List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[JackOutback]

You need to delist / trade out 12 for that including McGovern & Sheed. Then the club has no-one to delist next year. It's in essence cutting everyone not with a contract already plus Barnett.

I would be trading one or two players out to meet that number. For example, if we get Cameron, we trade out B.Williams or we J.Williams given we are pretty flush with tall forwards. The list needs a complete overhaul.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I would be trading one or two players out to meet that number. For example, if we get Cameron, we trade out B.Williams or we J.Williams given we are pretty flush with tall forwards. The list needs a complete overhaul.

Why?

I'm trading in a 30 yo to provide a stop gap that he won't be there for in 4 yrs. I am not trading out the younger 25 yo who is tracking to become exactly what that 30yo is now. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

With the 2 rules changes for next year very likely.....

1 no sub, just 5 on the bench
2 stoppage ball ups not waiting for rucks to arrive

........teams will need to play 2 rucks.

So is that cameron and Bailey or Cameron and Flynn? Who ever it isnt, plays in the WAFL as a back up ruck.

 

[eaglevision]

Why?

I'm trading in a 30 yo to provide a stop gap that he won't be there for in 4 yrs. I am not trading out the younger 25 yo who is tracking to become exactly what that 30yo is now. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

With the 2 rules changes for next year very likely.....

1 no sub, just 5 on the bench
2 stoppage ball ups not waiting for rucks to arrive

........teams will need to play 2 rucks.

So is that cameron and Bailey or Cameron and Flynn? Who ever it isnt, plays in the WAFL as a back up ruck.

Cameron as primary ruck then JWill in F50 and Archer in D50 would be magnificent.

 

[Coasters7]

I've got Duursma at 2 behind Sharp at the moment. I need to see Duursma at VFL level. Sharp and Cumming have held their own at SANFL level. At the moment, I'm taking Sharp at 1 and, if the opportunity presents, I'm splitting 2 to get Cumming and someone else highly rated ahead of selecting Duursma.

Have only seen highlights of Sharp but looked like a bit of a plodder in the sanfl ones. Handballing and contest work was good but kicking looked below average

 

[DRK_13]

Mainly because our scouts haven't identified some WA gold and they've gone to eastern states club's.

This is a key point.
Lots of WA talent has head over east from under our noses.... None of which are/were high draft picks

Trent Rivers, Judd McVee, Van Rooyen, Georgiades, Nic Martin.. to name a few.

 

[Barrybran]

Have only seen highlights of Sharp but looked like a bit of a plodder in the sanfl ones. Handballing and contest work was good but kicking looked below average

His kicking looked alright to me. Keep in mind how we're looking to play though. Sharp isn't going to be coming into our side to be the guy delivering the ball into the forward line.

 

[JackOutback]

Why?

I'm trading in a 30 yo to provide a stop gap that he won't be there for in 4 yrs. I am not trading out the younger 25 yo who is tracking to become exactly what that 30yo is now. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

With the 2 rules changes for next year very likely.....

1 no sub, just 5 on the bench
2 stoppage ball ups not waiting for rucks to arrive

........teams will need to play 2 rucks.

So is that cameron and Bailey or Cameron and Flynn? Who ever it isnt, plays in the WAFL as a back up ruck.

As eaglevision pointed out, Cameron in the ruck, one of B.Williams or J.Williams up forward, A.Reid down back. We are flush with talls and forwards, we can afford to let one of B or J Williams go to improve us in the now through Cameron, while continuing to develop for the future. And personally, I don't think B.Williams will ever develop into the player we want him to be.

Liam Ryan another trade option. Main point was, turning over 12 isn't impossible and is needed to improve us both next year and in the future.

 

[southcoast]

As eaglevision pointed out, Cameron in the ruck, one of B.Williams or J.Williams up forward, A.Reid down back. We are flush with talls and forwards, we can afford to let one of B or J Williams go to improve us in the now through Cameron, while continuing to develop for the future. And personally, I don't think B.Williams will ever develop into the player we want him to be.

Liam Ryan another trade option. Main point was, turning over 12 isn't impossible and is needed to improve us both next year and in the future.

Correct - if we want something (good/reasonable picks/trades) then we have to be prepared to give something away.

List re-generation/renewal will be accelerated with the judicious 'releasing' of some of those who may have value elsewhere.

 

[ballsohard]

I think with our NGA & FS picks this year we only need to another 3 (maybe 4?) players in the draft.
Ideally this will be 3 top 10 picks if we split, or 1,2, & Hawks 1st.
Hopefully pending afl assistance this means we can package other picks for more mature bodies, the benefit of bringing in a Darcy Cameron

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Darcy Cameron

Age

30

Ht

204cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

2.7

2star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

3.5

5star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

2.7

3star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

, jack steele

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Jack Steele

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

, or even cripps if the price is right would do wonders for our youth through the middle of the ground, and hence for our forward line opportunities as well.

 

[WCE_Phill]

Hopefully the AFL give us extra list spots and prelist NGA of the next 2 years.

This would allow us to trade our 2nd ans 3rd rounders this year and next year to either get mature talent or help upgrade to the top 20

This is help without the AFL world losing thier shit

 

[Goroyals22]

As eaglevision pointed out, Cameron in the ruck, one of B.Williams or J.Williams up forward, A.Reid down back. We are flush with talls and forwards, we can afford to let one of B or J Williams go to improve us in the now through Cameron, while continuing to develop for the future. And personally, I don't think B.Williams will ever develop into the player we want him to be.

Liam Ryan another trade option. Main point was, turning over 12 isn't impossible and is needed to improve us both next year and in the future.

You would have to let Bailey go to whoever would be mildly interested in him. How Mini has prioritised him over Jack Williams development is one of his biggest mistakes.. one bloke can play and has huge upside , the other is no more competitive than a bollard.

 

[bzparkes]

You would have to let Bailey go to whoever would be mildly interested in him. How Mini has prioritised him over Jack Williams development is one of his biggest mistakes.. one bloke can play and has huge upside , the other is no more a competitive than a bollard.

JWill might want to start by getting more than 3 touches a week in the WAFL first.

 

[eaglevision]

As eaglevision pointed out, Cameron in the ruck, one of B.Williams or J.Williams up forward, A.Reid down back. We are flush with talls and forwards, we can afford to let one of B or J Williams go to improve us in the now through Cameron, while continuing to develop for the future. And personally, I don't think B.Williams will ever develop into the player we want him to be.

Liam Ryan another trade option. Main point was, turning over 12 isn't impossible and is needed to improve us both next year and in the future.

Further to this hopefully once Cameron is done, Archer and JW are big and strong enough to handle the ruck duties between them

 

[ThePuma #9]

Kind of wondering what St Kilda would give us for pick 1. Probably not worth it for us but after their comments earlier this year it would be funny to see them place three or four sequential bids with the top pick. Really hammer home the bullshit.

It’s funny you mention that because if the AFL do not assist us and we don’t end up doing any deals with either LIons or GC I am all for nominating 3 of their kids and slipping back to pick 4.

The optics of it would infuriate the AFL and show how truly compromised the draft really is.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

It’s funny you mention that because if the AFL do not assist us and we don’t end up doing any deals with either LIons or GC I am all for nominating 3 of their kids and slipping back to pick 4.

The optics of it would infuriate the AFL and show how truly compromised the draft really is.

Throw in a Max King bid for shits and giggles as well.

 

[woosha24]

Concerns about Sharp being a plodder?

Good handball and contested work, but shonky kicking?

Sounds like a future Brownlow medalist to me.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

As eaglevision pointed out, Cameron in the ruck, one of B.Williams or J.Williams up forward, A.Reid down back. We are flush with talls and forwards, we can afford to let one of B or J Williams go to improve us in the now through Cameron, while continuing to develop for the future. And personally, I don't think B.Williams will ever develop into the player we want him to be.

Liam Ryan another trade option. Main point was, turning over 12 isn't impossible and is needed to improve us both next year and in the future.

Have you not seen how most tall key position players in this league aren't durable? J Williams and Flynn can play WAFL as back ups JUST like what happens in every other team. Strong clubs have players in there reserves good enough to be in seniors but can't get a look in. Busslinger is great example of the riches of talls the dogs have. Don't give away talls unless it's for pick 2

 

[Donkers]

It’s funny you mention that because if the AFL do not assist us and we don’t end up doing any deals with either LIons or GC I am all for nominating 3 of their kids and slipping back to pick 4.

The optics of it would infuriate the AFL and show how truly compromised the draft really is.

The problem being you'd end up with Patterson as I doubt a match would be forthcoming. Annable and Uwland sure but I doubt GCS match at say pick 3 on Patterson. Swans surely wouldn't match on King on any bid below 10 at this stage.

 

[Bradis]

The problem being you'd end up with Patterson as I doubt a match would be forthcoming. Annable and Uwland sure but I doubt GCS match at say pick 3 on Patterson. Swans surely wouldn't match on King on any bid below 10 at this stage.

I think landing Patterson with our first after bids would be a great pickup, super quick outside player with great skills. Actually would be one of my preferred picks if open draft. Balance him with Sharp as the inside ball and first hands on distributor. The issue I think with us having 1 and 2 is that we need one of Uwland, Annable or Patterson and none are available as the outside mid.

I honestly would love to see WC bid on those three as the first three picks if we cannot arrange complimentary deals with GC and Brisbane to land Davies, Dev and potentially GC first round pick.

I think Sydney will trade out their first rounder for a future first knowing they can bring King in with points. Definitely a risk though that they may not match at pick four.

 

[WCE777]

Have you not seen how most tall key position players in this league aren't durable? J Williams and Flynn can play WAFL as back ups JUST like what happens in every other team. Strong clubs have players in there reserves good enough to be in seniors but can't get a look in. Busslinger is great example of the riches of talls the dogs have. Don't give away talls unless it's for pick 2

this.
We need depth across lines playing in the WAFL.
The problem is we have very little and kids.
JW will be fine even if he becomes a FWD/RUCK backup, Bazzo fills the same role, not superstars but solid depth.
The biggest problem with the WC list is the absolute emptiness of much talent across our WAFL side in most positions.
This is going to take a few years, sifting through kids to see where they sit, trading in role players and depth.
This list is probably 3 draft/trade periods short of being decent.
Get aggressive in 2025 as much as we can, do the same in 2026 and we will start to resemble a competitive AFL list.
Get aggressive 2027 and bring home some WA born talent, Warner, Rivers, Fonti, Martin, Garcia etc.

 

[eagles rule]

JWill might want to start by getting more than 3 touches a week in the WAFL first.

I’m beginning to think JW won’t make it , he needs to really improve his endurance and mobility..He doesn’t seem hungry enough to go after the key role..

 

[Elite Pete]

The problem being you'd end up with Patterson as I doubt a match would be forthcoming. Annable and Uwland sure but I doubt GCS match at say pick 3 on Patterson. Swans surely wouldn't match on King on any bid below 10 at this stage.

I’d take Patterson + Sharp/Duursma at the top 2

 

[Donkers]

I think landing Patterson with our first after bids would be a great pickup, super quick outside player with great skills. Actually would be one of my preferred picks if open draft. Balance him with Sharp as the inside ball and first hands on distributor. The issue I think with us having 1 and 2 is that we need one of Uwland, Annable or Patterson and none are available as the outside mid.

I honestly would love to see WC bid on those three as the first three picks if we cannot arrange complimentary deals with GC and Brisbane to land Davies, Dev and potentially GC first round pick.

I think Sydney will trade out their first rounder for a future first knowing they can bring King in with points. Definitely a risk though that they may not match at pick four.

I'd take Lindsay over Patterson personally.

I have Annable at this stage number 1 in the pool and it's not close. I think if Uwland comes back from injury and dominates they are a clear 1,2 before you look at the rest of the pool.

 

[bzparkes]

Concerns about Sharp being a plodder?

Good handball and contested work, but shonky kicking?

Sounds like a future Brownlow medalist to me.

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People complain about his kicking but it's not even that bad. He's accurate and can roost it a fair way, as well as hit short targets.

He's no Jordan Dawson but his kicking's fine, if a tad loopy.

 

[Farang83150]

Who says/has Sharp slipping as far as 6?