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What's that got to do with our team?
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But we’ve got the key positions sorted, so not comparable at all
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Did you read the post I replied to?
The Kangas have arguably the top ruckman in the AFL currently with a bevy of quality midfielders at his feet. As if we would have any chance of getting both a contracted Merrett and Oliver over the line, let's keep it real.
Draper: The unintended consequence of an Essendon admin error
The ruckman is still to make a call on his future.
I mentioned the other day I was surprised Butts was showing as a RFA when OOC next year. Now ASSUMING that’s right it’s probably the opposite to this situation where a Reidy has ensured Jordan’s last year of contract is in top 25% of all players and therefore becomes a much more valuable RFA. Having a crappy list manager (Dons) can cause so much damage
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Considering the offer put to NWM, plus the fact that Melb would be picking up a % of Oliver's contract the $$ are certainly there
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Jeez it must be hard being a Bombers fan at the moment. Team going crap, the shit Scott as your coach, all your good players want out and the only person looking to sign onto a longer contract is the shit Scott
Where are you seeing Butts listed as an RFA?Draper: The unintended consequence of an Essendon admin error
The ruckman is still to make a call on his future.sen.com.au
I mentioned the other day I was surprised Butts was showing as a RFA when OOC next year. Now ASSUMING that’s right it’s probably the opposite to this situation where a Reidy has ensured Jordan’s last year of contract is in top 25% of all players and therefore becomes a much more valuable RFA. Having a crappy list manager (Dons) can cause so much damage
Footywire are notorious for getting RFA vs UFA status wrong. They typically seem to assume that anyone coming out of contract for the first time (after qualifying for FA) is an RFA. They certainly don't have access to player salaries, so they have no way of knowing where players sit in their club's salary structure - and therefore whether they qualify for RFA status.
I suppose it's theoretically possible that Butts has a massively backloaded contract, resulting in an abnormally high salary in 2026 (the final year of his contract), qualifying him for RFA status. It's possible... but highly unlikely. I really can't see how Butts is getting paid enough to qualify for RFA status.
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Then explain why Merrett would uproot his life and move to Adelaide when he can basically choose his club of choice without the stress if he was unhappy at the Bombers...and that's if Essendon would even consider letting him go under contract?
Do you really think the Demons new coach is going to want a contracted Oliver gone or that the list management are that desperate to boot him that they will be prepared to pay a decent slice of his salary to play against them? I don't.
Aren't we supposed to still be in the race for Sam Draper as well, going to be some elite list management by Reid to get all 3 over the line without salary cap issues.
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Yes was footy wire, and another poster did warn me of the same thing hence me saying “assuming” but sounds like we can discount footywire
Is there a better source you are aware of for 2026 FA? Logic says he shouldn’t be a RFA
He looked closely at moving to Port just recently so the moving clubs interstate isn't a hassle
There is no chance they would trade him to Hawthorn or Collingwood
If he wants success then Adelaide is a perfect destination
Oliver has been trying to get out for ages we all know this....
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Players that could leave
The main Crow facing uncertain future beyond 2025 was Reilly O’Brien, prior to the ruckman signing a three-year extension, while Matt Crouchwill retire at season’s end. It leaves Taylor Walker as the only big name still without a deal, but the veteran forward’s impeccable form suggests he’ll go round again. Jordon Butts is somewhat on the outer after getting forced out of Matthew Nicks’ back six, so it’s possible a rival club could make a play for the key defender.
Players that could arrive
While O’Brien is staying at West Lakes, Adelaide is still trying to secure Bombers free agent Sam Draper, who’s also being courted by Brisbane. Draper is from South Australia and would be the perfect long-term ruck for the Crows in a period they’re primed to contend for flags. Adelaide has also been linked to out-of-contract Lions forward Callum Ah Chee. And after missing out on Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, could the Crows increase their offer to Ah Chee? Or will they look to other targets?
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That wasn’t the point of your post, it was loading up on the midfield like North. We haven’t neglected our key position players at all, the one area of weakness is our midfield and ruck. So if we load up on mids it’s not comparable to North at all.
As for getting both done, that’s a different story.
The AFL media are generally pretty good at RFA vs UFA status. Presumably they have access to AFL data which Joe Public (and Footywire) do not. Of course, this would require them to publish an article where Butts' FA status is mentioned, and it's unlikely that this would happen until next year (when he comes out of contract).
Would love Merrett but it would cost and has a relatively short shelf life. Lloyd on Footy Classified said “2 x top 15 picks” re his value.
Now I would do one first rounder - this year or next and perhaps a decent depth player like Butts or similar - but nothing more than that. Not sure Dons trade out their leader and clearly best player when the club is in turmoil already with poor performances, fitness staff sacked, list management mistakes and other players leaving (Draper and the other guy wanting to go to Lions) who Dons want to keep
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Footywire simply don't know the value of players contracts
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Getting Merrett would put us in the window for the next 3 years.
Cmon afc make it happen.
Draper: The unintended consequence of an Essendon admin error
The ruckman is still to make a call on his future.
I mentioned the other day I was surprised Butts was showing as a RFA when OOC next year. Now ASSUMING that’s right it’s probably the opposite to this situation where a Reidy has ensured Jordan’s last year of contract is in top 25% of all players and therefore becomes a much more valuable RFA. Having a crappy list manager (Dons) can cause so much damage
It's not right, the assumption is terminally flawed. Footywire defaults to restricted free agency for players that are out of contract and meet the 8 year tenure requirement. If you look at our 2026 out of contract players, Butts, Sholl and Jones are all showing as restricted with only Borlase as unrestricted, due to having been delisted in the past. Footywire doesn't update the status until AFL releases the official list. Footywire does not have access to the each club's salary cap data, so has no way of knowing who will be restricted or unrestricted when out of contract after 8 years service.
You just do a Collingwood and kick the can down the road by backloading. And when the chickens come home to roost, it's fire sale time. But if you've banked a flag, sins are easily forgiven.
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Lots of fair questions. My view:
- Merrett - Dons very unlikely to let him go as the club is close to crumbling with all the other issues inc other players leaving. Would want ÖVERS (Lloyd previous said 2 x top 15 picks) and I wouldnt pay that much if Crows as he is turning 30 in the next mth and already 250 games on the clock. I can see why Merrett would fine Crows an attractive proposition as along with Lions and Suns (and perhaps Cats and Hawks) are likely flag faves for the next 2-3 years. Unlikely to be a salary thing for him so expect 1.2m-1.3m gets it done IMO
- Dees - if they believe they need to reset/rebuild then they might as well sell of Oliver and Pets etc. If they got back a first rounder for each that would help but clearly do need to pick up a decent chunk of salary and thats the most contentious part. VlM thought it may be 1m Crows/500k Dees and not sure that works for either club to be honest based on his last 2 years output, and cultural / behavioural issues. Oliver may need to reset his salary from 1.5 back to 1ma if he wants out of Dees
- Draper rumoured 800k ish. We could probably get all 3 but would take up our total salary cap - best guess 3m spare which trigger13 with his confirmed inside industry source also confirmed we were offering NWM 3m per year for the first 2 years. And Merretts salary only 3 or 4 years maximum
Cant fault Reid over the last 5 years but getting all these 3 (clearly very unlikely) would max us out youd think, let alone leaving money for the Ah Chee and Bailey types
Likely IMO - miss out on Merrett, ideally dont want or need Draper and avoid Oliver. Get Ah Chee and go very hard at Bailey this year or next
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Im not sure its Essendon's choice, but it certainly seems like they could easily join Carlton and probably Melbourne in the firesale clubs this year.
If all 3 firesale at once we'll know the imminent Tassie team arrival is really playing on the minds of the middling teams list managers. This year is really their last chance to start an effective rebuild before its too late.
If all 3 firesale at once we'll know the imminent Tassie team arrival is really playing on the minds of the middling teams list managers. This year is really their last chance to start an effective rebuild before its too late.
Sounds like every baby boomer politician for the last 30 years creating unsustainable debt that future generations will be crippled by! Re backloading, its not smart and removes a lot of flexibility in the future to look at picking up opportunities that may arise (ie try not to be 100% fully invested at any point). And fire sales getting cents in the dollar is a very silly list management posn to ever put yourself in
Thats where Tiges nailed it last year. In theory anyway. Was it 7 top 25 ish picks AND with the Kangas stupidity now have 2 picks in the top 3-4 this year also. They have front run both Tassie and a number of other aging (Dees and Pies) or troubled (Blues, Dons) lists that need overhauls
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Yep, Id not be surprised if Richmond leapfrog all 3 of those sides next year too. Its rare that firesale sides go anywhere but down the next season.
Richmond nailed it, and will be playing finals again before you know it.
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