Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[Interdimensional Bigfoot]

Looks like Worpel might be a pretty good get. Dominating clearances against GWS.

I was very critical of him, but he's played well.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Looks like Worpel might be a pretty good get. Dominating clearances against GWS.

Worpel will be more useful for us than people think.

 

[Turbocat]

Worpel will be more useful for us than people think.

He will add an inside body to help axe. I would think they might have to reprogram him a bit ..he does long bomb it a bit

 

[thegerman]

He will add an inside body to help axe. I would think they might have to reprogram him a bit ..he does long bomb it a bit

Getting it in quickly in the forward line is beneficial to us though

 

[DanA]

He will add an inside body to help axe. I would think they might have to reprogram him a bit ..he does long bomb it a bit

I agree but I also think it’s easy to remember when you see guys like Holmes, Smith, Miers, and Mannagh hit up our forwards.

9 clearances in a final is definitely decent going. Even more so considering he’s played 70% TOG and attended only 2/3rd of the centre bounces.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

He will add an inside body to help axe. I would think they might have to reprogram him a bit ..he does long bomb it a bit

He does a bit but I think be can be programmed to hand off to the dash brothers. What he does (if we dont get bruhn back) is it allows us to use Max on the outside where hes more damaging and i think thats super crucial.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Im much the same.

We have been lucky sometimes..and this year ..at first look we have been unlucky with a couple of players availability.. and maybe we see those two end up costing us some decnt picks and producing not much. Bad luck

Plenty of other clubs would love to have the bad luck we have endured. Kolo being out for the year has enable COS to play..probably means we need how that plays out but id not be dropping COS now

The truth is we could add no one but a couple of rucks to list and still be fine next year… and we know we will add a small goal kicking forward.

Id normally not do it for Marshall but a few reasons makes it the right thing to get it done..as long as Stk do not get all crzytown. The 30 year old thing is a concern. We could get to this spot in 12 months and we are talking injury again.

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Moyle not selected. Its unlikely but id certainly touch base with Moyle and go hard with a big offer just to see if he is unequivocally unavailable.

We have Edwards, Mollier and Pike. I think thats probably one too many young and developing rucks. Would a seasoned body delisted ruck be a better option as a rookie? We have been linkled as one of the clubs lookig at the USA boys but ..again… Blitz is a rare beast. How likely is it you get a USA guy that is a legit selection option.

Agree with all that. Moyle was stupid to sign til 2028 he would be a starting ruck at a few other clubs. Id talk to his manager again but if you can't get him or ramsden out (I watched ramsden again in the vfl today) then I think you have to pay up for Marshall. The mature ruck market is thin and the kids we have wont be ready next year. Blitz will be 35 you can't ask him to be no1 ruck every week so we just have to pay our picks this year and get marshall. It will be interesting to see who else we grab if they refuse to release him as I dont think we can wait 12 months when we are in the window.

 

[ShaunWDT]

Worpel will finish 2026 in the magoos in our system tbh, adds nothing that we don't already have and would have to move better players around to allow him to play his best role, only possible way it would work is if hes content to be 5th or 6th in a rotation and have low time on ground (why would he leave Hawks to be in that scenario).

 

[nohairandfair]

Worpel will be more useful for us than people think.

He's second rate. DO NOT WANT.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

He's second rate. DO NOT WANT.

Get used to it. Revisit in 12 months.

 

[thegerman]

Worpel will finish 2026 in the magoos in our system tbh, adds nothing that we don't already have and would have to move better players around to allow him to play his best role, only possible way it would work is if hes content to be 5th or 6th in a rotation and have low time on ground (why would he leave Hawks to be in that scenario).

I cannot count the amount of times we have judged a player before he came to us via draft or trade where we’ve got it totally wrong. How about we trust the list managers who seem to know what they are doing considering we have been perpetually in the mix for the past 20 years.

Myself included, I’ve got it wrong quite a few times. Gladly recognise how we develop and improve the list

 

[Schmuck]

Worpel will finish 2026 in the magoos in our system tbh, adds nothing that we don't already have and would have to move better players around to allow him to play his best role, only possible way it would work is if hes content to be 5th or 6th in a rotation and have low time on ground (why would he leave Hawks to be in that scenario).

Shaun from Bigfooty knows better than the GFC hierarchy…

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Shaun from Bigfooty knows better than the GFC hierarchy…

Watching Worpel yesterday against GWS, I thought he would be a very handy player for us. His inside work is quite good and will get better with our coaching staff's guidance. I think Worpel might be a good get for us.

 

[nohairandfair]

Watching Worpel yesterday against GWS, I thought he would be a very handy player for us. His inside work is quite good and will get better with our coaching staff's guidance. I think Worpel might be a good get for us.

He’s a depth player and limited. The Hawks don’t want him for a reason.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Worpel will finish 2026 in the magoos in our system tbh, adds nothing that we don't already have and would have to move better players around to allow him to play his best role, only possible way it would work is if hes content to be 5th or 6th in a rotation and have low time on ground (why would he leave Hawks to be in that scenario).

So why would the GFC and its recruiting/list management people pursue him..??
Do they believe he is an upgrade from Clark/Stevens??
Cam is done.
Danger is 35 soon to be 36 and an injury away from months on the pine. If indeed he goes around again.
Something doesn't seem right here for me or some.
Is Danger finished at year's end??
A premiership victory would be a Selwood scenario all over again.
Interesting times.

 

[Kitcat]

He’s a depth player and limited. The Hawks don’t want him for a reason.

They don’t want Worpel! He is about to play in a semi and has been offered a 4 year contract. They might want to get a draft pick for him to get a different type of player in, but he is obviously valued even when having a season when he has been down on form.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Just some PUB talk from the other night.
So why would Ross Lyon and his crew target a Ruckman(TDK) when they have a great one of their own?
Not that great? Limitations? Too old? Not mobile or athletic enough for his vision of the modern game?
Going forward where mobile rucks are gonna be the trend is he expendable?
Another period of opinions, debate, arguments and frustrations in the upcoming weeks prior to the draft and trade week for the great folk on here.
Love It!!!
Cheers Boys and how great is it to be Cat fan these days!!
My kids will never know what it was like to live through the 70's and 80's... and 90's lol.
Go Caters!!

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

He’s a depth player and limited. The Hawks don’t want him for a reason.

The Hawks do want him, and they have offered him a 4-year deal, IIRC. The decision to leave Hawthorn will be Worpel's. The media is reporting he wants out. Make of that as you will, but to suggest the Hawks don't want him is wrong.

 

[Commando]

Watching Worpel yesterday against GWS, I thought he would be a very handy player for us. His inside work is quite good and will get better with our coaching staff's guidance. I think Worpel might be a good get for us.

The most appealing thing about Worpel
Is no trade capital and PNP
Ready to go mature body in the midfield

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

The most appealing thing about Worpel
Is no trade capital and PNP
Ready to go mature body in the midfield

Exactly.

 

[Commando]

Exactly.

Similar to Marshall
May pay overs but he's a ready to go ruck and we are in the window
Have to do it.

 

[Hinkley29]

It is overs, and is yet another example of money distorting the game, and the unhealthy allegiance to money that is overwhelming it.

Sure, players want to set themselves up, but Silvagni $4mil, TDK $13mil +, etc??

Nah. I see an element of greed pervading the game.

As usual, Australian sport is about 10-15 years behind US sport and European soccer in how it evolves.

If we continue to follow their lead, the current wave of contracts is just the beginning. In a short period of time the disconnect between the players and fans (in terms of relatability) will grow to the point of being irredeemable, the fan experience will be unattainable for the average person and the game will just be a platform for corporate marketing. It has started to be that way already, but it will be magnified in a massive way.

In the not too distant future, the super rich will be owning clubs, and a breakaway elite competition backed by media interests will be proposed. This competition will either be successful in starting up, or the AFL will be forced into a merger of sorts with the proposed venture to ensure its survival.

Old geezers like me will bemoan how it wasn’t as good as the old days, all while corporate theatre goers and social media addicted young people will be more interested in winning trade period than they are in winning the flag.

Welcome to the future, it will be here before you know it.

 

[Lana]

As usual, Australian sport is about 10-15 years behind US sport and European soccer in how it evolves.

If we continue to follow their lead, the current wave of contracts is just the beginning. In a short period of time the disconnect between the players and fans (in terms of relatability) will grow to the point of being irredeemable, the fan experience will be unattainable for the average person and the game will just be a platform for corporate marketing. It has started to be that way already, but it will be magnified in a massive way.

In the not too distant future, the super rich will be owning clubs, and a breakaway elite competition backed by media interests will be proposed. This competition will either be successful in starting up, or the AFL will be forced into a merger of sorts with the proposed venture to ensure its survival.

Old geezers like me will bemoan how it wasn’t as good as the old days, all while corporate theatre goers and social media addicted young people will be more interested in winning trade period than they are in winning the flag.

Welcome to the future, it will be here before you know it.

Right now the major stakeholders of the AFL are all local, but with foxtel and Kayo being sold to a Russian oligarch, it wouldn't surprise me if the next AFL rights get spread over a bunch of US based streaming services. Increased exposure to the US betting markets are going to be so lucrative

 

[Hinkley29]

To use a late R1 on a mature player in an area of real need probably makes more sense than adding another chunk of slow burn wood onto the fire in the VFL. Lets face it its probably going to be tough for any kid to break in….

Some of these rucks that are happy to sit behind other make ones head ache. Moyle and Goad and Madden etc . Witts is 33 so Moyle is probably hoping it will no be long but it still could be years. Once they start winning , he is probably going to want to hang around for as long as possible. ..but .. Moyle is 24 next year. He would be ideal. … but he is contracted and GC would not let him go.

It all probably depends on Conway . If he manages to stay fit ..the next year no matter who we recruit he probably plays… and then Heath would be a great option to give relief for a player like Conway.

Its more about what if he doesnt. Then. if we only add a guys like Heath.( Looks a strong body and maybe he is ready to be the #1 in 2026 but who knows..). or the untried verrall or Knobel etc …we could just have no coverage that the MC trust and we end up throwing Sam to the wolves again.

Back up ruckman is like being a back up quarterback.

You get paid good money for being an insurance policy that rarely (if ever) plays. Because you don’t play you never get exposed as not being good enough, which means you stay on a list for 5 years longer than you should.

Call it the Brayden Preuss effect. He stayed on a list for 10 years whilst playing 28 decidedly mediocre games. What a great gig.

If goad and madden go to a club where they will actually play, they will be exposed as either being good enough or not. Usually they are no good. Staying at a club where you can sit behind a quality durable ruckman is often a better career move.

 

[Reg Hickey]

But Gawn is the only really example of it happening that way and he’s a generational player. Who not only went through injury issues but he changed his mindset and preparation to get himself ready for AFL footy.

Yes rucks often take time but people speak about the path that Gawn took as though it’s common. Most of the other good rucks either did perform well early or at least played consistent footy at a level then took bigger steps to further their development.

We all hope he’s another miracle story but that seems more unlikely. Dawson Simpson is the more likely scenario.

Injury aside, I don’t agree with this.

Xerri is 26 and was nowhere until the last two seasons. Could’ve easily been AA this year.

Meek is 27 and a similar story. Not as good as Xerri, but took as long.

In fact, I’d argue Grundy is really the only “recent” ruck who came in and killed it inside his first 50-70 games.