List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  27

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

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  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

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  D

  7.8

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  K

  4.6

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  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Wce17]

If the Saints split pick 7 it could unlock a lot of the reported trade targets they are after.

They split pick 7 for Hawks first & WCE start of second rounder so say 14 & 19

Then they use 14 as part of deal to grab one of Mackenzie or Flanders (I can't see them getting both)

The other split pick 19 is used to get Aleer from GWS. Pick 19 has extra value as its the first pick on night 2 so teams will be after it.

As those picks can't be traded back to us for Ryan we get back the first rounder Geelong offer for Marshall if he decided to leave.

WCE Get: 7, 17 (Geelong first)
WCE Lose: Ryan, 14 (Hawks F1), 19 WCE 2nd

STK Get: Ryan, Mackenzie/Flanders, Aleer
STK Lose: 7, Marshall

GEE Get: Marshall
GEE lose: 17

That would be the bones of it with some additional picks to balance things out.

STK get more currency to bring all there targets & if both Flanders & Mackenzie said yes then they would still have future currency to get that done as you can trade 2 years in advance now.

WCE move up the order & can hopefully grab Cummings or Farrow & also get another late first rounder on top of it. Would give us 1,2,7 & 17

Geelong just simply get the ruckman they are after for a fair price.

 

[Doashuey]

This is why I don’t understand the apparent request by us to the AFL to anti-dilution. It looks to be a perfectly simple trade. We have more pics than we’ll use. Surely Brisbane won’t decline a third rounder?

Might be keeping it dry in order to upgrade an earlier pick. I know the points system has changed a bit this year, is an early 3rd worth points for a team like GC looking to bank points for their NGAs? If so it may help us prise out pick 6(?)

 

[Tugga27]

Kane's not wrong haha

Honestly, given our hand. We should easily walk away with 4 top 10 picks.

To be honest, we shouldn't be picking night 2. We should be done in the first round, unless we can prelist NGA and Charlie

I can see us with a bit of horse trading getting 3 top ten picks.

Not sure how you get to four.

 

[Rowan18]

If the Saints split pick 7 it could unlock a lot of the reported trade targets they are after.

They split pick 7 for Hawks first & WCE start of second rounder so say 14 & 19

Then they use 14 as part of deal to grab one of Mackenzie or Flanders (I can't see them getting both)

The other split pick 19 is used to get Aleer from GWS. Pick 19 has extra value as its the first pick on night 2 so teams will be after it.

As those picks can't be traded back to us for Ryan we get back the first rounder Geelong offer for Marshall if he decided to leave.

WCE Get: 7, 17 (Geelong first)
WCE Lose: Ryan, 14 (Hawks F1), 19 WCE 2nd

STK Get: Ryan, Mackenzie/Flanders, Aleer
STK Lose: 7, Marshall

GEE Get: Marshall
GEE lose: 17

That would be the bones of it with some additional picks to balance things out.

STK get more currency to bring all there targets & if both Flanders & Mackenzie said yes then they would still have future currency to get that done as you can trade 2 years in advance now.

WCE Move up the order & can hopefully grab Cummings or Farrow & also get another late first rounder on top of it.

Geelong just simply get the ruckman they are after for a fair price.

That would be a great outcome for all involved.

 

[Coasters7]

What a shame for Carlton.
Let’s not bail them out of their poor list.

We finally have a situation where we have both multiple picks in round 1 prob the first two of draft.

We don’t need to do anything to take both quality and quantity. We already have that. Try and improve hawks pick and end 19 via Ryan etc and hit the draft hard.

Yeah agreed. We should have surplus picks in the second or third rounds. Use those to grab senior players that are available.

Under no circumstances should we be trading 1 or 2 unless it nets us multiple top 10 picks. Surely they’ve learnt from last year.

 

[Jootube]

If the Saints split pick 7 it could unlock a lot of the reported trade targets they are after.

They split pick 7 for Hawks first & WCE start of second rounder so say 14 & 19

Then they use 14 as part of deal to grab one of Mackenzie or Flanders (I can't see them getting both)

The other split pick 19 is used to get Aleer from GWS. Pick 19 has extra value as its the first pick on night 2 so teams will be after it.

As those picks can't be traded back to us for Ryan we get back the first rounder Geelong offer for Marshall if he decided to leave.

WCE Get: 7, 17 (Geelong first)
WCE Lose: Ryan, 14 (Hawks F1), 19 WCE 2nd

STK Get: Ryan, Mackenzie/Flanders, Aleer
STK Lose: 7, Marshall

GEE Get: Marshall
GEE lose: 17

That would be the bones of it with some additional picks to balance things out.

STK get more currency to bring all there targets & if both Flanders & Mackenzie said yes then they would still have future currency to get that done as you can trade 2 years in advance now.

WCE move up the order & can hopefully grab Cummings or Farrow & also get another late first rounder on top of it. Would give us 1,2,7 & 17

Geelong just simply get the ruckman they are after for a fair price.

I struggle to see how a ruckman who will be 30 at the start of the season with no AAs, no premiership, no BnF would be worth a 1st rounder.

Geelong are pretty astute at the trade table and will not be offering a 1st for Roma.

 

[FKASC]

Jed’s not playing because he’s a big oaf who can’t kick straight

Levi Casboult

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Levi Casboult

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36

Ht

199cm

Wt

104kg

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Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.7

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

10.1

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.3

2star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.4

5star

mk2 don’t at me

 

[Bender_]

Cornes: "Don't stuff it up."

Cornes if all our draftees aren't in AA contention by round 3: "See, I told them not to stuff it up, and look what they've done."

 

[Wce17]

Yeah agreed. We should have surplus picks in the second or third rounds. Use those to grab senior players that are available.

Under no circumstances should we be trading 1 or 2 unless it nets us multiple top 10 picks. Surely they’ve learnt from last year.

I would be happy moving back with Essendon depending on who we want & players we are after. 2 for 5 & 22. That 22 then gets bundled with other picks to get Suns 6 as they need points.

Essentially its 2 for 6 & 7. Say if it got you Cummings & Sharp/Farrow over CDT would you be happy?

 

[Wce17]

I struggle to see how a ruckman who will be 30 at the start of the season with no AAs, no premiership, no BnF would be worth a 1st rounder.

Geelong are pretty astute at the trade table and will not be offering a 1st for Roma.

He's contracted & Geelong are chasing him. Things aren't in Geelongs favour this time & STK don't have to do anything. Also Ruckman always cost more.

 

[WCE777]

Well that’s just it, we don’t need KPFs. If the new ruck rules and 5 on the bench happen I think most teams will play 2 versatile athletic ruckman unless they have a gun ruck with a huge tank like Gawn or Xerri.

Jed’s defensive pressure is superb and probably better than most of our small forwards which is appealing but I don’t know if Jed, Jobe and Snake can all play F50 at once if none of them are going to ruck there.

I don't know if the link to Walter is real or not but if it is, why when we have a paddock full of KPF's?
The only thing I can think is WC see him as an elite KPD?
His draft year he beat everyone who challenged him, even D Curtin.
His goal kicking is the thing that seems to not improved greatly since his draft year.
Maybe better scouts have more of an idea in here, but this is the only reason I can think of why we may be linked.

 

[eaglevision]

 

[stallon]

So either Carlton are locking themselves in to be mediocre for years to come or they are playing hard to get?

 

[WCE_Phill]

I can see us with a bit of horse trading getting 3 top ten picks.

Not sure how you get to four.

Take WCE777 three-way with Saints and Geelong

WCE Get: 7, 17 (Geelong first)
WCE Lose: Ryan, 14 (Hawks F1), 19 WCE 2nd

STK Get: Ryan, Mackenzie/Flanders, Aleer
STK Lose: 7, Marshall

GEE Get: Marshall
GEE lose: 17

Then trade 2, 17, Future 2R to Essendon for 4,5 (Provide there interest in Duursma in real)

Go to draft with 1,4,5,7 plus NGA

We've already had inquiry on pick 2 (which we don't already have). I feel vic clubs are circling CTD and Duursma

 

[EagleEgo]

Somebody from Carlton is selling inside information to the media as a part time job?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

If the Saints split pick 7 it could unlock a lot of the reported trade targets they are after.

They split pick 7 for Hawks first & WCE start of second rounder so say 14 & 19

Then they use 14 as part of deal to grab one of Mackenzie or Flanders (I can't see them getting both)

The other split pick 19 is used to get Aleer from GWS. Pick 19 has extra value as its the first pick on night 2 so teams will be after it.

As those picks can't be traded back to us for Ryan we get back the first rounder Geelong offer for Marshall if he decided to leave.

WCE Get: 7, 17 (Geelong first)
WCE Lose: Ryan, 14 (Hawks F1), 19 WCE 2nd

STK Get: Ryan, Mackenzie/Flanders, Aleer
STK Lose: 7, Marshall

GEE Get: Marshall
GEE lose: 17

That would be the bones of it with some additional picks to balance things out.

STK get more currency to bring all there targets & if both Flanders & Mackenzie said yes then they would still have future currency to get that done as you can trade 2 years in advance now.

WCE move up the order & can hopefully grab Cummings or Farrow & also get another late first rounder on top of it. Would give us 1,2,7 & 17

Geelong just simply get the ruckman they are after for a fair price.

Pick 14 and pick 19 are worth ~300 more points than pick 7. In that instance we could offer them to GC and get pick 6 back (plus about ~170 points to GC), plus a player/later pick. We could still then ask for pick 17 for Ryan.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Take WCE777 three-way with Saints and Geelong

WCE Get: 7, 17 (Geelong first)
WCE Lose: Ryan, 14 (Hawks F1), 19 WCE 2nd

STK Get: Ryan, Mackenzie/Flanders, Aleer
STK Lose: 7, Marshall

GEE Get: Marshall
GEE lose: 17

Then trade 2, 17, Future 2R to Essendon for 4,5 (Provide there interest in Duursma in real)

Go to draft with 1,4,5,7 plus NGA

We've already had inquiry on pick 2 (which we don't already have). I feel vic clubs are circling CTD and Duursma

Essendon have pick 5 and 6, not 4 and 5.

 

[squashface]

I have no sympathy to players who sign huge extensions then decide they want to bail half way through. Tough luck, Charlie. Shouldn’t have locked yourself into staying at a perennial basket case club.

 

[Monocle]

Somebody from Carlton is selling inside information to the media as a part time job?

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Carlton has bleed information from within, for over a decade now.

 

[WCErevival]

Maybe Sydney will go for Bailey Williams now.

 

[WCE777]

Take WCE777 three-way with Saints and Geelong

WCE Get: 7, 17 (Geelong first)
WCE Lose: Ryan, 14 (Hawks F1), 19 WCE 2nd

STK Get: Ryan, Mackenzie/Flanders, Aleer
STK Lose: 7, Marshall

GEE Get: Marshall
GEE lose: 17

Then trade 2, 17, Future 2R to Essendon for 4,5 (Provide there interest in Duursma in real)

Go to draft with 1,4,5,7 plus NGA

We've already had inquiry on pick 2 (which we don't already have). I feel vic clubs are circling CTD and Duursma

As much as I would like to take credit it was Wce17 who came up with it and I just agreed.
I think it has the bones of the starting point.

 

[pantskyle]

Not sure why Blues are so reluctant to trade Curnow if a great offer comes in, Owies was the glue that was keeping that forward line ticking.

 

[bzparkes]

Not sure why Blues are so reluctant to trade Curnow if a great offer comes in, Owies was the glue that was keeping that forward line ticking.

Owies>>Curnow

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

That's why they pay him the big bucks, for insightful and hard-hitting analysis like this.

 

[bzparkes]

That's why they pay him the big bucks, for insightful and hard-hitting analysis like this.

To be fair, if the club took this advice to heart in 2020, we wouldn't be where we are currently.