England v India 2025 Test Match Series June 20-August 4

[PhatBoy]

Another away team draws the series in England.

Such a dynasty tough cricket team to play…

Assuming this is sarcasm:

You realise what it’s taken for the two teams to draw those series yeah?

Australia had to win a test 8-down, got away with a draw through the rain in another and in general people walked away from that series going ‘wow that was awesome to watch I can finally get some sleep.’

Most of the people posting in this forum are neutral fans and are the same. That took an incredible sequence of fight backs from India to do the same (and some from England as well - notably the first test to chase down the target that they did).

I’m yet to see anybody say England is a dynasty, not even England themselves: I’ve heard England say they WANT to be a great side and that they think the way they play can or will save the game which is probably nonsense depending on your feelings, but they aren’t a great side. They’re a good team, not a great one. They have a win percentage almost identical to Australia’s under its current regime, with a much higher losing one. But so far this version of their team is unbeaten at home and the two teams that have earned a draw have had to put in some huge performances to do it

 

[Rabish Binney]

I still can't believe that braindead shot by Bethell in the second innings.

That should be pack your bags and never come back stuff.

Well that’s Bazball right there.

Live by the sword….

 

[kickazz]

What a finish.

Whilst I was going for India cos I can't stand Stokes or McCullum, I couldn't help but feel that if Woakes ended up facing with a few runs needed I would have been barracking for him to bring it home.

Test is best.

2-2. Deserves a decider, but deserve has got nothing to do with it.

 

[Ekomaira]

that was an insane finish. respect to Woakes

 

[Saint12]

This series right up there with the Ashes 2005 in terms of suspense.

England will do well to pinch 1 test in Australia this summer.

Agree with 2005....however reckon we are a fair bit behind England as a team. I don't see us winning at home.

 

[darcytiger]

I’d rather flog the campaigners in every test

DO NOT give them a road they are useless if it’s not.

Root will still score runs though

Never got a hundred in Australia. I really hope we can keep it that way.

 

[FreoRicci]

This series right up there with the Ashes 2005 in terms of suspense.

England will do well to pinch 1 test in Australia this summer.

Think with the players atm, wouldn’t be surprised either.
But who knows, Starc Hazlewood Boland and Cummins are still the best in the world.

 

[jackster83]

Agree with 2005....however reckon we are a fair bit behind England as a team. I don't see us winning at home.

We will crush them and it won't even be close.

Even with our dysfunctional top three, their bowling attack will be lucky to take 20 wickets in a test.

 

[davidgoes4wce]

What a finish.

Whilst I was going for India cos I can't stand Stokes or McCullum, I couldn't help but feel that if Woakes ended up facing with a few runs needed I would have been barracking for him to bring it home.

Test is best.

2-2. Deserves a decider, but deserve has got nothing to do with it.

Would have been blockbuster had their been a 6th or deciding test - for sure. (An alive rubber especially)

I reckon organizers of the Hundred (which starts in a couple of days) , ECB and BCCI would have loved a decider to determine who is the better side in English conditions at the cost of maybe reducing the white ball stuff for a week or so.

Comms saying these kind of matches great endorsement for test cricket but a need to share the love to other nations outside : Aus, India and England.

 

[010203]

Today is the last meaningful cricket played in England at the top level for the summer.

 

[PhatBoy]

I still can't believe that braindead shot by Bethell in the second innings.

That should be pack your bags and never come back stuff.

He’s 21 and has hit half centuries in his first 3 tests before this one. I think he will get a mulligan.

 

[kickazz]

Comms saying these kind of matches great endorsement for test cricket but a need to share the love to other nations outside : Aus, India and England.

We do. Maybe the two tier system would actually work, I don't know.

With all the white ball stuff it is hard getting series of five though. But I think it takes that number of tests to truly build the narrative.

 

[kickazz]

He’s 21 and has hit half centuries in his first 3 tests before this one. I think he will get a mulligan.

Damien Martyn got banished for years for a much less worse shot.

But yeah that was kind of exceptional

 

[largebus]

Agree with 2005....however reckon we are a fair bit behind England as a team. I don't see us winning at home.

We will crush them and it won't even be close.

Even with our dysfunctional top three, their bowling attack will be lucky to take 20 wickets in a test.

Result is likely in the middle of these. We'll win but it won't be a whitewash with how fragile the top order is. We'll lose one with an embarrassing collapse like today's.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Great moment for Gill

Is he their next God Tier player?

Gavaskar, Tendulkar, Kohli, Gill

Apologies Dravid

 

[DaRick]

Result is likely in the middle of these. We'll win but it won't be a whitewash with how fragile the top order is. We'll lose one with an embarrassing collapse like today's.

We are favourites, but ENG are a chance.

On paper, their batting lineup seems better, but it's flakey and AUS grounds suit BazBall less than ENG/NZ grounds do.

On paper, our bowling lineup's superior, and winning series in AUS without a decent spinner who can at least keep the runs down is a big ask. Even SA 2008/09 had Paul Harris, who despite being limited was still superior to any ENG option ATM.

EDIT: SA 2012/13 is the only exception, and their lineup was superior on paper + we were better in the first two Tests anyway. SA 2016/17 had Maharaj and a greentop for Philander in Hobart.

 

[PhatBoy]

I’d rather flog the campaigners in every test

DO NOT give them a road they are useless if it’s not.

Root will still score runs though

Have you not been watching this series? Are you THAT daft? What do this series, and the last Ashes have in common? They are the only two series they haven’t won at home under McCullum and Stokes, ie. Bazball.

They are also the two series in that time, in England, that have featured the flattest pitches.

How long until you get it?

Their BOWLING IS THEIR WEAKNESS

Teams who struggle with the ball, will struggle to win series’ on flat pitches.

Sure they might rattle up some big scores here and there, but where will they consistently get 20 wickets from?

Meanwhile they’ve bettered NZ twice - once at home and once away - on bowler friendly pitches, as well as a 1-1 away draw where - yep, you guessed it, the win was on the seam friendly pitch.
They beat SA at home on seam friendly wickets 2-1. And they did it against SL and the West Indies.

If it’s happening over a small sample size, you can maybe explain it as an anomaly. It’s not. It’s a pattern.

 

[PhatBoy]

Damien Martyn got banished for years for a much less worse shot.

But yeah that was kind of exceptional

And to a man everyone in the world knows how stupid a decision that banishment was.

 

[FreoRicci]

Who got Player of the Series? Gill of course?

 

[FreoRicci]

I still can't believe that braindead shot by Bethell in the second innings.

That should be pack your bags and never come back stuff.

He’s onto 21. BazBall has an effect.
Plus Pant has played awful horrible shots and he has gone on to be great this series

 

[davidgoes4wce]

Result is likely in the middle of these. We'll win but it won't be a whitewash with how fragile the top order is. We'll lose one with an embarrassing collapse like today's.

Aussie fans would have great joy (and belief) in winning by a fair margin. (4-0, 4-1 or 5-0).

I think : Starc, Cummins, Boland and Hazlewood will be licking their lips bowling in Perth and GABBA- traditional fast wickets.


Weather in Sydney will probably intervene.

Genuinely don't think England have got that much better since the last time when they were on these shores and lost 0-4.

 

[Bob Neil]

We won 3-1?

God you’re right! Not sure what I was getting confused about. We’re now definitely favourites for the Ashes!

 

[Lunchtime]

A very entertaining Test series. A good result for world Test cricket.

 

[PhatBoy]

Aussie fans would have great joy (and belief) in winning by a fair margin. (4-0, 4-1 or 5-0).

I think : Starc, Cummins, Boland and Hazlewood will be licking their lips bowling in Perth and GABBA- traditional fast wickets.


Weather in Sydney will probably intervene.

Genuinely don't think England have got that much better since the last time when they were on these shores and lost 0-4.

You don’t think they’ve gotten better since:

Rory Burns, Dawid Malan, Sam Billings, the Ollie Pope that batted at 6 rather than the one that averages 42 at number 3

 

[Grumpyshades]

nothing beats test cricket

great series. thought India were dead last night