List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[JackOutback]

Have you not seen how most tall key position players in this league aren't durable? J Williams and Flynn can play WAFL as back ups JUST like what happens in every other team. Strong clubs have players in there reserves good enough to be in seniors but can't get a look in. Busslinger is great example of the riches of talls the dogs have. Don't give away talls unless it's for pick 2

List balance is vital... the more talls we have sitting in the reserves, the less mids we have (and we need more of them) or less shots at finding a genuine gun we get. If we get Cameron, you can't have all of Flynn, B.Williams, J.Williams, A.Reid, J.Shanahan, H.Barnett, C Livingstone behind him vying for one or two spots. Trading one doesn't destroy your depth but it gives us more chance of unearthing the talent we need and getting the balance right.

Now, the ideal situation is we get a couple of extra list spots and we can accommodate the players we need while retaining both Williams, but if not, tough decisions should be made.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Patterson is ranked at 13 in the latest ESPN rankings https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...-power-rankings-top-30-extended-depth-quality

If you've bid for Annable and Uwland first, then used our first pick, it's pick 4 you're bidding on him with, that's close enough that GC will match regardless. They've loaded up with three first rounders this year for this very purpose. They'll convert those three into a stack of picks and points to use.

 

[bzparkes]

Who says/has Sharp slipping as far as 6?

Twomey but that's in his form guide, not phantom draft.

Having said that, WCE seem the most likely to go for Sharp out of the top few clubs.

We're in dire need of his type, whereas Tigers picked up Smillie last year.

Essendon maybe? They need more X-factor and high ceiling players though. They have enough of his type, even if he may end up better.

Saints possibly but can see them going for Phillipou to pair up with his brother, if Essendon don't. They may favour Greeves instead though, especially if NWM signs on/Essendon go for Phillipou. They need a big bodied mid in there, especially with Steele on the outer.

Hawthorn don't really need him, based on what they've already got. They need a dynamic mid, or may favour an elite kick off HB, Lyndsay would probably suit.

GC obviously don't need his type and their pick will get eaten up by bids anyway.

When you think about it, looking at the teams between our first pick and Hawks first, he could potentially even last until them, as those teams don't really have a pressing need for his type and just depends if they see him as best available or not.

It's no reflection on his skill, ability or leadership, it's just those teams have a lot of the same.

 

[RanaNaved]

Patterson at 13? Lol

 

[suntagonal]

Out of the box thinking -

Contact Brisbane and Gold Coast (possibly Syd) - tell that that we will be bidding on Patterson, Annable and Uwland (and possibly King) at 1, 2 and 3/4. We can do a pick trade in our favour to avoid having their player called out with '#1'. In sense a blind auction.

A big middle finger to all of em.

 

[RanaNaved]

I say we make it a farcical spectacle and bid on Zeke at 1, Annable at 2 and Patterson at 3.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

List balance is vital... the more talls we have sitting in the reserves, the less mids we have (and we need more of them) or less shots at finding a genuine gun we get. If we get Cameron, you can't have all of Flynn, B.Williams, J.Williams, A.Reid, J.Shanahan, H.Barnett, C Livingstone behind him vying for one or two spots. Trading one doesn't destroy your depth but it gives us more chance of unearthing the talent we need and getting the balance right.

Now, the ideal situation is we get a couple of extra list spots and we can accommodate the players we need while retaining both Williams, but if not, tough decisions should be made.

Shanahan and waterman forward

Cameron B Williams rucks

Reid Edwards down back

Barnett Livingstone gonski delist

Leaves flynn and JWilliams in the WAFL as back up for when injuries happen and mini has to throw around the magnets.

 

[JackOutback]

Shanahan and waterman forward

Cameron B Williams rucks

Reid Edwards down back

Barnett Livingstone gonski delist

Leaves flynn and JWilliams in the WAFL as back up for when injuries happen and mini has to throw around the magnets.

Brock, Bazzo as well down back. Personally, I think B.Williams will never be the player we want him to be but is also the only one alongside J.Williams that might have some value. So trade one of them, fill a bigger area of need, likely Barnett has to stay for one more year because of his contract status. Or delist Bazzo or trade Ryan. Either way, we can turn over 12 players this year and I really think we need to.

 

[Farang83150]

Twomey but that's in his form guide, not phantom draft.

Having said that, WCE seem the most likely to go for Sharp out of the top few clubs.

We're in dire need of his type, whereas Tigers picked up Smillie last year.

Essendon maybe? They need more X-factor and high ceiling players though. They have enough of his type, even if he may end up better.

Saints possibly but can see them going for Phillipou to pair up with his brother, if Essendon don't. They may favour Greeves instead though, especially if NWM signs on/Essendon go for Phillipou. They need a big bodied mid in there, especially with Steele on the outer.

Hawthorn don't really need him, based on what they've already got. They need a dynamic mid, or may favour an elite kick off HB, Lyndsay would probably suit.

GC obviously don't need his type and their pick will get eaten up by bids anyway.

When you think about it, looking at the teams between our first pick and Hawks first, he could potentially even last until them, as those teams don't really have a pressing need for his type and just depends if they see him as best available or not.

It's no reflection on his skill, ability or leadership, it's just those teams have a lot of the same.

So going with the above a split of pic 2 with the Dons could well be on the cards then I guess.
Sharp and Dursma would be nice.

 

[southcoast]

Brock, Bazzo as well down back. Personally, I think B.Williams will never be the player we want him to be but is also the only one alongside J.Williams that might have some value. So trade one of them, fill a bigger area of need, likely Barnett has to stay for one more year because of his contract status. Or delist Bazzo or trade Ryan. Either way, we can turn over 12 players this year and I really think we need to.

If WCE see no future in Barnett - pay him out this year.

Otherwise he just occupies a space we could use on drafts, trades and NGAs. Likely more likelihood of success if we throw this toy out of the cot.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

Eagles are the nice guys of the AFL, they won't be threatening anyone with bids or the PSD.
We not only trade fairly, but in fact try to help other clubs out at our own expense. 2024 trade farce proved as much.

 

[eaglevision]

An article linking us to Mitch Duncan, one year plus coaching. UFA.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

An article linking us to Mitch Duncan, one year plus coaching. UFA.

Yeah I saw an article a few weeks back and posted in the Mini thread...only mentioned him as a coaching role though. This article says a year playing, too? Could you throw a link up?

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Eagles are the nice guys of the AFL, they won't be threatening anyone with bids or the PSD.
We not only trade fairly, but in fact try to help other clubs out at our own expense. 2024 trade farce proved as much.

For all the criticism Hawthorn copped last year for the dishonesty in shafting us with the Barrass trade, come trade week this year everybody except us will have forgotten about it and it won't create any hesitation from other clubs to trade with them. They will pay no penalty for it at all. So what is the point of being transparent and fair with other clubs in trade deals when that is the case?

 

[TerryFilk]

The problem being you'd end up with Patterson as I doubt a match would be forthcoming. Annable and Uwland sure but I doubt GCS match at say pick 3 on Patterson. Swans surely wouldn't match on King on any bid below 10 at this stage.

Lol what? The Suns would match a bid for Patterson no matter where it came, he’s a freak. Addinsall is the gettable one of their guys if you’re willing to bid on him early, which I’d consider if we split. He’s going under the radar.

 

[Jukes]

Anyone been brave enough to venture onto the Tigers board? Who do they want with Pick 3 and 4?

 

[TerryFilk]

Who says/has Sharp slipping as far as 6?

I think it’s possible

Richmond don’t need that archetype, I’m not sure St Kilda would pick him over going local especially if NAS requests out, Essendon do not need Sharp either.

Although if either of those clubs just view him as BPA then of course they may take him.

 

[TerryFilk]

Anyone been brave enough to venture onto the Tigers board? Who do they want with Pick 3 and 4?

Lindsay and Grlj seem to be the guys they love, but I think they are also assuming we take Willem which I unfortunately do not think we will.

 

[Elite Pete]

Yeah I saw an article a few weeks back and posted in the Mini thread...only mentioned him as a coaching role though. This article says a year playing, too? Could you throw a link up?

It’s in here, saying the extra list spots we might get so can add players like Duncan at no real cost and they can help raise to floor and develop the kids.

Suns also linked to McCreery.

Ryan might ever well have some interest for the Pies if Bobby and Beau leave. Flyin for Cameron and we pay some of his last contract.

 

[Grahame]

Lets get senior player X from a Melbourne based team. Surely no other Melbourne based team will be interested in him.

Yep. Let’s only recruit from the WA teams.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

An article linking us to Mitch Duncan, one year plus coaching. UFA.

this is just the kind of mistake the Eagles make. He hardly plays midfield anymore and we need a senior mid full time.
I love the guy but Mitch is well past it. His disposal count is not what we need. We need an experienced 25-30 possession winner each week type of player. Just a ball getter.

Get Mitch as a coach in a few years and thats cool but we don't need his on field deeds now.

 

[Elite Pete]

Lets get senior player X from a Melbourne based team. Surely no other Melbourne based team will be interested in him.

I don’t think there will be much interest from other teams in Duncan, Tom Mitchell and Steele. Most teams have decent depth in the midfield and don’t have 4 x 20-22yo being their main mids.

 

[Goroyals22]

An article linking us to Mitch Duncan, one year plus coaching. UFA.

Mitch Duncan hey? Maybe we should get gerrick weedon instead…. Again

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I don’t think there will be much interest from other teams in Duncan, Tom Mitchell and Steele. Most teams have decent depth in the midfield and don’t have 4 x 20-22yo being their main mids.

If we can't get Davies, Steele would be a good stop gap. But we really need to target 22-26yo players which is why the starcevish talk is all around

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Yep. Let’s only recruit from the WA teams.

Unforch it's hard to interest players to come over here if they not already from WA.

Concerning thing is:

• WA are producing less draftees per capita than SA & VIC and falling
• The WA talent that do get drafted are falling in quality
• All clubs get to pick over the WA draft pool
• Once drafted interstate, it's a struggle getting WA talent back.
• The few WA players that do get drafted represent our best option at trading a player in/gaining a free agent.
• The top end Vic talent we bring in face constant speculation as to "when they're coming home"