Opinion Non-Crows AFL 13: Offseason

[SugarShane]

Did they get lucky that we missed our first 6 shots?
It’s like looking at free in the last qtr and saying it cost the game.

Thank you. Sick of the "we shouldn't have won" rhetoric around that game.

We didn't deserve to win and we got lucky they couldn't kick. But somehow they weren't lucky and deserved to win despite our first quarter being a mirror of their 4th.

We were lucky to hold on to the lead. Ok, but we had the lead. Thanks to a dominant early 4th quarter performance.

 

[Peter Doherty]

If the goal umpire didn't **** up we would have played finals - Excuse

If Rankine was paid a free we would have beaten GC - Excuse

If Brisbane kicked straight they would have won - Excuse

 

[DJ75]

Pies at home on Thursday, us in Perth as the late Sunday game. You couldn't make this stuff up.

I've been saying it all year. We are getting shafted when we play other contenders. It's not an accident that this keeps happening.

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

They were 1-5 and 15th according to the AFL website ladder backdating functionality

Check the 2017 fixtures. They were 0-6.

My mates and I went to Hobart for a boys trip and an easy kill. I can guarantee you that we were 6-0 and they were 0-6. We were also 64 points down at quarter time.

I also checked and Sydney also lost their first 6 matches so they may have been lower on %.

AI ain’t what it used to be!

 

[skam85]

Check the 2017 fixtures. They were 0-6.

My mates and I went to Hobart for a boys trip and an easy kill. I can guarantee you that we were 6-0 and they were 0-6. We were also 64 points down at quarter time.

I also checked and Sydney also lost their first 6 matches so they may have been lower on %.

AI ain’t what it used to be!

they were 1-5.

 

[119others]

Check the 2017 fixtures. They were 0-6.

My mates and I went to Hobart for a boys trip and an easy kill. I can guarantee you that we were 6-0 and they were 0-6. We were also 64 points down at quarter time.

I also checked and Sydney also lost their first 6 matches so they may have been lower on %.

AI ain’t what it used to be!

just go into the ladder on afl.com.au and change 2025 to 2017. and change to round 6 and it shows the ladder at the time

 

[jo172]

Check the 2017 fixtures. They were 0-6.

My mates and I went to Hobart for a boys trip and an easy kill. I can guarantee you that we were 6-0 and they were 0-6. We were also 64 points down at quarter time.

I also checked and Sydney also lost their first 6 matches so they may have been lower on %.

AI ain’t what it used to be!

They'd won one game and were 15th.

Had Brisbane and Hawthorn on percentage and Sydney hadn't won a game.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

I fear Geelong the most out of those teams

I actually fear them the least tbh, they play exactly the type of game style that we love to come up against. No doubt we win that Gather Round game if it’s played now.

 

[cleanhands]

I actually fear them the least tbh, they play exactly the type of game style that we love to come up against. No doubt we win that Gather Round game if it’s played now.

As long as Stewart doesn’t play

 

[PeterSalt]

Just been watching a few replays of the Howe vs Newcombe

I just found it interesting that Newcombe stopped watching the ball for about the last 3 steps and seems to turn slightly side on to Howe

 

[kirky]

Missing players like Hill and McCreey who have great leg speed. Howe in defense

Apparently up until a week or so ago were on massive training loads. Might explain why they looked like they were running in mud

Seems late to be doing that though?

McCreery is an interesting one - he only gets 10 or so disposals a game but obviously important from a structure point of view.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Just been watching a few replays of the Howe vs Newcombe

I just found it interesting that Newcombe stopped watching the ball for about the last 3 steps and seems to turn slightly side on to Howe

Newcombe doesn't take any protective action which I find most interesting. Hasn't elected to bump but probably has the most duty of care given that he was running in the same direction as the ball.

 

[Geoffa32]

Check the 2017 fixtures. They were 0-6.

My mates and I went to Hobart for a boys trip and an easy kill. I can guarantee you that we were 6-0 and they were 0-6. We were also 64 points down at quarter time.

I also checked and Sydney also lost their first 6 matches so they may have been lower on %.

AI ain’t what it used to be!

Got stuck into the Larp in Tassie?

Wiped your memory of that weekend.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Anyone think that Brad Scott wouldn't risk threatening his brother's top 4 position by winning tonight?

 

[Cromulant]

Anyone think that Brad Scott wouldn't risk threatening his brother's top 4 position by winning tonight?

He couldnt risk it even if he tried.

They could well get beaten by 150+ tonight.

 

[PeterSalt]

Newcombe doesn't take any protective action which I find most interesting. Hasn't elected to bump but probably has the most duty of care given that he was running in the same direction as the ball.

Yeah, it's an interesting 1 .. this angle in slow-mo doesn't look great

Kind of looks like he actually chose to make front on contact. He had no intention of winning the ball

I recall last night some folk on the main board saying he was trying to tackle. Doesn't much look like it in this footage

 

[Geoffa32]

Just been watching a few replays of the Howe vs Newcombe

I just found it interesting that Newcombe stopped watching the ball for about the last 3 steps and seems to turn slightly side on to Howe

To protect himself.

This is the issue with AFL


All through junior Footy you teach kids to protect yourself first. Yes players take their eyes off the ball, to see where other players are. And yes they turn their body to make contact with bum to shoulder or brace themselves.

In this instance Newcombe saw Howe coming and turned to protect himself. If he kep his body open, the incident could have been worse.

Footy accident. Nothing more.

 

[FR0GGY]

We aren’t suspending Newcombe for that guys come on.

 

[PeterSalt]

To protect himself.

This is the issue with AFL


All through junior Footy you teach kids to protect yourself first. Yes players take their eyes off the ball, to see where other players are. And yes they turn their body to make contact with bump to shoulder or brace themselves.

In this instance Newcombe saw Howe coming and turned to protect himself. If he kep his body open, the incident could have been worse.

Footy accident. Nothing more.

To be clear, I'm not saying he should be sanctioned

I am questioning his motivation - it clearly wasn't the ball based on his last 3-4 steps

 

[Geoffa32]

Yeah, it's an interesting 1 .. this angle in slow-mo doesn't look great

Kind of looks like he actually chose to make front on contact. He had no intention of winning the ball

I recall last night some folk on the main board saying he was trying to tackle. Doesn't much look like it in this footage

Howe instigates contact by going through the contest to win it.

Looks to me like Newcombe caught out at Howe quick Howe is through the contest.

Neither guy trying to hurt the other.

 

[MatthewB]

Newcombe changes direction slightly aswell, he went to tackle Howe but Howe was quicker

 

[GameofSloanes]

Just been watching a few replays of the Howe vs Newcombe

I just found it interesting that Newcombe stopped watching the ball for about the last 3 steps and seems to turn slightly side on to Howe

Noticed that too.
Guarantee if it was peatling he'd get 3 weeks
Not saying he SHOULD, Im saying he WOULD

 

[kirky]

How does this guy pull these facts out? AI?

Well we haven’t sat top of the leader very often.

 

[GameofSloanes]

He couldnt risk it even if he tried.

They could well get beaten by 150+ tonight.

Sturt would beat essendon easily

 

[cmndstab]

How does this guy pull these facts out? AI?

Pulling the facts out is pretty easy if you've got a database and rudimentary knowledge of how to write a decent query.

The bigger question is where he gets his ideas from, which I assume is a combination of good intuition, following the latest stories, and input from subscribers.

90% of data mining is just about having good instincts for what to search for.