List Mgmt. 2025 Premiership(s) List Making and Trading

[1990crow]

We need blokes that will take us further in finals, not pad out scores against weaker sides. A ruthless side would trade Keays.

Let's see how the semi goes.

 

[1990crow]

Midfield of Rachele, Oliver, Dawson, Rankine, Peatling, Soligo is good enough.
Get Oliver and train Rachele with the mids over the offseason.

 

[Cromulant]

We need blokes that will take us further in finals, not pad out scores against weaker sides. A ruthless side would trade Keays.

Ruthless sides have guys like Billy Frampton, Rhys Stanley, Darcy Fort etc in them too.

Not everyone can be an A grader

 

[AFC979810]

We need blokes that will take us further in finals, not pad out scores against weaker sides. A ruthless side would trade Keays.

Pump the brakes.

He kicked 3 against Geelong in rd 5, 2 against the Power in Rd 8, 3 against the Lions in a win in rd 13.

Lets not act like he goes missing all the time.

 

[_SirStealthy01]

Like Hawthorn, need that extra mid. They aren’t exactly attainable, but all you can do is try. If you get Ah Chee, at least that can free up a bit more of Rachele or Rankine on ball.

Have a couple of handy young players in Draper and Curtin to develop too. Your club’s in a very good place, time to keep pushing and capitalise

hopefully Indy Cotton can develop into a star as well

 

[Cromulant]

hopefully Indy Cotton can develop into a star as well

And they can spend 15 years saying "Its that basketball background"

 

[Shuestar13]

hopefully Indy Cotton can develop into a star as well

I will need to read the thread on him. Sounds like an interesting prospect

 

[GreyCrow]

If we’ve got two first rounders to throw around then try and get Dyson Sharp - much better bet for my money.

While I tend to agree and dont want Oliver -the bigger issue of course is trust

We wont trust a draftee until year 3

We wont play them and our window is now. Draftees like Draper and Sharp are the extenders of a window

 

[ABAB]

While I tend to agree and dont want Oliver -the bigger issue of course is trust

We wont trust a draftee until year 3

We wont play them and our window is now. Draftees like Draper and Sharp are the extenders of a window

Did you think our list can really contend for the premiership at the start of the year??? I thought we had a list to play Finals and should have played last year but we are still a few years from having a list to contend for the premiership, we overachieved this year.

 

[GreyCrow]

Did you think our list can really contend for the premiership at the start of the year??? I thought we had a list to play Finals and should have played last year but we are still a few years from having a list to contend for the premiership, we overachieved this year.

I thought we would win 14 games and then take it from there

Never ever stop thinking you cant make it because then you wont. Stop pushing the opportunity back a few years

I reckon if I go back I will see posts of yours from 3 years ago giving the same timeline

Believe and it will happen

 

[Slim258]

Everyone just needs to take a minute, we were never going to win the Premiership this year, we might get close, but right now there are better sides in the competition. We have had a ripper year, no doubt about it, but lets not get to disappointed and throw the toys out of the cot. We had 16 players play their first final last night, to win finals you need experience.

There is a lot of similarities between us now and Brisbane in 2019:

	Brisbane Ladder Pos.	Finals Form	Best 22 Players Added			Adelaide Ladder Pos.	Finals Form	Best 22 Players Added
2014​	15​				2020​	18​		Hinge, Keays, Thilthorpe, Pedlar, Berry
2015​	17​		Hipwood,		2021​	15​		Dawson, Rachele, Soligo, Taylor
2016​	17​		McCluggage, Berry,		2022​	14​		Rankine, Michalanney, Keane
2017​	18​		Cameron, Rayner, Bailey, Starcevich,		2023​	10​		Curtin
2018​	15​		Neale, Answerth		2024​	15​		Cumming, Peatling, ANB
2019​	2​	L, L	Ah Chee,		2025​	1​	L

They added 10 players in that 5 year period from 2014 to 2019 that are best 22 players, between 2020 and their flag in 2024 they added another 6 including Dunkley, Daniher and Will Ashcroft, thats 16 first team inclusions between their rebuild through '14 to '19 and then finals/premiership push from '20 to '24. They also went out in straight sets 2019, before winning their flag 5 years later.

We have added 16 best 22 players within our 5 year rebuild, with hopefully a few more this year as we transition from rebuild to finals/premiership push. It's a journey, lets not get ahead of ourselves.

 

[Rix31]

Will Brodie

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Will Brodie

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

at Freo looked really good a few years ago. Apparently Port are into him but I can't imagine why they want more mids. Could be worth a look.

 

[Crow till I die]

Did you think our list can really contend for the premiership at the start of the year??? I thought we had a list to play Finals and should have played last year but we are still a few years from having a list to contend for the premiership, we overachieved this year.

Its why winning at least 1 final this year will be invaluable for the progress of the side. That will give them belief they can win finals.

 

[Mostyn]

Will Brodie at Freo looked really good a few years ago. Apparently Port are into him but I can't imagine why they want more mids. Could be worth a look.

He's ludicrously slow. I can't see how he plays AFL level footy.

 

[Bob Neil]

Short memory here I think - Oliver was the definition of high impact player at his peak.
Start of 2023 he was clearly the best player in the league.

I would acknowledge and accept that he was highly rated and possibly even considered among the top handful in the league (not clearly the best and not sure if it was 2023 but a year or two earlier coinciding with Melbourne’s peak) but I think it was part of a general premium placed at the time on high stat gatherers which has now faded rapidly in favour of higher impact players. I don’t think he was ever an elite user of the ball and I’m definitely sceptical that he will ever approach anything like his previous form. Once lost it’s bloody hard to recapture.

 

[1990crow]

I would acknowledge and accept that he was highly rated and possibly even considered among the top handful in the league (not clearly the best and not sure if it was 2023 but a year or two earlier coinciding with Melbourne’s peak) but I think it was part of a general premium placed at the time on high stat gatherers which has now faded rapidly in favour of higher impact players. I don’t think he was ever an elite user of the ball and I’m definitely sceptical that he will ever approach anything like his previous form. Once lost it’s bloody hard to recapture.

Time will tell.

 

[BRL121]

I would acknowledge and accept that he was highly rated and possibly even considered among the top handful in the league (not clearly the best and not sure if it was 2023 but a year or two earlier coinciding with Melbourne’s peak) but I think it was part of a general premium placed at the time on high stat gatherers which has now faded rapidly in favour of higher impact players. I don’t think he was ever an elite user of the ball and I’m definitely sceptical that he will ever approach anything like his previous form. Once lost it’s bloody hard to recapture.

He's an elite handballer out of traffic.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I would say Hawks, Pies, Saints, Cats and maybe North will fly up the ladder as the main vic prospects for a premiership. The AFL will conspire against the Saints and North though. They will not want a club who couldnt fill out a suburban amateur league ground getting anywhere near finals.

North?

Why do you think that?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Oliver is far more damaging than Merrett and 2 years Younger. There is no chance in hell we pass over Oliver for a 30yo.

Merrett more likely has more good football left in him.

 

[adelaidecrows]

North?

Why do you think that?

The amount of young top end first rounders they have are really going to drive that club into contention at some point.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

The amount of young top end first rounders they have are really going to drive that club into contention at some point.

They are futher proof that high draft picks alone is no guarantee of success.

They are miles off!

 

[1990crow]

Merrett more likely has more good football left in him.

That really depends on whether Oliver can get fit

 

[adelaidecrows]

They are futher proof that high draft picks alone is no guarantee of success.

They are miles off!

Not as far off as we may like to believe.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

That really depends on whether Oliver can get fit

Mentally fit.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Not as far off as we may like to believe.

5 wins... they are miles off.