List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread

[giantroo]

Official FA Moves/Trades​

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Player/Picks	Original Team	Receiving Team​	FA /Trade?
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA

Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to Melbourne
Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

- requests a trade to St Kilda
Leek Aleer - requests a trade to St Kilda
Campbell Chesser - requests a trade to Carlton
Will Brodie

17

Will Brodie

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

- requests a trade to Port Adelaide
Liam Reidy - requests a trade to Carlton
Sam Flanders - has requested a trade/explore options

 

[toepoker]

I'm from NSW, and during the 90s/00s there was a general feeling among the rugby league people I knew that the AFL was so far in front from an administrative viewpoint.
Not a chance you'd make the same argument these days

 

[Roosurgence]

Free Agency is so skewed towards big clubs it's not funny..

Why don’t the AFL just come out and say their vision for the league is the EPL where the same few teams are only a chance of winning it?

Let’s not kid ourselves this current administration is only interested in making the strong clubs stronger because it equates to more Revenue.

Free Agency has become the most unbalanced mechanism in the comp, but let’s pretend it’s a few father sons doing the most damage.

 

[King Corey]

There's several topics media (apart from RoCo) won't touch because they're all AFL/big club simps.

The one I've always wondered about is salary cap enforcement.

Even if the AFL cared (they clearly conditionally don't) they're not the ATO or AFP.

They don't have any jurisdiction to check personal, company, friends and families accounts, business interests etc.

Clubs can and do break the rules in full daylight and they won't do shit.

Unless it's a shitlist club like Crows (Tippett) or I'm sure us if we stumbled into that world.

 

[Petrie4PM]

I don't understand why we cant try and pick up two strong defenders. I would rather see Daniel, FOS and McKercher run through the middle instead of targeting another midfielder.

 

[Twangler]

Another simple tweak

Clubs that finish in the top 4 can’t offer a free regency contract above x

Clubs that finish 5-8 can’t offer a free agency contract above x + x

Bottom 10 Clubs can offer any contract they want

Don’t mind it but there’s still the issue of players opting to go to clubs based on motivation for playing in finals/premierships rather than financial gain. Could just limit all finalists from leveraging free agency at all!

 

[toepoker]

There's several topics media (apart from RoCo) won't touch because they're all AFL/big club simps.

The one I've always wondered about is salary cap enforcement.

Even if the AFL cared (they clearly conditionally don't) they're not the ATO or AFP.

They don't have any jurisdiction to check personal, company, friends and families accounts, business interests etc.

Clubs can and do break the rules in full daylight and they won't do shit.

Unless it's a shitlist club like Crows (Tippett) or I'm sure us if we stumbled into that world.

They're about as interested in that as the UCI was in catching cycling's drug cheats
Why do you want to expose the organisations that make you the most money?

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Another simple tweak

Clubs that finish in the top 4 can’t offer a free regency contract above x

Clubs that finish 5-8 can’t offer a free agency contract above x + x

Bottom 10 Clubs can offer any contract they want

The system needs to protect the rights of players to go where they want and get paid what they want. Otherwise there is no point to it. It exists as a negotiated middle ground to avoid players banding together to fight/beat the AFL’s hold over their employment conditions altogether. The AFL should never have pretended it would help lower clubs, and if they want to equalise they will need to find other measures to do that - the compensation isn’t working.

 

[the big lebowski]

Don’t mind it but there’s still the issue of players opting to go to clubs based on motivation for playing in finals/premierships rather than financial gain. Could just limit all finalists from leveraging free agency at all!

Sure but top players are unlikely to go to the premiers on $600k and if they are…… good luck to them

 

[the big lebowski]

The system needs to protect the rights of players to go where they want and get paid what they want. Otherwise there is no point to it. It exists as a negotiated middle ground to avoid players banding together to fight/beat the AFL’s hold over their employment conditions altogether. The AFL should never have pretended it would help lower clubs, and if they want to equalise they will need to find other measures to do that - the compensation isn’t working.

Sure. I understand what you’re saying.

But under my system they can go where they like. If they want more money, they can choose to go to one of many other clubs.

Players have so much power now that even contracts aren’t worth that much.

AFL need to show some back bone

 

[ohmygewd]

Should be looking at Cyril - would be in our top 5 skilled players

Wouldn't mind that McLeod bloke either at HB...smooth, hits targets lace out....

 

[Tiberius]

Sure but top players are unlikely to go to the premiers on $600k and if they are…… good luck to them

Agree, but Free Agency can only work to equalise the system if it is combined with effective policing and auditing of salary caps. Without the latter the former becomes a rort.

 

[Moti]

I don't understand why we cant try and pick up two strong defenders. I would rather see Daniel, FOS and McKercher run through the middle instead of targeting another midfielder.

It is strange how often 2026 sides replicate this same mistake. While the media continues to push for KP defenders, it is often the small and mid-sized forwards that hurt us the most and often because we play too many playmakers and not enough defenders. Hardeman really opens the eyes that you can have a well rounded defender, it isn't one or the other.

 

[King Corey]

Free agency would serve the lowest rather than highest paid players if it was meant to help tge broader playing group.

 

[Tas]

Ohh TTS, real good from you.

Lohnro's win in ~2004 was my fav Aus Cup.

Let's all enjoy it, as it used to be a bit of a go to (for me) when I couldn't see myself winning (something). Not that that happened too much as I played in 5 junior cricket flags in 7 years.

Is a bit like NMFC, really. We've copped a few setbacks (Rawling, Bradley, Nobles, Shaws, Thomas', JHFF) blocked for a run more than a few times, but now we have some clean air and we should be thinking we can beat the GC on the G in the GF in 2027 with all 18,000 of us in attendance.

If you can't envisage winning, it'll never happen.

We have played a number of horses over the years...

 

[New_Roo]

This is exactly what North Melbourne should be doing in our position. Putting pressure on other clubs caps. Perhaps we now turn our attention to Darcy Wilson.

it only says increased the tenure... is there not still a mill odd differential in value if we are 5 and 200k more/yr.... not to be sneezed at

 

[Possession]

its only says increased the tenure... is there not still a mill odd differential in value if we are 5 and 200k more/yr.... not to be sneezed at

I feel like ultimately he'd prefer to stay at the Saints so the difference between 4 years from them and 5 from us is much more negligible than when they were offering him 2.

 

[the big lebowski]

I also liked in Ralph’s article how Campbell threatens to reduce funding in their academy if they can’t get priority access.

I keep hearing it’s about the game not the club.

At least now that foolish notion can be put to bed and it’s open that academies are all about the club and not “growing that game”

 

[SainterinSydney]

Pretty strong whispers over last 24 hours that Windy has signed. Sorry, Gents.

 

[Sphynx]

Another simple tweak

Clubs that finish in the top 4 can’t offer a free regency contract above x

Clubs that finish 5-8 can’t offer a free agency contract above x + x

Bottom 10 Clubs can offer any contract they want

NBA has a similar function based on cap spending called the first and second apron.

It’s complicated, but essentially once you hit the second apron, you are extremely restricted in what you do with trades etc

You basically can only trade out, you can’t trade in. You can’t trade in additional picks, salary.


Can’t even trade one of your big contracts for multiple players on the same salary total.

It’s to prevent the large market teams (Lakers, Celtic, New York) etc dominating, as their salary cap is a soft cap, once you hit the first apron you start paying what’s called luxury tax in every $ above that cap. Once you start taking the piss, you essentially get extreme trade restrictions.

There could be a tweak based on that and ladder position.

I.E bottom clubs can spend a % of their cap on free agency.

Middle clubs can spend a % less

Top 4 can’t recruit via FA at all.

 

[HugeJohnson1]

Another simple tweak

Clubs that finish in the top 4 can’t offer a free regency contract above x

Clubs that finish 5-8 can’t offer a free agency contract above x + x

Bottom 10 Clubs can offer any contract they want

What a joke, we would’ve been crying about this back in the day trying to hold onto Carey etc… just because we have shit the bed, imagine in a few years trying to retain Mckercher/sheezel/wardlaw/fos

 

[Tas]

Pretty strong whispers over last 24 hours that Windy has signed. Sorry, Gents.

I like him as a player, and he was a north supporter growing up, but not sure why we would be chasing him. It doesn't make any sense to me. I hope he does sign.

 

[Passmore]

Pretty strong whispers over last 24 hours that Windy has signed. Sorry, Gents.

As you'd expect if you've upped your offer. Was hard to understand paying a flake like De Koning so much and playing handball with Windhager.

 

[New_Roo]

Pretty strong whispers over last 24 hours that Windy has signed. Sorry, Gents.

must be a very strong rumour if its made its way to Sydney already...

 

[shinboner magic]

Pretty strong whispers over last 24 hours that Windy has signed. Sorry, Gents.

That’s great - send Darcy Wilson back home instead

 

[Roo202]

Another simple tweak

Clubs that finish in the top 4 can’t offer a free regency contract above x

Clubs that finish 5-8 can’t offer a free agency contract above x + x

Bottom 10 Clubs can offer any contract they want

I was thinking along similar lines, a salary cap tax based on ladder position for signing free agents.

A sliding scale, not sure exactly what numbers would work, but for example, a free agent signs for $1million/season, if it's a top team they have $1.25 million taken from their cap, if it's a mid team has the $1million against their cap and if it's a bottom team they actually only lose $750,000 from their cap. Whatever percentages used would need to make it seriously hard for a top team to be competitive in the market.

It doesn't solve the draw of big, successful clubs, offering better chance of premierships, more exposure and off field earning opportunities, but it would at least give a some sort of a leg up to lower clubs to be in a position to offer more money to start with.