List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part 3

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 3

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[stavro#4]

 

[gringo2011]

Few posters gone very quiet lately…

You don't think the sliding door was Nas resigning? He chooses to leave and we likely go backwards and players don't want in. Looking at Carlton and Essendon where players have lost hope you realise how lucky we were to get him to sign on.

I'm elated that we will hit 2026 going all guns blazing but realistically it's potentially blow the place up if this very high risk strategy goes sour.

You "positive" people seem very keen to get a pat on the head for your lack of concern. It's very needy behaviour. Quite unbecoming.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

They are taking it well over there!

Carlton 1999 preliminary final win was a deal with the devil.

For that one win they will have their century of humiliation.

 

[gringo2011]

Surely we don't worry about Aleer now?

I saw it was as a potential DFA. If he's free it's pretty low risk.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

I don't mind the JSOS recruitment as long as it means we're bailing on Aleer. He plays a similar role and is much better at it. If we now throw away trade capital to bring in Aleer to play VFL, we're mad.

Valid concerns over his durability, the obvious conflict of interest and our Carlton obsession, but JSOS does make our team better (which I'm not convinced TDK, Aleer or Ryan do). Key defensive stocks of Wilkie, Howard, JSOS, Caminiti, Tauru and Barrat is plenty for next year.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

m elated that we will hit 2026 going all guns blazing but realistically it's potentially blow the place up if this very high risk strategy goes sour.

Perfect time to go all out imo.

Weak drafts, tassie coming in and compromised drafts.

Plus we have had a record of getting value out of later picks.

The mentality needs to be "we can win flags" and we are going for it

It blows up it blows up, but **** we have done something different.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

You don't think the sliding door was Nas resigning? He chooses to leave and we likely go backwards and players don't want in. Looking at Carlton and Essendon where players have lost hope you realise how lucky we were to get him to sign on.

I'm elated that we will hit 2026 going all guns blazing but realistically it's potentially blow the place up if this very high risk strategy goes sour.

You "positive" people seem very keen to get a pat on the head for your lack of concern. It's very needy behaviour. Quite unbecoming.

 

[Armoooo]

I saw it was as a potential DFA. If he's free it's pretty low risk.

Am I missing a joke here?

 

[Armoooo]

I really don't get the concern about it blowing up on us.

Worst case scenario is our recruits are duds and we try to get rid of them or wait out their contracts. We still have a really good core of young kids coming through.

 

[Banger9798]

Getting really hard to get a best team together. Leaving out young guns whichever way it goes.

Can't find a spot for Henry, Collard or even Clark in the best 23

 

[CHBench]

I really don't get the concern about it blowing up on us.

Worst case scenario is our recruits are duds and we try to get rid of them or wait out their contracts. We still have a really good core of young kids coming through.

We've also just essentially replaced Josh Battle with Silvagni, and gained Tauru for doing so. Taking full advantage of FA. Shrewd every club would do that

 

[hangdog]

Bump him up to a million!

 

[Remboy]

We have cap space because
1. We banked 2 x 5% approx 1.8
2. We front loaded otherwise we were paying 85% in 2025, basically 3 x 5% going forward or 2.745
3. together that's about 4.7 mill.
That's what we can roughly work out. Then we have
4. A large amount of 1-3 year players on the list, AND
5. No salary cap increases are built into any contract. Apparently only us and Essendon have achieved this.

Who knows how much 4 and 5 are saving us but really even a superficial calculation of what is known numbers 1, 2, and 3) shows that the SC is not being blown up. Only lazy commentators who have agenda's and salty supporters of other clubs are spouting the maxed out SC trope.
Operators like McGuire can see what is happening.

Also, I know it's tied into your point 5 but there is a new CBA in two years when we have a lot of players coming out of contract. This gives us heaps of flexibility in re-signing players.

 

[RBW_007]

We are stockpiling some serious talent on our list.

Hopefully there's room for Heeney still

 

[Saints TV]

Done deal

Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

MG

176.9

3star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

MG

91.0

2star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

MG

131.4

3star

is officially joining St Kilda on a 5-year deal.

 

[Sully111]

Jsos is a smart footballer. That's why I want him. We need players who can make good decisions and execute, all while giving 100%. He's that type of player. The only risk is if he can stay on the park. Let's hope he can.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

A good account and an excel spreadsheet and knowing of the rules beats dodgy paperbags and farms

We do have a good accountant in Wilks.

 

[Saint12]

What fun this all is....vibes of North Melbourne in 1975....f*** it just buy buy buy.

 

[Coconut_twirl]

The Silvagni dynasty rolls on down at Moorabbin
FMD who saw that coming.

I would never pictured a world where a Silvagni pulled on a Saints jumper. But here we are.

Good luck Jack.

 

[Coconut_twirl]

I'm confused. When is the mass exodus happening? Before or after we get seven new players in?

Might be a mass exodus with delistings to make room for new players.

 

[Goddardwetrust]

Sorry if it has already been mentioned, but you guys are too prolific to search .

Are we waiting on the Gold Coast to finish their season before Flanders nominates us or is it just rumours he wants to come to us?

 

[hangdog]

.... we've lost Windy ?

Oh no! How will our powers combine?

 

[sauce_head]

Gotta love the media framing this as a positive for Carlton. Pretty sure Carlton think they’re in the premiership window.

Dee. Loo. Shone. Al….!

 

[sauce_head]

Sorry if it has already been mentioned, but you guys are too prolific to search .

Are we waiting on the Gold Coast to finish their season before Flanders nominates us or is it just rumours he wants to come to us?

Yep. We do one a week. So next week we do Flanders.

 

[projectv]

Gotta love the media framing this as a positive for Carlton. Pretty sure Carlton think they’re in the premiership window.

I'm sure they'll cook up something with those compo picks.