List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

[gouki88]

zero chance of getting him, will be a star for them

Totally agree, was just listing all the Saints key backs I could think of

 

[Apex36]

Last week on Tradies, McClure teased that a contract trigger is behind a player in a finals team not having been selected to play to date but that said player would be in for the first week of finals. Today's episode he confirmed he was talking about Cox.

Yeah ok, we weren’t playing Cox because of a contract trigger and not because he was performing like garbage.

 

[LuckyLee]

Interested to see what the club is brewing this off-season.

If we fail this year, can't see the club going around again with the same midfield setup and lack of support for Nick.

Makes be think one of Petracca or Merrett will be at the pies next year.

I don't think our midfield is the problem. We actually have the players to really freshen/speed it up but don't play them on the ball often enough. A midfield/wings rotation of Nick, DeGoey, Perryman, McCreery, Josh, Crisp, Long, Houston, Quaynor and Allan holds more than enough quality through the centre square and wings. We just need to commit to playing them there. But for that to happen, we need to phase out Mitchell (done), cease playing Pendles and Sidey in the middle and develop the likes of Parker, Harrison, Steele and TJ to backfill any positional gaps created by revamping our midfield.

I personally think our biggest list problems are our lack of any genuine A-grade key forwards and our lack of key defender depth. Hopefully we land Silvagni to help with the latter, although that's looking increasingly unlikely. I don't know how we solve the key forward situation. All of MMM are now in the B-C grade category and their declines will only accelerate from here.

 

[Scodog10]

The only possible substance that could be possibly taken from his "story" was that WC and Freo aren't interested in Bobby.

I suspect that tracks with the breakdown of his relationship and her move back to Perth. In better news he is at training which is the best outcome possible!

 

[sideswipe]

Yeah ok, we weren’t playing Cox because of a contract trigger and not because he was performing like garbage.

Such utter nonsense. If a club really was in a position where they were prepared not to pick a player because of a trigger, the rational thing to do is renegotiate the deal. Give a player a choice between playing sans trigger and not playing but retaining a(now useless) trigger and there isn't a choice.

Good story though.

 

[Apex36]

Cal and Riley on Gettable reporting that JSOS has been offered a 5 year deal at 800k a year ($4m) from the Saints, we've offered significantly less, 1.5m over the life of the deal, 4m is a massive overpay so the Saints can go for it AFAIC

$1.5m over the life of the deal is $350k per year. Assuming your post was referring to how much less we’re offering than the saints rather than the total of what we’re offering, that would mean we’re only offering $450k per year, which is absolute nonsense.

This is click bait at its worst.

 

[gouki88]

$1.5m over the life of the deal is $350k per year. Assuming your post was referring to how much less we’re offering than the saints rather than the total of what we’re offering, that would mean we’re only offering $450k per year, which is absolute nonsense.

This is click bait at its worst.

Imagine if we were able to nab him for $450k a year! The woeful compo heading to Carlton would be a great laugh

 

[Apex36]

Would have been nice for him to train with the team yesterday and have his day off today.

Clearly there was a reason that he couldn’t make that work, so stop bitching and be happy that he’s there as fly said he would be.

 

[Apex36]

Imagine if we were able to nab him for $450k a year! The woeful compo heading to Carlton would be a great laugh

The compo would be a grand total of 0!

 

[sideswipe]

Imagine if we were able to nab him for $450k a year! The woeful compo heading to Carlton would be a great laugh

The difference is closer to $1m if the numbers look like 5x800 versus 4x750

 

[thommo_legend]

$1.5m over the life of the deal is $350k per year. Assuming your post was referring to how much less we’re offering than the saints rather than the total of what we’re offering, that would mean we’re only offering $450k per year, which is absolute nonsense.

This is click bait at its worst.

we are offering 4 x 600k (2.4mill)
saints offer 5 x 800k (4.0 mill)

 

[Apex36]

we are offering 4 x 600k (2.4mill)
saints offer 5 x 800k (4.0 mill)

Either way, $1.6m is not $2m

 

[satty]

Clearly there was a reason that he couldn’t make that work, so stop bitching and be happy that he’s there as fly said he would be.

I am clearly not bitching you brainless dumbass, have always been supportive of bobby.
Clearly you lack the basic comprehension to understand the difference between demanding someone be there vs wishing seeing him run with his teammates.
Can clearly see i wasn’t criticising anyone, so get out off your high horse and zip it.

 

[Scodog10]

$1.5m over the life of the deal is $350k per year. Assuming your post was referring to how much less we’re offering than the saints rather than the total of what we’re offering, that would mean we’re only offering $450k per year, which is absolute nonsense.

This is click bait at its worst.

I think it lends support to why none of the journos can be trusted as capologists. The best I could get to was $1.2m because I’ve only seen 4x$700k.

 

[BEEG]

Merrett would be a dream

 

[gouki88]

The difference is closer to $1m if the numbers look like 5x800 versus 4x750

Even 4x700 is still closer to $1m than $1.5m (2.8 vs 4). We’d have to be around 4x650 for that kind of reporting to be close

 

[nickyds35]

Accoridng to Cal, we are "obviously tight salary cap wise".

I dont buy it, only players with long-term contracts past 2027 are N.Diacos, J.Daicos, Cameron, Hill, Perryman, Houston and Maynard. Also, our large cohort of older players are all pretty-much on rolling 1 and 2 years deals on reduced coin.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

You’re so gullible if you think that the saints offer is anything but a ploy from SOS to get Jack the biggest paycheck he can from the pies.

Well he isn't getting anywhere near from us that he would be getting from the Saints, and nor should we put ourselves into that position.
So you may be gullible thinking he's still coming to us and turning down a ridiculous offer from the Saints....

 

[sideswipe]

Accoridng to Cal, we are "obviously tight salary cap wise".

I dont buy it, only players with long-term contracts past 2027 are N.Diacos, J.Daicos, Cameron, Hill, Perryman, Houston and Maynard. Also, our large cohort of older players are all pretty-much on rolling 1 and 2 years deals on reduced coin.

Capology is uncertainty but every club is tight on salary caps. They have to be.

The difference between 95% and 100% of this year's cap is about $880k. That isn't much to play with across a full list.

 

[gouki88]

Accoridng to Cal, we are "obviously tight salary cap wise".

I dont buy it, only players with long-term contracts past 2027 are N.Diacos, J.Daicos, Cameron, Hill, Perryman, Houston and Maynard. Also, our large cohort of older players are all pretty-much on rolling 1 and 2 years deals on reduced coin.

Don’t buy it either tbh - at least, not to any worthwhile extent. Our cap would be similar to most other teams

 

[Scodog10]

Accoridng to Cal, we are "obviously tight salary cap wise".

I dont buy it, only players with long-term contracts past 2027 are N.Diacos, J.Daicos, Cameron, Hill, Perryman, Houston and Maynard. Also, our large cohort of older players are all pretty-much on rolling 1 and 2 years deals on reduced coin.

It’s clever wording because we’d absolutely be tight for 2026. Beyond that though I can’t name many signed up to 2027. There’s Moore, JDG, Shoota, IQ and McStay anyone else? There’d be room to move by then and significant room by 2028 so salary cap isn’t the issue.

 

[sideswipe]

Even 4x700 is still closer to $1m than $1.5m (2.8 vs 4). We’d have to be around 4x650 for that kind of reporting to be close

You aren't considering the apparent extra year at the Saints.

To me, that makes it worse.

 

[stormskye]

why are we giving attention to another nothing article about hill? I’ve just read it..

And I quote ““I think these conversations will ramp up towards the end of the year. I believe Bobby wants to stay himself, but that won’t stop clubs having a go”

So clubs are interested in Bobby but he wants to stay. What an amazing piece of journalism

 

[sideswipe]

why are we giving attention to another nothing article about hill? I’ve just read it..

And I quote ““I think these conversations will ramp up towards the end of the year. I believe Bobby wants to stay himself, but that won’t stop clubs having a go”

So clubs are interested in Bobby but he wants to stay. What an amazing piece of journalism

Water is wet and fire is ouchy

 

[Pistol Night]

why are we giving attention to another nothing article about hill? I’ve just read it..

And I quote ““I think these conversations will ramp up towards the end of the year. I believe Bobby wants to stay himself, but that won’t stop clubs having a go”

So clubs are interested in Bobby but he wants to stay. What an amazing piece of journalism

“Sydney Sweeney probably has no interest in Pistol but it wont stop him thinking he’s a massive chance”