Recommitted Harley Reid [extends contract to 2028!]

[Ambrose Burnside]

Realistically down to the Eagles and the only two clubs with the draft picks that could satisfy the Eagles for a contracted Harley Reid, Essendon and Richmond.

Harley chose wisely

 

[txbyhull]

That’s a fair comment. But isn’t there a school of thought that your next Pick 1 from this year will just be asking for the same contract in 2 years?

What does this do to the club wage structure once , say, a Gibney has a fantastic 2026 and quite rightfully asks why he’s being paid 35-45% p/y of what Harley is?

This is intentionally obtuse. The reason Harley is being paid so much is because he’s getting offered that much from other clubs. His market value isn’t driven by him or us it’s what the market is willing to pay him. And that’s top dollar because he’s a top player and looks like he’ll be generational

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

That’s a fair comment. But isn’t there a school of thought that your next Pick 1 from this year will just be asking for the same contract in 2 years?

What does this do to the club wage structure once , say, a Gibney has a fantastic 2026 and quite rightfully asks why he’s being paid 35-45% p/y of what Harley is?

It depends what other teams in the market are offering? We know St Kilda have offered 2 mill+ , We know Hawks made a big offer, we know Essendon made a big offer

Demand sets the price not the supply...

 

[Elite Pete]

That’s a fair comment. But isn’t there a school of thought that your next Pick 1 from this year will just be asking for the same contract in 2 years?

What does this do to the club wage structure once , say, a Gibney has a fantastic 2026 and quite rightfully asks why he’s being paid 35-45% p/y of what Harley is?

This will follow Harley and the club he signs with where ever he goes. Best in the business Cal has said the Hawks are obsessed and likely to go to $1.8m a year. What does that do at the Hawks? With the current players that had got them climbing the ladder.

The man is going to get paid no matter where he goes and that payment will be on potential due to it happening this off season.

Also the number 1 pick this year hasn’t had the profile that Harley has had even before he got drafted. Dominating the Gettable, Tradies pods and in the news 12 months before he even got drafted because clubs were getting labelled with tanking for him. The generational player tag by itself lifts the price tag. None of this years draft crop has that tag.

 

[Obeanie1]

That’s a fair comment. But isn’t there a school of thought that your next Pick 1 from this year will just be asking for the same contract in 2 years?

What does this do to the club wage structure once , say, a Gibney has a fantastic 2026 and quite rightfully asks why he’s being paid 35-45% p/y of what Harley is?

Because they arent at the same level and know it.

They dont have the revenue generating influence as Harley has. Which has been built by the hype around the kids pre draft.

There is a reason why Nike signed Harley even before getting drafted.

Same reason why so many opposition posters are on here discussing him or chucking mini tantrums because it looks like he is staying with the Eagles.

Any game he gets near it the crowd reacts one way or the other. How many players generate that sort of crowd reaction?

Harely is a money making machine and he will get his cut of what he generates. Much more than 99% of other AFL players.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

This is intentionally obtuse. The reason Harley is being paid so much is because he’s getting offered that much from other clubs. His market value isn’t driven by him or us it’s what the market is willing to pay him. And that’s top dollar because he’s a top player and looks like he’ll be generational

he isn't a top player, he could* be a top player. It is fraught with risk from top to bottom.

rarely do the guys on these stupid $1m+ contracts pay off, let alone $2m

The juice is rarely worth the squeeze

You may give him the money just because you can and you need to get the cap floor, but that's a shit message internally I think, i can't speak for Essendon but hopefully we have nothing to do with this.

Id rather give Mckay another 800k than harley reid $2 million rofl.

 

[Obeanie1]

he isn't a top player, he could* be a top player. It is fraught with risk from top to bottom.

rarely do the guys on these stupid $1m+ contracts pay off, let alone $2m

The juice is rarely worth the squeeze

You may give him the money just because you can and you need to get the cap floor, but that's a shit message internally I think, i can't speak for Essendon but hopefully we have nothing to do with this.

Id rather give Mckay another 800k than harley reid $2 million rofl.

And he walks and the Eagles rebuild is set back 2 years.

Harely makes the club a ton of money. A ton.

Not many players can do that.

He is worth more for what he can deliver off field not just on field.

How many players can do that? Not many.

 

[Philhawk]

This is intentionally obtuse. The reason Harley is being paid so much is because he’s getting offered that much from other clubs. His market value isn’t driven by him or us it’s what the market is willing to pay him. And that’s top dollar because he’s a top player and looks like he’ll be generational

This guy is a $2m a year, “top player”?

 

[Philhawk]

Because they arent at the same level and know it.

They dont have the revenue generating influence as Harley has. Which has been built by the hype around the kids pre draft.

There is a reason why Nike signed Harley even before getting drafted.

Same reason why so many opposition posters are on here discussing him or chucking mini tantrums because it looks like he is staying with the Eagles.

Any game he gets near it the crowd reacts one way or the other. How many players generate that sort of crowd reaction?

Harely is a money making machine and he will get his cut of what he generates. Much more than 99% of other AFL players.

This is a more reasonable argument. But let’s not pretend, like others have insinuated, that he’s being paid because he’s an elite player.

While I don’t think anyone is worth this money, NAS is elite at least. Harley isn’t.

That’s the enormous risk.

 

[bzparkes]

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This guy is a $2m a year, “top player”?

Ask yourself then why your club is prepared to pay close to that to entice him across.

 

[txbyhull]

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This guy is a $2m a year, “top player”?

In the worst side of a generation, as the number 1 guy, with a hard tag every week, with a style of game that’s not exactly rack up a million possessions like some others. You’re nitpicking and conveniently left out the part about every other club also throwing money at him. Bright spark you are

 

[triple treat]

break it down for me then because all i see is

Barrass + R4 for R1, R2, R3

Basically your whole draft hand for an aging key back.

You made another unrelated (to this deal) trade.

You my friend are absolutely correct; Hawks traded pick 14 for Carlton's 1st and 2nd this year (upgrade!), I somehow thought that was on traded to WCE but i snuck onto your board and found a deathride thread on the Hawks . So i stand corrected.

 

[Le RickyBobby]

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This guy is a $2m a year, “top player”?

Crazy isn't it.

WC are so desperate to resign him, he can command what he likes.

 

[Elite Pete]

You my friend are absolutely correct; Hawks traded pick 14 for Carlton's 1st and 2nd this year (upgrade!), I somehow thought that was on traded to WCE but i snuck onto your board and found a deathride thread on the Hawks . So i stand corrected.

Eagles made the wromg choice or probably a 50-50 call.

Hawks also traded out for a super draft though as well for a projected thin draft.

 

[Philhawk]

In the worst side of a generation, as the number 1 guy, with a hard tag every week, with a style of game that’s not exactly rack up a million possessions like some others. You’re nitpicking and conveniently left out the part about every other club also throwing money at him. Bright spark you are

Play the ball, not the man - speaks to your argument, my friend.

Other clubs, including my own, potentially chasing him doesn’t change the fact it’s a staggering amount of money invested in a player who hasn’t showed anything yet.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

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This guy is a $2m a year, “top player”?

Sure hes not worth it right now, but he's just about the Eagles best player in his 2nd season. 2 mil a year is crazy money, but talks of overpaying are ridiculous when you look at state of West Coasts list.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

This is a more reasonable argument. But let’s not pretend, like others have insinuated, that he’s being paid because he’s an elite player.

While I don’t think anyone is worth this money, NAS is elite at least. Harley isn’t.

That’s the enormous risk.

It's not an enormous risk when the Eagles are struggling to pay the salary cap imo.

 

[txbyhull]

Play the ball, not the man - speaks to your argument, my friend.

Other clubs, including my own, potentially chasing him doesn’t change the fact it’s a staggering amount of money invested in a player who hasn’t showed anything yet.

So why would other clubs be offering him so much money if all you want to do is rag on the eagles for looking at giving it to him?

Saying he hasn’t shown anything is ridiculous and shows how little you’ve watched of him especially last year. With Yeo in the side (an actual competent midfielder) feeding him the ball and actually letting him run through and break from stoppage he was a genuine game breaker in his first season of footy, and if he wasn’t suspended would’ve been the walk up rising star. Single handedly won us multiple games last year as I said, the worst side in a generation.

Not to mention he had a severely interrupted pre season and didn’t come into the year in proper game shape (which I will say was a slight concern in his first season but that’s a given for a first year player) so it’s taken him half a year to even work up to that. 6 of his 10 highest disposal games of the year came after the half way point, 7 of his 10 tackle games, 7 of 10 highest mark games, 9 of 13 highest clearance games in the back half as well. I’m not saying he’s been night and day throughout the year, but it was well documented he had a rough start to the year and since then has performed superbly.

What he’s doing in by FAR the worst midfield in the comp and possibly of the modern era (-11 clearance differential average, 4 more than the next side the last time I checked) with zero help shows exactly why he’s worth the money. Contracts are given off potential not just current ability, Mac Andrew is being paid a mil for example.

 

[txbyhull]

You my friend are absolutely correct; Hawks traded pick 14 for Carlton's 1st and 2nd this year (upgrade!), I somehow thought that was on traded to WCE but i snuck onto your board and found a deathride thread on the Hawks . So i stand corrected.

Don’t even get me started, when we were given the choice we originally asked for Carlton first and Hawks second I think (maybe reverse) but got told no it’s yours or theirs and we picked YOURS?!? Hindsight is a b***h

 

[triple treat]

Eagles made the wromg choice or probably a 50-50 call.

Hawks also traded out for a super draft though as well for a projected thin draft.

Could you imagine the outcry if a club traded pick 3 away in a super draft?

 

[bzparkes]

Could you imagine the outcry if a club traded pick 3 away in a super draft?

What super draft?

 

[Elite Pete]

Could you imagine the outcry if a club traded pick 3 away in a super draft?

A super draft more so due to its depth. If they took two of the teens players I think most would’ve been happy. Bo Allan, Murphy Reid and Shanahan would’ve been a fair haul.

You don’t have to say that to an Eagles supporter there was a fair outcry from the fans and deservedly so.

Doesn’t mean the Hawks trading out of it for TB was the right decision with Battle already coming in. Time will tell and fair play for getting a player to say yes to go to the Hawks after missing so many. You’ve gotta pay the price I guess.

Shanahan looks a player and it’s still a wait and see with Allan

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Murmurs are Reid signed a 4 year extension (so 5 years in total) at around that 1.8 mill per year mark. Coming from same guy who was in this thread earlier saying a deals agreed (forget his name but was talking on radio before).

More or less waiting for the air to clear before announcing it. Id expect next week is a fair chance. Eagles had to pay more to get that 4th year which has been the negotiations for the last month

 

[TONYC3163]

Murmurs are Reid signed a 4 year extension (so 5 years in total) at around that 1.8 mill per year mark. Coming from same guy who was in this thread earlier saying a deals agreed (forget his name but was talking on radio before).

More or less waiting for the air to clear before announcing it. Id expect next week is a fair chance. Eagles had to pay more to get that 4th year which has been the negotiations for the last month

Makes sense, and that seems to be the consensus, but there was much talk about things being announced this past week.

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

You are correct there really is nobody worth paying and no experienced players worth front loading apart from baker , McCarthy & Graham.
Unless they pay OsCar Allen to stay as a leader and captain

Waterman another, don't know how much Yeo would be on but surely frontloading him as well. Can't do anything this trade period that would compromise pick 2 but expect a massive free agency raid next year.

 

[Lia]

Ask yourself then why your club is prepared to pay close to that to entice him across.

Obsessed with him was one of the quotes going around.