Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVIII

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

Folks, this is the way things are here.

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There is no need to further speculate. What will be will be.

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Simply put, don't be a dick.

Thanks all!

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

How can the offer be the same as Collingwood’s but he’s being pushed out?? Doesn’t make sense

 

[ctwenty1]

4 years at $600k a year for a player who has averaged less than 13 games a year over a decade is hardly being pushed IMO

$46k a game...

 

[Stamos]

I think people are missing that there are subtle ways to push.

 

[ctwenty1]

I think people are missing that there are subtle ways to push.

hmmmm

Still wouldnt say he is being pushed

Certainly not so sublte way of saying you are replacable

 

[ctwenty1]

Jimmy's going to be rabbit stew

Should we all start posting in the No Discussion thread to try to save him

 

[The Great Ian]

Jack's manager working very hard.

 

[JimmyRabbit49]

Jimmy's going to be rabbit stew

Look a love JSOS - but I think the club has a right to say ""we have been paying you pretty well for the last decade while you have struggled to stay on the park - we are happy to give you a 4 year contract, where you will be 32 at the end of it, but $600k is the max"

 

[jimsta10]

JimmyRabbit49 we get your point...now run!

 

[ctwenty1]

Look a love JSOS - but I think the club has a right to say ""we have been paying you pretty well for the last decade while you have struggled to stay on the park - we are happy to give you a 4 year contract, where you will be 32 at the end of it, but $600k is the max"

hahah

thats not what Stamos meant

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

We don't really care if you go, but here's a 4 yr deal....i'm calling BS.

 

[JimmyRabbit49]

Should we all start posting in the No Discussion thread to try to save him

I apologise but I didn't realise when I clicked on the link from aph I changed from the discussion page to the no disucssion page

 

[Stamos]

Look a love JSOS - but I think the club has a right to say ""we have been paying you pretty well for the last decade while you have struggled to stay on the park - we are happy to give you a 4 year contract, where you will be 32 at the end of it, but $600k is the max"

It's more about where you have your opinion rather than what that opinion is

 

[bradfisher14]

music to my ears

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Begging to come to us ….

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Do we know if this offer was before HOF did his knee?

It would have been, but you'd think we would have changed our minds. Also, I doubt we were counting on HOF being a full time 2nd KPD midyear.

 

[reubsblues]

I call bs too and only reason we would not be fussed is we have a better replacement
Wilkie

 

[Flaggers22]

If this is the case, people might want to hedge their criticism of Jack.

If true, what is the logic here? HOF out for a year. Dean isn't coming in to play as the 2nd KPD right away.

One criticism of the Weitering/JSOS combo is they are both too slow for fast leading players.

I think the plan is to just make do with Weitering, Haynes, Kemp, Young, Gov and Dean. I think this is the right move for the long term as HoF and Dean would likely displace Jack at some point. In the short term, our backline is stronger than it was when we were playing finals, just by virtue of having Haynes. I think they might be bullish on Dean too. He's more physically advanced than most first year KPD's, so it wouldn't surprise me to see him force his way into the team. I don't know about you, but I'm not expecting a premiership next year, so I don't really mind if the backline regresses for a season.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Do we know if this offer was before HOF did his knee?

We need a young mobile KPP swingman over the off season, 2nd defensive banana next year beside Weiters, then future forward when HOF and Dean are available.
Gruzewski was mentioned as a target a week ago. Is he big enough, or just another Kemp/Gov type?

He even looks similar to SOS.

 

[JimmyRabbit49]

I think the plan is to just make do with Weitering, Haynes, Kemp, Young, Gov and Dean. I think this is the right move for the long term as HoF and Dean would likely displace Jack at some point. In the short term, our backline is stronger than it was when we were playing finals, just by virtue of having Haynes. I think they might be bullish on Dean too. He's more physically advanced than most first year KPD's, so it wouldn't surprise me to see him force his way into the team. I don't know about you, but I'm not expecting a premiership next year, so I don't really mind if the backline regresses for a season.

You would think Moir coming in would push Kemp back

 

[Aphrodite]

No one knows the 'dynamics' at play inside the Club. Also who knows what credibility there is to opinion posted as a PM anyway.

As outsiders instead of jumping at shadows- all that can be dione is to look at actions and facts that are public.

Everyone would prefer that Jack stays and i happy to and is part of a united Club. That may not be a possibility or even probability though. IF not the CLub is better off and so is Jack - by definiiton.

It’s not posted in a FACTS thread JaB.

I receive PM’s regularly & don’t post all publicly.

 

[Aphrodite]

Would seem strange if club pushing him out. My only take would be this theory that Jack is somewhat of negative influence around the club.

That was in the PM as well.

Apparently has an ‘entitled’ attitude.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

4 years at $600k a year for a player who has averaged less than 13 games a year over a decade is hardly being pushed IMO

The rumour is that we are pushing him out the door. His actions suggest we might be pushing him out the door.

The average salary for an AFL player is $492, 592 in 2025, so probably over $500k in 2026.

I doubt Jack has been on any decent contracts in his career so this is the last one and he finally found his position and value. The fact that other teams are happy to make a play for him says something.

Is TDK worth the $1m plus we offered him?

Curnow is a $1m plus player averaging 14.9 games per season. Harry the same averaging 13.8 games per season.

I'm not saying JSOS should be earning anywhere near that, but geez he has been a good team player doing the shit jobs to earn a spot.

Besides, pushing isn’t always about salary. It could also be about the communication you receive. Where is the love? He's not leaving for much more money, but it seems love and respect is high on his list of expectations.

 

[Aphrodite]

I apologise but I didn't realise when I clicked on the link from aph I changed from the discussion page to the no disucssion page

Good try

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I call bs too and only reason we would not be fussed is we have a better replacement
Wilkie

That might be a development after the initial offer, so we are letting it play out now.

 

[ctwenty1]

You would think Moir coming in would push Kemp back

this sounds like competition for spots....

Nice