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Not sure he is that type of player although I'd take that.
Not every player needs to do everything. That's the problem we have at our club because we either expect players to do everything or we play players that do absolutely nothing. It's quite important these days to have role players which is why I think Barrett should be developed as a pressure forward who causes chaos. We need to give him a couple years to see how his development goes.
He's quick enough but I'm not sure that's what he'll be good at. Looks about as likely as putting on a big tackle as Neade.
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See Nick Blakey.
It's super obvious that sons of triple premiership captains, for example, should not be captured by NSW/Queensland academies. It's similarly super obvious that sons of a player of Fijian heritage who moved to Australia as a child and played 185 games across three clubs, for example, should not be NGA prospects. But the AFL treat us all like imbeciles and just wave all of this nonsense through.
Rorts on rorts.
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From Hodge's Brisbane days and still lives there, his boys have played most of their juniors up there. it is a joke but also F*** Hawthorn haha
NGA's only exist so the northern states don't draft Vic kids but AFL then give Vic clubs the same deal because it worked for them.
I have no issue if Hawthorn get screwed over Hodge.
I have no issue if Hawthorn get screwed over Hodge.
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A bit of the old Maurice Rioli jnr about him perhaps?
Precisely who I was thinking too.
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get rid of it AFTER we get Pilot, Dougie Cochrane, Salopek, Rodan etc.
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If you removed the obvious rorts (Rodan, Hodge, Blakey being in academies), removed the discounts, tighten NGA qualification, it wouldn’t be a bad system.
Clubs would be encouraged to spend on talent development - an area that the AFL might have to help equalise funding in.
But under that system clubs wouldn’t be able to trade in everyone and draft everyone all at once. You would have to pay a price.
I would say port’s issue has been that we’ve generally paid market value for drafts and trades. Mead and Jones went high. Luko, Sav etc cost a lot. Sinn and Berry cost etc to make sure we got them.
Meanwhile Nick Daicos got to pick four, Sam Darcy was two. Carlton should be able to nab a top ten pick and another first rounder (Dean). Brisbane barely paid for the two Ashcrofts and Fletcher. Geelong got pick 7 and Bowes. Collingwood received a first rounder for Noble.
The other way to speed up equalisation would be to start the draft at pick 11. By that I mean picks 1-10 are for the bottom 10 teams. It resets at 11. So west coast would have picks 1 and 11. The premiers would end up with pick 28.
Would mean the bottom 10 clubs recover faster and that the top sides have less to trade and draft with. Brisbane could still get Ashcroft but they would have to give up more to get the picks. Would also remove the ridiculous priority pick chat.
Clubs would be encouraged to spend on talent development - an area that the AFL might have to help equalise funding in.
But under that system clubs wouldn’t be able to trade in everyone and draft everyone all at once. You would have to pay a price.
I would say port’s issue has been that we’ve generally paid market value for drafts and trades. Mead and Jones went high. Luko, Sav etc cost a lot. Sinn and Berry cost etc to make sure we got them.
Meanwhile Nick Daicos got to pick four, Sam Darcy was two. Carlton should be able to nab a top ten pick and another first rounder (Dean). Brisbane barely paid for the two Ashcrofts and Fletcher. Geelong got pick 7 and Bowes. Collingwood received a first rounder for Noble.
The other way to speed up equalisation would be to start the draft at pick 11. By that I mean picks 1-10 are for the bottom 10 teams. It resets at 11. So west coast would have picks 1 and 11. The premiers would end up with pick 28.
Would mean the bottom 10 clubs recover faster and that the top sides have less to trade and draft with. Brisbane could still get Ashcroft but they would have to give up more to get the picks. Would also remove the ridiculous priority pick chat.
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Sam Cumming looks a jet and the exact type we could use.
Dahlitz has a great kick, surprised there isn’t more interest. Maybe a rookie chance?
Dahlitz has a great kick, surprised there isn’t more interest. Maybe a rookie chance?
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Not sure how to fix the compo pick because the AFL will never release the herbs and spices of the formula but regarding all the F/S, NGA and Northern Academies, remove the discount completely and make clubs fully paid the price to acquire such talent.
Clubs having first access to them should be enough and to further tighten it, clubs must have the required amount meaning clubs cannot go into deficits whatsoever. No exceptions. If a club needs another 50 points to successfully match the bid and they can't do it, bad luck then.
If I'm putting on my Port cap on for a moment, I want them changing the bidding rules after 2027 draft.
Dahlitz goes in the ND imo, would be good replacement for Burton.
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September 2019 AFL announces Gold Coast priority picks spread out over 3 drafts. Their previous 4 full seasons
2016 15th 6-16 78.22%
2017 17th 6-16 75.98%
2018 17th 4-18 59.95%
2019 18th 3-19 60.53%
www.goldcoastfc.com.au
Priority Picks
The provision of draft picks for the next 3 years (reviewable annually), including the first pick in the 2019 AFL Draft.
The Gold Coast SUNS will also receive expanded academy player access for 3 years including:
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Edit This is where those priority picks were used.
So it took 5 years after the priorities handed out before GC won 10+ games and 6 years to make the finals - assuming they make it winning 2 of their last 3 games.
September 2022 North Melbourne get 2 Priority Picks for the 2023 draft, but had to be traded out in 2022. So approx pick 23 and 43 in 2023. Their previous 4 full seasons
2019 12th 10-12 99.45%
2020 17th 3-14 71.20% COVID season
2021 18th 4-1-17 70.27%
2022 18th 2-20 55.78%
www.afl.com.au
NORTH Melbourne has received two future draft picks for next year as part of their assistance package from the AFL, but they must be traded out as the League hopes to fast-track the Kangaroos' rebuild with experience.
The AFL has given the Kangaroos a second-round pick and third-round pick for 2023 on the proviso they are traded for at least one player, as well as granting the Roos TWO EXTRA LIST SPOTS, which AFL.com.au revealed last month was a key part of their pitch to headquarters.
The extra selections won't carry into 2023 for North Melbourne if they are not traded this year, but will be tied to North's finishing position next year for whoever ends up with them, creating a marketplace for rival clubs to take them from the Roos.
In September 2023, North Melbourne got 3 more priority picks over 2 drafts.
2023 17th 3-20 71.48%
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North Melbourne will receive three extra end-of-first round draft selections spread over two years as part of an assistance package determined by the AFL Commission on Monday.
The League confirmed North Melbourne will receive the following:
They didn't get extra picks in 2024. They didn't ask for any and they finished 17th 3-20 63.70%
West Coast's last 4 seasons
2022 17th 2-20 59.82%
2023 18th 3-20 53.03%
2024 16th 5-18 68.10%
2025 18th 1-21 63.04% - have secured the wooden spoon.
West Coast have been worse than the above 2 sides, the 4 seasons before their first assistance draft. The $60m cash and investments WCE have is useless to getting better players when you have a salary cap and a soft cap tax that their overlords the WAFC - sorry that WA Football since February - probably will stop them from blowing the soft cap by $700k-$1mil on extra development coaches and get a tax bill of between $500k and $750k in 2026.
I don't have a problem if they get an end of Rd 1 or start of Rd 2 pick which either way is somewhere between pick 20 and 25 after free agency compo picks and before matching bids. A Rd 3 pick would be about pick 40-45. They should definitely get that.
I reckon as a minimum they should be allowed 5 extra rookie spots which gives them the chance to find another Tom McCarthy or more, like they did in this year's mid season draft, but it lets them take some 21 to 25 year olds who would as a minimum strengthen their WAFL side which this year has been smashed again when they get a lot of injuries and have to use 10+ top up players. These extra 21 to 25 years would aid development of the kids on the main list. In the WAFL they have a 2-14 record and 65% in 2025 and were 4-14 and 57% in 2024.
The exact same situation we see with the Magpies for big chunks of a season when our injury list is long.
The wealthy Vic clubs in the early '00's got pre Rd 1 priority picks if they won 5 games or less.
The Hawks got picks 2 (priority) and 5 in 2004 after only 1 bad year that got them Roughead and Franklin that paid dividends for over a decade.
Collingwood in 2005 after only 5 wins in 2005 after back to back GF's in 2002-03 and got picks 2 (priority) and 5 and took Dale Thomas and Pendlebury. Imagine if Collingwood didn't get a priority pick and only got Thomas. They might not have won a flag in 2023. These extra picks really pay off about a decade or more after they are handed out. They aren't an instant fix.
Something a little radical if the AFL gave them no picks because all the other clubs said they are too wealthy, then maybe give them $1mil to spend outside the soft cap to spend solely on development coaches and have the best development coaches to try and fast track development of players and get them out of the shit. That $1mil gets cut back after they win X number of games.
There is no point having a very poor WCE for years to come, as it just distorts the FIXture even further, when teams get to play them twice a year.
2016 15th 6-16 78.22%
2017 17th 6-16 75.98%
2018 17th 4-18 59.95%
2019 18th 3-19 60.53%
AFL outline assistance package
The AFL has today announced that the AFL Commission has approved an assistance package to be provided to the Gold Coast SUNS.
Priority Picks
The provision of draft picks for the next 3 years (reviewable annually), including the first pick in the 2019 AFL Draft.
- Pick #1 and first pick of the second round (currently pick #20) in the 2019 NAB AFL Draft.
- Mid-first round pick (currently pick #11) in the 2020 NAB AFL Draft.
- First pick of the second round (currently pick #19) in the 2021 NAB AFL Draft.
The Gold Coast SUNS will also receive expanded academy player access for 3 years including:
- Provision of the Darwin region as an academy zone.
- Ability to pre-sign Gold Coast SUNS academy players (including those from Darwin) without bidding.
- Increased rookie list, up to 10 players
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Edit This is where those priority picks were used.
- 2019 Pick 1 (pre Rd 1 pick) drafted Matt Rowell and then took Noah Anderson with 1st pick of Rd 1.
- 2019 pick 22 was traded on draft night to Carlton to get pick 11 which got GC Sam Flanders. Others picks were traded.
- 2020 pick 15 - GC traded that at 2019 2nd draft night to Geelong for pick 27 and drafted Jeremy Sharp from East Freo. Sharp played 23 games fro GC between 2020-23 traded to Freo and has played 37 games for Freo since 2024.
- 2021 pick 21 traded for Will Brodie and other picks for Freo's 2020 F2 and F4. That Freo F2 helped them get Ben Long from St Kilda in 2022.
So it took 5 years after the priorities handed out before GC won 10+ games and 6 years to make the finals - assuming they make it winning 2 of their last 3 games.
September 2022 North Melbourne get 2 Priority Picks for the 2023 draft, but had to be traded out in 2022. So approx pick 23 and 43 in 2023. Their previous 4 full seasons
2019 12th 10-12 99.45%
2020 17th 3-14 71.20% COVID season
2021 18th 4-1-17 70.27%
2022 18th 2-20 55.78%
North granted extra draft picks, list spots by the AFL
North Melbourne has been given two future draft picks from the AFL, but they must be traded out this year
www.afl.com.au
NORTH Melbourne has received two future draft picks for next year as part of their assistance package from the AFL, but they must be traded out as the League hopes to fast-track the Kangaroos' rebuild with experience.
The AFL has given the Kangaroos a second-round pick and third-round pick for 2023 on the proviso they are traded for at least one player, as well as granting the Roos TWO EXTRA LIST SPOTS, which AFL.com.au revealed last month was a key part of their pitch to headquarters.
The extra selections won't carry into 2023 for North Melbourne if they are not traded this year, but will be tied to North's finishing position next year for whoever ends up with them, creating a marketplace for rival clubs to take them from the Roos.
In September 2023, North Melbourne got 3 more priority picks over 2 drafts.
2023 17th 3-20 71.48%
Club statement: AFL assistance package
North Melbourne will receive three extra end-of-first round draft selections spread over two years as part of an assistance package determined by the AFL Commission
North Melbourne will receive three extra end-of-first round draft selections spread over two years as part of an assistance package determined by the AFL Commission on Monday.
The League confirmed North Melbourne will receive the following:
- One end-of-first round selection in the 2023 AFL Draft (currently pick 19)
- Two end-of-first round selections in the 2024 AFL Draft (currently picks 19 and 20)
- The continuation of the club’s ability to have two additional rookie list spots in season 2024
They didn't get extra picks in 2024. They didn't ask for any and they finished 17th 3-20 63.70%
West Coast's last 4 seasons
2022 17th 2-20 59.82%
2023 18th 3-20 53.03%
2024 16th 5-18 68.10%
2025 18th 1-21 63.04% - have secured the wooden spoon.
West Coast have been worse than the above 2 sides, the 4 seasons before their first assistance draft. The $60m cash and investments WCE have is useless to getting better players when you have a salary cap and a soft cap tax that their overlords the WAFC - sorry that WA Football since February - probably will stop them from blowing the soft cap by $700k-$1mil on extra development coaches and get a tax bill of between $500k and $750k in 2026.
I don't have a problem if they get an end of Rd 1 or start of Rd 2 pick which either way is somewhere between pick 20 and 25 after free agency compo picks and before matching bids. A Rd 3 pick would be about pick 40-45. They should definitely get that.
I reckon as a minimum they should be allowed 5 extra rookie spots which gives them the chance to find another Tom McCarthy or more, like they did in this year's mid season draft, but it lets them take some 21 to 25 year olds who would as a minimum strengthen their WAFL side which this year has been smashed again when they get a lot of injuries and have to use 10+ top up players. These extra 21 to 25 years would aid development of the kids on the main list. In the WAFL they have a 2-14 record and 65% in 2025 and were 4-14 and 57% in 2024.
The exact same situation we see with the Magpies for big chunks of a season when our injury list is long.
The wealthy Vic clubs in the early '00's got pre Rd 1 priority picks if they won 5 games or less.
The Hawks got picks 2 (priority) and 5 in 2004 after only 1 bad year that got them Roughead and Franklin that paid dividends for over a decade.
Collingwood in 2005 after only 5 wins in 2005 after back to back GF's in 2002-03 and got picks 2 (priority) and 5 and took Dale Thomas and Pendlebury. Imagine if Collingwood didn't get a priority pick and only got Thomas. They might not have won a flag in 2023. These extra picks really pay off about a decade or more after they are handed out. They aren't an instant fix.
Something a little radical if the AFL gave them no picks because all the other clubs said they are too wealthy, then maybe give them $1mil to spend outside the soft cap to spend solely on development coaches and have the best development coaches to try and fast track development of players and get them out of the shit. That $1mil gets cut back after they win X number of games.
There is no point having a very poor WCE for years to come, as it just distorts the FIXture even further, when teams get to play them twice a year.
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If we still have our pick in the second round by the time of the draft, Lachy Dovaston sounds like a bloody good option give the quality of our small forwards.
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Eastern Ranges livewire Lachy Dovaston is a consistent goalsneak who works hard up the ground and wreaks havoc inside 50.
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Definitely need to add some quality to the small forward department. A viable option to the list of small forwards Port should look at.If we still have our pick in the second round by the time of the draft, Lachy Dovaston sounds like a bloody good option give the quality of our small forwards.
AFL Draft Power Rankings: July 2025
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Lachy Dovaston Draft Profile
Eastern Ranges livewire Lachy Dovaston is a consistent goalsneak who works hard up the ground and wreaks havoc inside 50.
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I really like the look of Harry Scott. Good size, good skills and good overhead. He feels like he could be the next Sam Durham or Davidson. I don't know if it's development or talent ID, but Richmond's VFL program is elite. It feels like they produce multiple AFL quality prospects each year.
With the draft looking as shallow as it does, I’d be more than happy to take a chance on him with our second round pick, or hope he’s still there for our third. A developing inside mid with some size is definitely something we need.
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I really like the look of Harry Scott. Good size, good skills and good overhead. He feels like he could be the next Sam Durham or Davidson. I don't know if it's development or talent ID, but Richmond's VFL program is elite. It feels like they produce multiple AFL quality prospects each year.
With the draft looking as shallow as it does, I’d be more than happy to take a chance on him with our second round pick, or hope he’s still there for our third. A developing inside mid with some size is definitely something we need.
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If we still have our pick in the second round by the time of the draft, Lachy Dovaston sounds like a bloody good option give the quality of our small forwards.
AFL Draft Power Rankings: July 2025
Rookie Me Central's AFL Draft Power Rankings are in for the month of July, with the post-championships list extended to 30 names.
BY THE NUMBERS
CLUB-TIED PLAYERS (9):
Brisbane: Daniel Annable (5)
Carlton: Harry Dean (8) ........................father-son
Collingwood: Zac McCarthy (26)
Essendon: Adam Sweid (30)
Gold Coast: Zeke Uwland (3), Dylan Patterson (4), Beau Addinsall (21)
Sydney: Max King (16), Lachlan Carmichael (24)
STATE-BY-STATE:
New South Wales (2): Max King (8), Lachlan Carmichael (24)
Northern Territory (1): Taj Murray (27)
Queensland (5): Zeke Uwland (3), Dylan Patterson (4), Daniel Annable (5), Beau Addinsall (21), Koby Coulson (28)
South Australia (7): Dyson Sharp (6), Mitchell Marsh (7), Aidan Schubert (10), Sam Cumming (12), Jevan Phillipou (18), Harley Barker (22), Matthew LeRay (23)
Vic Country (5): Willem Duursma (2), Harry Dean (8), Josh Lindsay (9), Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves (17), Talor Byrne (29)
Vic Metro (9): Cooper Duff-Tytler (1), Oliver Greeves (11), Sam Grlj (13), Xavier Taylor (14), Archie Ludowyke (15), Lachy Dovaston (19), Louis Emmett (25), Zac McCarthy (26), Adam Sweid (30)
Western Australia (1): Jacob Farrow (20)
Going to be interesting to see what we do here.
Currently have picks around 24,42,60 (ish from memory last time I looked)
Do we use all those picks considering we need to try to address some issues?
Or do we trade those picks out into 2026?
Or maybe just trade out one of 24,42?
It’s a draft where we could trade out and just ask Parker to try to find us three young talents with nothing end of draft picks. Tho I also think we could have some nice options with that 2nd round pick. We definitely need to add talent.
We likely have to target best player available with this draft and our picks, but arguably small / medium defenders are a huge need for us. Also mobile intercepting defenders. Our defence was a shambles this year and it’s not like we’ve got too many out that can come in and make a difference.
Currently have picks around 24,42,60 (ish from memory last time I looked)
Do we use all those picks considering we need to try to address some issues?
Or do we trade those picks out into 2026?
Or maybe just trade out one of 24,42?
It’s a draft where we could trade out and just ask Parker to try to find us three young talents with nothing end of draft picks. Tho I also think we could have some nice options with that 2nd round pick. We definitely need to add talent.
We likely have to target best player available with this draft and our picks, but arguably small / medium defenders are a huge need for us. Also mobile intercepting defenders. Our defence was a shambles this year and it’s not like we’ve got too many out that can come in and make a difference.
60 is worth nothing in terms of points so won't be trading that I'd imagine.
With the uncertainty of NGA changes I imagine we just use them all tbh
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Any lockdown small defenders whether it'll they are mature or not? Any players that stands out? Preferable someone with some speed and mongrel.
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