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There must be other vision of the wines hit because the one I have seen is not clear that there was head high contact.

What is clear is wines elected to bump and did have the opportunity to tackle so made the wrong call, had he tackled and not got cooper high it probably would’ve been ok.

In the same way Howe was concussed by that hawks player a couple of weeks ago when instead of bumping he tackled, that is the blueprint of what the league deems acceptable.
It was worth a week at best. If he tackled he ran the risk of a holding the man called to be paid downfield. Going the bump was his best option really. The action was legal as well. It's just bad luck that Cooper got concussion from the whiplash of his head.
 
Why bump if you can tackle? I think teh 'bump' is dangerous and specifically designed to block the run of an opponent as a best case and as a worse case. do damage to an unprotected and unaware player - ban it. Besides a properly executed tackle hurts the opponent more - if you know what you are doing. Wines was very late with the hit agt least a step and half - Lord was cutting them to pieces before that hit.
The bump is good for shepherding other players away from the ball carrier.
 
It was worth a week at best. If he tackled he ran the risk of a holding the man called to be paid downfield. Going the bump was his best option really. The action was legal as well. It's just bad luck that Cooper got concussion from the whiplash of his head.
Fair enough, the only vision I’ve seen doesn’t provide enough evidence for suspension imo.
My difference in opinion with you is that players now know that if they elect to bump there is a high risk of suspension particularly if their opponent is concussed.

That fact suggests that the bump wasn’t the best option in terms of downfield free kick vs weeks on the sidelines, especially as the game was fairly lopsided and the result meaningless for premiership contention.

I guess my point is players know bumping is risky, so tackle instead.
 

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Fair enough, the only vision I’ve seen doesn’t provide enough evidence for suspension imo.
My difference in opinion with you is that players now know that if they elect to bump there is a high risk of suspension particularly if their opponent is concussed.

That fact suggests that the bump wasn’t the best option in terms of downfield free kick vs weeks on the sidelines, especially as the game was fairly lopsided and the result meaningless for premiership contention.

I guess my point is players know bumping is risky, so tackle instead.
In the heat of the moment, making a decision to bump a player and possible get the ball to spill on your forward 50 so you can sweep it up and kick a goal, or electing to tackle knowing that there is no one else from your side near the ball carrier, which decision do you make. It was a glory play TBF.
 
We hear it every time there is a debatable suspension about split second decisions and heat of battle stuff but reality is he has been rubbed out (even if it was just for a week like you opine).

The era of electing to bump instead of protecting the head is long gone.

If you bump there is a high chance of getting weeks (whether I personally agree or not) Wines chose to bump, he should have tackled and as a result he is suspended and Cooper has to sit out with concussion which is awful timing for Coop because another full game in the middle playing Cerra’s role with a victory would do him a world of good.

As a blues fan, I don’t give two hoots about wines and his poor choice, I care that Lord doesn’t get to play this Thursday night, and if it was a Carlton player who got suspended I’d be telling that player he should have tackled too.
 
Why bump if you can tackle? I think teh 'bump' is dangerous and specifically designed to block the run of an opponent as a best case and as a worse case. do damage to an unprotected and unaware player - ban it. Besides a properly executed tackle hurts the opponent more - if you know what you are doing. Wines was very late with the hit agt least a step and half - Lord was cutting them to pieces before that hit.
Agree, it looked like Wines had committed to bump a couple of steps away and arrived late as Lord kicks the ball. Lord also seemed to be leaning into his kick making his head even more vulnerable.

You can argue whether it was incidental, accidental or careless. But bumping a player who’s in the motion of kicking and can’t protect or brace themselves for impact, is quite dangerous and doesn’t feel right to me.

I’m probably in the minority but don’t have an issue with Wines suspension for a late high bump.
 
Looks high to me Stamos, with Wines shoulder collecting Lord’s head.

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Tribunal also agreed ruling … “The bump on Lord, who had just kicked the ball, was considered high contact, severe impact and careless conduct.”

Doesn’t look high in the video
 
Looks high to me Stamos, with Wines shoulder collecting Lord’s head.

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Tribunal also agreed ruling … “The bump on Lord, who had just kicked the ball, was considered high contact, severe impact and careless conduct.”

They penalised him for the outcome rather than the action. Lord kicks the ball and is off-balance just as Wines bumps him. Lord' head snapped back during the collision. It was just shit luck he got concussed.
 

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