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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

List Changes - 2025
  • Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
  • Jayden Hunt announces retirement
  • Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
  • Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
  • Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
  • List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

Key Offseason Dates
Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft
 
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Given his injury history, why wouldn’t he take the extra two years on a contract knowing that he could have another injury-marred next few years and either be out of the league by the end of that contract or be looking at a significantly lower contract to finish out his career.
The comments were made in the context of some people suggesting the Eagles had done the wrong thing by him, as he loved the club and should have been treated better.

I wish him well. If his body was right, I suspect the Eagles would have matched Brisbane's offer.

Hopefully, Oscar can get his body right. Hopefully, pick 2 facilitates us getting a 200-game player who can help propel us to our next premiership.
 
What on earth has Oscar Allen demonstrated in the last 2 years to think he deserves anything remotely close to the rumours Brisbane offer?

"Deserve" has nothing to do with it... it's about market rates. He's worth whatever Brisbane (or others) are willing to pay.

What is totally ****ed up is to see the reigning premiers pick up multiple 1-round talents due to academies and FS, then go and pick the eyes out of the last ranked team via free agency.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.
 

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Do clubs usually do exit interviews before their last game of the year?

No idea... but for a player that is injured, possibly? My guess is it may have been a courtesy to give Allen maximum amount of time to prepare for moving interstate.

At least we are seemingly being proactive with our list going forwards

IMHO it's a no-win. We match the offer, and Allen spends most of the time injured and we look like chumps that stalled our rebuild. Don't match the offer, and it looks like we've hung our captain out to dry.
 
I've re-read you post and see the point of it now.
My apologies.

However isn't this a shallow draft?
Is there enough talent to do it?
I dive in and out of watching the under age stuff so I’m not an expert by any stretch, but I think the top end talent isn’t a bench mark and the depth isn’t there, but there are good players to be had in the top 15 or so. It’s just about choosing your fighter.

Duursma, Lindsay the elite kicking HB and maybe the project tall Schubert? Maybe Grlj, the outside speedster? (I haven’t seen any of Grlj myself FYI), Mitch Marsh the mid sized forward from Adelaide?

My point is my esteemed chap, if the deal was good enough there are wins to be had. If we’re gonna fortify the list; now is the time to do it: I’m not saying DON’T use 1 and 2, but this season the gap between 2 and 10 isn’t very high. Any of the top 5 or so could be taken based on list need.
 
Not sure you can say with a straight face that Allen has held up his end of the bargain.

Has been AWOL since 2023, and when he has played he looked comically bad.
I think you’re being overly harsh here. Injuries happen. Some players have a wretched run of it, and how we have used him probably hasn’t helped.

This year his form was absolutely putrid. No doubt he had plenty on his mind, and plenty of things to work through with the contract.

He was asked to fill roles that he shouldn’t have had to. Battered in the ruck out of necessity when he was a kid. Swung down back which would have stunted his development as a KPF.

He’s competed hard for the club when he’s been available and we’ve been absolutely putrid for most of his career to date. This is a situation that benefits both parties, so it’s pretty pointless to have sour grapes about how it all works out.
 
I think you’re being overly harsh here. Injuries happen. Some players have a wretched run of it, and how we have used him probably hasn’t helped.

This year his form was absolutely putrid. No doubt he had plenty on his mind, and plenty of things to work through with the contract.

He was asked to fill roles that he shouldn’t have had to. Battered in the ruck out of necessity when he was a kid. Swung down back which would have stunted his development as a KPF.

He’s competed hard for the club when he’s been available and we’ve been absolutely putrid for most of his career to date. This is a situation that benefits both parties, so it’s pretty pointless to have sour grapes about how it all works out.

Agree, no sour grapes on my part. I'm jumping for joy getting pick 2 for what had become essentially a toxic asset.

Oscar signed his last deal with us in 2021.

2022 - missed the entire season
2023 - kicked 53 goals in an awful team
2024 - missed 13 games through injury
2025 - played 12 games, kicking 12 goals going goalless on 6 occasions.

Personally when Waterman emerged in 2024 I was always a bit suspect they could play together in key posts. I can't recall any game where they both hit the scoreboard at the same time. Not only is Oscars durability an issue, but so is the functioning of our forward line with him in it.

On the other hand, we can let him go and get pick 2, which is a vast overestimation of what he would be worth on the open market.

It's easy as shelling peas. The club did the right thing, Oscar despite his body breaking down and never really being in the top echelon of key forwards in the game gets the big 5 year 1 million dollar check he was chasing.
 
"Deserve" has nothing to do with it... it's about market rates. He's worth whatever Brisbane (or others) are willing to pay.

What is totally ****ed up is to see the reigning premiers pick up multiple 1-round talents due to academies and FS, then go and pick the eyes out of the last ranked team via free agency.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Not sure why you'r having a an Obeanie like melt over Brisbane's f/s and free agency moves.

We are incredibly lucky that Free Agency works the way it does and the fact it will produce a top 2 pick for us.

One the open market without Free Agency Oscar would net us a 2nd round pick.

We should thanking our lucky stars that Free Agency exists.
 

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Both parties weren't perfect and made mistakes.
Both parties were looking after their own interests, which is fair enough.
Both parties had a win.
All the best to Oscar and his future, and all the best to the Eagles and their future.
What's done is done, let's move forward.
 
Didn't half this board want Tim English to "solve" our hit out issue? Our current rucks pantsed English in hitouts, and we still lost by 90 points

It's just not that important

a hit out stat in isolation isn't that important (or indicative) imo. I wouldn't say that means the entire ruck position isn't that important.

I've mentioned this stat a fair bit on this board, but we are -12.2 in first possession from a hit out. 18th by a mile. 17th is -4. In terms of turning first possession in to a clearance. We turn fist possession in to clearance at 73.3% which is around 14th. Screenshot 2025-08-24 at 8.19.13 pm.png


Our first possession stats are due to our absolutely dire ruck stocks, and the primary reason why we lose clearances so comprehensively every week.

Now if you were to say that clearances don't matter, that would be a hard sell to me and most on this board, I'd imagine.
 

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Both parties weren't perfect and made mistakes.
Both parties were looking after their own interests, which is fair enough.
Both parties had a win.
All the best to Oscar and his future, and all the best to the Eagles and their future.
What's done is done, let's move forward.
This is my take.

Just acknowledging just how well it actually worked out for us with the mechanics of the broken compensation system
 
Look he's injury prone but the fact is he is a co captain he should've given it up if he didn't want to stay


Anyway Im.happy to send him off at the airport. We don't need players who don't stick to the team and bring it back to its prime. And I'm happy for pick two to land on our lap

Lastly we have Shanahan who is looking ominous

Bye Felicia.
 
I've been thinking our leadership group back in 2018-2022 apart from Shuey and Hurn were not the right people. In all the time Shuey was with us he could of got more money if he left us and came back to Victoria but never in his entire time here was there a doubt he we re-sign.

You compare that to the likes of McGovern who held us over a barrel with threats of heading to Freo, Yeo milking in a massive contract, Gaff on a massive contract, TB etc. Of course footy is a business and players want to maximise earning opportunities but your leaders need to be selfless. You never heard rumours of Selwood, Enright, Tom Stewart, Hawkins or Pendlebury, Sidebottom wanting to leave if their demands weren't met. I reckon our culture has filtered through a bit and it's not wonder Oscar wants his worth, if he's following the likes of McGovern or Yep rather than Shuey or Hurn

I generally agree, we cultivated a very selfish and soft group of senior players during our successful era. But have to disagree on Yeo.

Yeo had just won his first BnF and signed for under because we said that 750Kx 5 is the best we could do. Which is still bloody good money in 2017.

Then the next year Gov (who had the same manager) held us over a barrel and we signed Gaff on 900Kx6 and the next year Kelly on 900x6.

During all this time Yeo was still our best performing and most important player (maybe 2nd to Gov). If he felt hard done by (I think he did) he had every right.

Gov definitely took us for everything he could. 1.1m x 5 is obscene in 2018 for a KPD, but he was a generational KPD who changed the game.

I was dirty on Gov for that deal given his output, but I think as time passed he became a much better leader and paid us back in spades in the last couple of years when he was out on the park.
 
a hit out stat in isolation isn't that important (or indicative) imo. I wouldn't say that means the entire ruck position isn't that important.

I've mentioned this stat a fair bit on this board, but we are -12.2 in first possession from a hit out. 18th by a mile. 17th is -4. In terms of turning first possession in to a clearance. We turn fist possession in to clearance at 73.3% which is around 14th. View attachment 2406115


Our first possession stats are due to our absolutely dire ruck stocks, and the primary reason why we lose clearances so comprehensively every week.

Now if you were to say that clearances don't matter, that would be a hard sell to me and most on this board, I'd imagine.
How much of this stat is our ruck woes and how much of it is the inexperience and size of our midfielders?
 
Sure but than Yeo threatened to go to Adelaide unless he had a three year deal. He's probably a bad example as he's not really been a leader of the club. And I'm not blaming players for wanting to make as much money as possible.

Just suggesting that we are very careful with who select as our leaders. They have to really really love the club and be prepared to be paid less than their worth.
Who said he 'threatened' to go to Adelaide?

He just wanted an extra year. We reportedly paid nearly $1m less than what Adelaide were offering.
 
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