a Rumour.
I’d say believing journos is a move only a prick woukd make actually.

He’s been gone, signed for 4, then 2, maybe for a mil, then 1.4, now he’s worth 12.

Citing them means about as me citing my 4 year old.

Thinking it makes you itk is adorable.
 

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I didn’t say we wouldn’t be good. I said wouldn’t be winning a flag.
Either way Nas is gone in 2 so tell him to piss of now apparently.

Worst case he leaves in 2 and we get a better trade deal for him (when we may as well start another rebuild anyway cause Sincs and co will be aged out.
 
I’d say believing journos is a move only a prick woukd make actually.

He’s been gone, signed for 4, then 2, maybe for a mil, then 1.4, now he’s worth 12.

Citing them means about as me citing my 4 year old.

Thinking it makes you itk is adorable.
Where did I claimed it makes me anything?

Everyone thought something was Happening so I asked a question to some who - if it was legit would have heard something.

The fact you and your band of merry losers are offended over this speaks more about you guys not me.

I’m sure it’s better if you lose your mind over paying nas $2m because you made up in your head that’s important.
 
Hey guys legit info here, I'm hearing a long term deal is immanent after last night's performance, looking like 8 years at 2mil per year, just waiting on the signature, Byrnes and his manager are meeting this evening so should know more soon 🥳
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like all of you.. I have been an anxious mess at the thought of the best player we've had in 15ys walking out the door..

I’ve got some third hand mail (that I desperately hope is true).

From the board of the club through some connections at work.

Details being finalised on a new deal after Wednesdays meeting last week.

To be announced a week after when everything is ticked off.

If it’s not true, I’ll cop all (rightful) abuse.

If it’s true, the victory lap will be insufferable.
 
I might be reaching, I don’t think I am but I think Nas is going to change the way we view super stars.

Who was the last Positionless footballer? One that could start a chain in the d50, and finish it in the front half.

He has no obvious flaw to his game, and is defying an era where the star players have raw power or size.

He goes where he wants, when he wants.

This guy could have the very same impact on our organisation that Steph Curry had on the Warriors over a decade ago.
 
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