List Mgmt. End of Year List Changes

[DustinsGuns]

Obviously there is still plenty of time to go in 2025, but I feel like it's much harder to predict the list changes than previous years. Last year we knew there was going to be a bunch of retirees and plenty of trade whispers. It's much more difficult this year.

As it stands we have picks 2 and 3. Louis Kellaway is rumoured to be a late FS pickup which means we would have to trade a future pick meaning we will have at least 3 turnovers. You'd expect there would be a 4th too if we look at much required list depth.

So who are the unfortunate souls in the gun at the end of 2025? I think a group of 3 or 4 of the following are the most likely:

Kozi: he is contracted for 2026 so could easily survive. But he hasn't been selected ahead of Miller, Young, Balta, or Gray as a KP defender this year. Providing Armstrong, Simms, Faul are fit, he won't get a game up forward either.

Bauer: an unfortunate ACL ended his season, but again his development place will be behind our young KP forwards. I think he could be a talented intercept defender, but we're not lacking in that department.

Ryan: Another who is contracted. Next year would mark his 6th year on the list. Given we have almost no ruck depth he and the fact that he is contracted, he probably survives.

Sonsie: With injuries to Lalor, Smilie, McAulliffe and HRS it has allowed Sonsie and extended go at it. He has shown a lot of improvement, but is it enough to avoid scrutiny?

Dow: Was best 22 and on the improve before injury struck him down. However he still seems a fairly limited player and has a too similar to game style to the superior Hopper, Taranto and Prestia

Blight: way too good for VFL and just a game away from an extension clause. Yet his last AFL stint was brutal after a decent start to the year and an outstanding preseason. There is no obvious role for him at AFL, however I think you have to keep him on given his dominance at the lower level.

Prestia: would be 33 round 1 and has a long list of injury history. A club champion that deserves to make his own decision.

McIntosh: 2 time premiership player, massive culture guy, great leader. Nonethless he took the last list spot this year, and whilst he has been in the 22 all year and solid, his role has been inconsistent.

Without trying to sound negative, what list changes do you see the tigers making into 2026?

 

[tiger_tough]

Smith, McIntosh, Kosi, Colina, Bauer, Dow, Blight (trade).

 

[THE_GUN]

We need 4 list spots
#3 , #4 , Kellaway , Campbell

Delist
Kosi , Bauer , Colina , Clarke , McIntosh ( retire ) Blight ( if he wants a trade )

Re Rookie
Clarke and Kosi if contracted

 

[wegetpumped]

We need 4 list spots
#3 , #4 , Kellaway , Campbell

Delist
Kosi , Bauer , Colina , Clarke , McIntosh ( retire ) Blight ( if he wants a trade )

Re Rookie
Clarke and Kosi if contracted

Kosi has another year on his contract left unless he gets a trade, which I doubt. The rest I'm fine with. Some will go crook at you with Clarke, but 3 ACLs are enough. Next season looks bright, Daffy and Leys coming on board.

 

[THE_GUN]

Kosi has another year on his contract left unless he gets a trade, which I doubt. The rest I'm fine with. Some will go crook at you with Clarke, but 3 ACLs are enough. Next season looks bright, Daffy and Leys coming on board.

We can delist contracted players and rookie list them

 

[sregit]

We need 4 list spots
#3 , #4 , Kellaway , Campbell

Delist
Kosi , Bauer , Colina , Clarke , McIntosh ( retire ) Blight ( if he wants a trade )

Re Rookie
Clarke and Kosi if contracted

Can Campbell be retained as a rookie?

 

[THE_GUN]

Can Campbell be retained as a rookie?

Only 3 years unless they played less than 10 games
2025 is his 3rd year so must be upgraded

 

[matt_y106]

We need 4 list spots
#3 , #4 , Kellaway , Campbell

Delist
Kosi , Bauer , Colina , Clarke , McIntosh ( retire ) Blight ( if he wants a trade )

Re Rookie
Clarke and Kosi if contracted

Only one I’d add is Smith to delist.

 

[panatha1908]

Because it's a poor draft we don't want more than 4 spots this year. The two top spots, kellaway and Campbell upgrade.

So to me it's McIntosh retire, Prestia too, and then is offer as freebie trades kosi and Samson. The others stay by virtue of that, and maybe even rookie kosie and Samson. Samson may have some value to Brisbane or GC as backup?

So sonsie, Judson, smith, dow, get an extra preseason, and McIntosh and prestias spots also open up. Then at the end of next year we can fairly evaluate everyone.

 

[Le RickyBobby]

Because it's a poor draft we don't want more than 4 spots this year. The two top spots, kellaway and Campbell upgrade.

So to me it's McIntosh retire, Prestia too, and then is offer as freebie trades kosi and Samson. The others stay by virtue of that, and maybe even rookie kosie and Samson. Samson may have some value to Brisbane or GC as backup?

So sonsie, Judson, smith, dow, get an extra preseason, and McIntosh and prestias spots also open up. Then at the end of next year we can fairly evaluate everyone.

Yeah its a weak draft but I'd love the option of having at least 1 SSP spot over summer to look at a Harry Scott or Raso from our VFL over holding onto a gut like Dow or Smith.

Kmac- retire
Dow- delist
Smith delist
Bauer- delist
Blight- trade bait
Colina- delist

 

[ivansarmy]

Off the main list

Delist: Smith, Dow, Mcintosh (retired) Prestia (rookie him)

Delist off the rookie list: Bauer, Colina

Trade Blight for a late pick for Kellaway

Add to the main list: Pick 3, Pick 4, Kellaway and Campbell

Re-sign: Lynch, Young, Sonsie, Gray, Hayes-Brown

Prestia may be more of a coach next year but silly not to have his pay come out of our tpp as we have millions and then we can spend our soft cap elsewhere adding an extra coach or two to assist in development of the young guys.

 

[Karp3_dm]

Why are people delisting Dow ?

He’s improved a shit load this year and just got injured at the wrong time. He had some really good games early in the season which obviously some of you have forgotten.

Def worth persisting for another year imo

 

[cairo tiger]

Why are people depositing Dow ?

He’s improved a shit load this year and just got injured at the wrong time. He had some really good games early in the season which obviously some of you have forgotten.

Def worth persisting for another year imo

hes doent give you what we need.

 

[Coach_Required]

Wonder if this is another reason why there is some talk about us trading one of our picks away. Club isn't prepared to move young players on just yet and only wants to make the minimum 3 changes than 4.

Pick 3, Campbell, Kellaway.

 

[tigers12]

Delist Samson Ryan I don’t care if he contracted
An absolute spud worst Richmond player I have ever seen up there with Ross Funke

 

[Greg Tivendale]

My thoughts are:

Kozi - Get rid of, pay his contract out etc don't care. Need him gone to free up a spot.
Dow - Trade/Delist
Ryan - Trade/Delist - Had more than enough time to prove himself.

Not sure next move from here.

I would seriously consider trading Tom Lynch to a contender, see what we can get for him and let Faull, Armstrong, Sims start working on their connection up forward. Balta can pinch hit.

Gray/Blight/Bauer/Miller/Young/Gibcus/Broad/Balta - We now have a surplus of key backs. Need to work out future and move on those who aren't. Keep Broad for experience/leadership. Likely need to be out of Gray/Blight/Bauer

Either way I think the fact it's getting a little harder to identify who to cut is a good thing for list strength.

I saw a few suggest delist Clarke, my thoughts are the bloke is a star in the making and need to persist with him.

 

[Karp3_dm]

hes doent give you what we need.

Not every player on the list has to be a star
Need some depth

 

[SleepingGiant]

Why are people delisting Dow ?

He’s improved a shit load this year and just got injured at the wrong time. He had some really good games early in the season which obviously some of you have forgotten.

Def worth persisting for another year imo

Because he is not going to be a premiership player or even good enough depth.

 

[Karp3_dm]

Because he is not going to be a premiership player or even good enough depth.

I reckon he showed enough improvement this year to warrant another year

It’s not like he’s taking anyone else’s spot on the list anyway

 

[_RT_]

Bauer - 2022 mid season rookie pick so has spent 3.5 years in the system. The ACL is unfortunate as it means he probably misses all of 2026, harsh call but I'd delist him.

Blight - had a trigger for an extension but has been left out of the senior side prior to hitting that trigger, which to me says that we believe he may be looking at heading back to WA. Hopefully we can trade him for a late pick that gives us the ability to match a mid draft bid for Kellaway should it happen.

Colina - re-rookied last year after being delisted and he probably should be moved on at seasons end as it's unlikely a 26 year old Cat B rookie is going to make it.

Dow - a tough one, I'd like to keep him, but if it helps us with list management I'd be happy with taking the risk of delisting and redrafting him depending on whether Kellaway gets to slip through to the rookie draft. With talk that we may also look at trading out of this years draft with our 2nd R1 pick, a delist/redraft play may just work.

Gray - re-sign him to the rookie list for another 12 months

Hayes-Brown - retain him as a Cat B rookie, but needs to show major improvement in 2026.

Lynch - honestly I'm not sure he warrants going around again in 2026 based on his form across the season, however his mentoring of the young KPFs & general forwards makes him an important player to keep around for at least 12 months.

McIntosh - a great club man and role players, who it would feel harsh delisting him especially if he plays every game this year. Wouldn't be against a 1 year deal on minimum chips or a delist/rookie move, but no longer can he be a mainstay of the 23 in 2026

Prestia - unlike Lynch Prestias form warrants another year, especially as an on field coach who provides leadership not just for the young mids, but also for players across the field. Another season would come with the understanding that some VFL time could be on the cards, especially if the younger mids come on.

Smith - solid enough player, but will be little more than depth moving forward, so likely to be one to receive best wishes for his future endeavors come his end of season exit meeting.

Sonsie - his last few weeks may well have saved his career, at least for another 12 months. His last month of the 2025 season will play a major role in what sort of offer he gets to re-sign, but right now I'd give him a 1 + 1 deal with a certain amount of games as one of the triggers.

Young - easy one to re-sign given his form since working his way back into the senior side. A 3 year deal would take him through to when he turns 30 and allow him to continue to develop.

Koschitzke - if he is out of contract as speculated by some, then an easy decision to wish him well for his future endeavors, if not then I'd probably keep him for 2026 rather than paying him out as I think that would leave a bad taste in the mouth of the playing group

Clarke - again I'd not like to get cute and go down the path of delist/re-draft. Just let him focus on his recovery and work his way back to playing in the 2nd half of 2026. At 22 he is young enough & talented enough to persevere with and hopefully when he returns he can show that he is still capable of being a long term option.

Ryan - I wouldn't be actively shopping him around, but if a club was to ask about him I wouldn't say he is off limits and I'd allow him to talk to the other club and then look at if the offer is good enough. We sent pick 46 to the Swans for Nankervis, Graham was traded for pick 42 & Maric cost us pick 37, so getting a pick in the 30-40 range would be a minimum, but given our lack of depth in the ruck position and Ryan being contracted for 2 more years after this I'd prefer we don't trade him

 

[voorhees]

delist - colina / Bauer
retire - macca
trade - Blight
+ could we get something for Ryan???
*anyone suggesting Clarke should be delisted,need to check themselves, kid has the talent- just bad luck, should be given the year to recover and we go from there.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

Can you delist contracted players? Not sure if the players union would allow it. Can’t remember a precedent for this, but it’s probably happened.
Kosi was a mistake, as was Ryan’s extension.
Maybe we could trade Ryan ( for a very late pick). Kosi we are stuck with.

 

[tiger_tough]

Can you delist contracted players? Not sure if the players union would allow it. Can’t remember a precedent for this, but it’s probably happened.
Kosi was a mistake, as was Ryan’s extension.
Maybe we could trade Ryan ( for a very late pick). Kosi we are stuck with.

Yeah, just gotta pay them out.

 

[cairo tiger]

Not every player on the list has to be a star
Need some depth

the reason why we keep blokes like dow is the reason we don’t progress. he’s mediocre

 

[Julio Dulio]

Does the club have any responsibility to Bauer, in regard to pay. Can you delist someone who isn’t able to work due to injury at work? Is it a work cover issue?