NO TROLLS Rankine handed a 4 match suspension by the AFL integrity unit for a homophobic slur against opponent

[janty]

I’m a queer footy fan. Last night’s targeted booing by Crows fans just set the game back, says Monique Van Der Heyden

I’m a queer footy fan. Last night’s targeted booing by Crows fans just set the game back

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[Toump Ass]

I’m a queer footy fan. Last night’s targeted booing by Crows fans just set the game back, says Monique Van Der Heyden

I’m a queer footy fan. Last night’s targeted booing by Crows fans just set the game back

www.foxsports.com.au

I wonder what this Monique Vanderheyden person and Rita Panahi talk about at the Sky News Christmas party.

 

[The Blue Max]

I can understand you want to water down the situation, but you are wrong it was the loudest booing of the night whenever Quaynor was in possession of the ball. Mass booing a guy for calling out a homophobic slur

Reminds me of what happened to a certain indigenous player when he called out a racist remark.

It drove him out of the game.

Unrelenting , unjustified hostility towards any individual is bullying, regardless of how ‘much’ people think they ‘should be able to take’.

It's a form of mental disintegration, practiced by lower echelon primates for 1000s of years.

 

[The Blue Max]

The mass condemning of the booing in the media has a massive chance to back fire. They've learned nothing in regards of trying to direct the crowd on what they can and cannot boo.

Without question - those same persons fiercely guard their rights to behave like monkeys in a zoo.

 

[VinnieB]

I think not tbh given the Adam Goodes experience. The usual commentators had a field day with him, I cite it as a classic example of racism being given legitimacy because he pointed at the wrong people, said the wrong things in a speech and didn't keep his views to himself. Plenty of West Coast fans were happily booing and saying it was because he took out a player in a game two years before, even when Goodes and others asked people to stop.

AFL, Media all let him down.
To be honest, while I don’t ‘boo’, at the time I thought he was being booed for other reasons.

I’m embarrassed that I ‘didn’t get it’ at the time.

But, we’ve all come a long way the past 10 years, and a lot of us have learnt why it was totally wrong.

 

[Festerz]

I’m a queer footy fan. Last night’s targeted booing by Crows fans just set the game back, says Monique Van Der Heyden

I’m a queer footy fan. Last night’s targeted booing by Crows fans just set the game back

www.foxsports.com.au

And sections of the crow supporter base have also expressed their anger at the behaviour. Not just the booing but homophobic slurs as well. And they're not happy with the way John Olsen and the crows management have handled it.

'I felt ashamed': Crows fans hit out at homophobic slurs during QF

Adelaide fans are threatening to cancel their memberships after a Collingwood star was targeted during the AFL qualifying final.

www.abc.net.au

 

[VinnieB]

I can understand you want to water down the situation, but you are wrong it was the loudest booing of the night whenever Quaynor was in possession of the ball. Mass booing a guy for calling out a homophobic slur

Correction. He did not call out the homophonic slur. He was guilty in the eyes of fans for being the subject of the slur.

 

[The Blue Max]

Correction. He did not call out the homophonic slur. He was guilty in the eyes of fans for being the subject of the slur.

That makes it even more aberrant and warped.

 

[Festerz]

The mass condemning of the booing in the media has a massive chance to back fire. They've learned nothing in regards of trying to direct the crowd on what they can and cannot boo.

The difference this time, the big difference, is that it's not AFL House, or club officials or politicians calling out the boorish behaviour.

It's large parts of the media, the supporters of all other clubs and a large % of the crow supporter base themselves who are calling it out and shaming those responsible - those doing the booing and the piss poor way the AFL and the Crows handled the original suspension.

There's a strong element of peer pressure at work here. And that's always effective in changing behaviours.

 

[RCAB]

I'm saying the Crows supporters who booed Quaynor was because they think he also targeted Rankine with saying what Houston did to Rankine last year, that's why Houston was also booed and I heard it was multiple Collingwood players who did this.

You haven't answered my post:

-I'm asking...whether there's ever justification for using a homophobic slur...

-What you personally believe about this kind of language...

-Or your acknowledgement of the ethics or gravity of the term used

Can you answer any of those points?

 

[RCAB]

I am implying that Quaynor who is not gay and was not offended by the comments and moved on, yet other Collingwood players actively chose to make it an issue and by doing so gained a significant advantage in a final. You can draw your own conclusion what the motivation to do so was.

Based on this post, it doesn't really matter what you think, regardless of username.

 

[JimmyBC]

I'm saying the Crows supporters who booed Quaynor was because they think he also targeted Rankine with saying what Houston did to Rankine last year, that's why Houston was also booed and I heard it was multiple Collingwood players who did this.

Copium overdose.

 

[El_Scorcho]

The Adelaide club leadership laid the groundwork for the booing by pissing and moaning and fighting the ban the whole way, never meaningfully acknowledging the harm that was done and playing it down.

I feel for the Crows supporters who have had to sit through the last few of weeks as one of their best players, the club and then a section of the supporter base have let them down massively on this issue. The vast majority would be embarassed by the booing and to their credit I've seen a heap of people calling it out on social media.

 

[JHF1870]

So you just read the extreme sides of the argument and assumed that represented all of our thoughts? Why is the internet incapable of nuance? Clearly we weren’t all booing, but sure, paint us with the same brush if it helps you.

There will always be sections of every supporter base across any sport in the world that boo for a multitude of reasons, good luck stopping it. I find booing pointless, but in a crowd of 50000 I’m sure you’ll always have a small minority that think it’s their right to boo if they’ve paid for a ticket. Some people were booing Frampton, it’s never rational.

Footy culture is toxic. I've given up on Facebook because of the level of toxicity. Rioli has copped so much abuse online over his troubled season. The comment sections are horrendous and Meta should really be doing more about it. In my opinion there's a lot of deflection going on because people doing it don't have their lives in order so they have to attack athletes to feel better.

I'd be embarrassed to see myself on the TV booing a player. It's lame.

I honestly think Adelaide and the AFL should have done more. With what happened last night, how is a gay player ever going to have the courage to express themselves freely?

It also happens with all clubs, I'll never pin it on a supporter base because that's cheap. We had low level supporters jeering Ben Cousins back in 2007 when he got injured.

 

[ABAB]

Copium overdose.

So you think they booed Quaynor because he is gay???? Just like Collingwood supporters booed Goodes because of his race or because he was a very good player and others were booing him.

 

[SC_Power]

Controversy is clearly encouraged in all things that create ratings and $$$$$$$

This is no different

Or am I mistaken that the moral compass of all those in charge is super diligent

Start a thread on them

Stop using them as an excuse or a diversion

 

[JHF1870]

Yeah, many booed Goodes, with no idea why they were doing it other than to be part of the mob behaviour.

Then, when challenged as to why they were booing, they desperately scrambled for reasons - anything really - to justify why they were doing it.

It was truly a shameful episode. There were a lot of morons following our game back then, and it seems there are still plenty doing so to this day sadly.

I notice that a lot of the vocal people on social media are +50

The number of times I've looked at a trolls profile, or someone spitting out racist or homophobic commentary I see a 50+ white guy with a photo of his bike or car.

 

[JHF1870]

So you think they booed Quaynor because he is gay???? Just like Collingwood supporters booed Goodes because of his race or because he was a very good player and others were booing him.

I think it's 100% clear in this particular case.

Rankine used a homophobic slur
Collingwood (Quaynor) from my understanding reported it.
Adelaide and Rankine publicly owned it (Partially)
Crows fans resenting Quaynor booed him for contesting the slur.

Pretty clear cut to me. Those fans are trash for booing Quaynor for reporting the incident.

 

[Underarm]

So you think they booed Quaynor because he is gay???? Just like Collingwood supporters booed Goodes because of his race or because he was a very good player and others were booing him.

You never answered my question.

Why did the media pinpoint Quaynor's behaviour after the last match?

 

[JHF1870]

At the end of the day letting players get away with this sort of behaviour will only hamper players who are gay from coming out, and statistically there will be plenty in the competition currently who are, do we really want to create an environment where they don't feel comfortable being who they are?

Good people don't use homophobic slurs, it's that simple. There are so many other words that can be used, it's very easy not to jump to a word that has negative connotations to an entire community.

It's not about "championing external causes" it's called being a good person and not being a dickhead.

I feel like in my life 2008-2013 was about the point in which these matters started being taken more seriously. In my workplace the F word was used regularly nearly every day prior to 2008. Within that space people acknowledged that it wasn't a part of society.

The only times I've heard the word used beyond that was once at the footy but not that word Someone used the H word at Tom Hawkins at one of my games. And once from some guy directing it at me as a joke because of this issue (Only us in the room)

 

[ABAB]

You never answered my question.

Why did the media pinpoint Quaynor's behaviour after the last match?

Because someone known on X for posting BS said it was Quaynor who had painted finger nails was subject to the F word??? I heard it wasn't even Quaynor who the F word was directed at and he didn't have painted finger nails.

 

[JHF1870]

The mass condemning of the booing in the media has a massive chance to back fire. They've learned nothing in regards of trying to direct the crowd on what they can and cannot boo.

Personally, I'd be happy for people to get called out for slurs in the crowd on social media particularly to set an example of how Not to behave while at a game.

 

[Hot Dogma]

So you think they booed Quaynor because he is gay???? Just like Collingwood supporters booed Goodes because of his race or because he was a very good player and others were booing him.

When did this happen? It was a 13yo Collingwood supporter that yelled a racist slur over the fence at Goodes, but when did Collingwood supporters boo Goodes? It certainly wasn't at the game where the slur occurred because no one knew what had happened at the game.

 

[Xtreme]

Personally, I'd be happy for people to get called out for slurs in the crowd on social media particularly to set an example of how Not to behave while at a game.

I agree with calling out offensive language. But booing surely can't be banned (probably will be soon, same as no more tackles or bumps!!).

 

[crowman2]

I agree with calling out offensive language. But booing surely can't be banned (probably will be soon, same as no more tackles or bumps!!).

Booing will never be banned

Unless every AFL game is sold out it’s more important to get market share and atmosphere at the games booing is atmosphere makes great TV