Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXIX

[Ninja Worrier]

Gesundheit

Wouldn't it be zhufu ni?

 

[Aphrodite]

Voss said straight up in his interview that Charlie raised the prospect of a trade. Not his manager, the coach said Charlie asked the question.

In all honesty I didn't listen to Voss's interview.

 

[Rosscoe 17]

You're a Silvagni family plant and I'm convinced of it. You only ever comment when something is said about them.

But to answer your question on face value... For starters, neither Davies nor Hinkley will come over on contracts worth 40-150% more than what they're offered elsewhere.

I can support Carlton and the Silvagni's at the same time...don't get all the emotional thinking surrounding them. I have all sorts of players I enjoy following; I am not one dimensional.

You never answered my question; you don't see a conflict of interest when it comes to friends? only when it comes to family?

 

[The_BigFella]

Thanks for the perspective. FWIW Acres was mentioned in multiple “dispatches” weeks ago as being on West Coast’s radar. Has accordingly been seen as on the table since that time.

We are in a bit of a reset removing “conditional” players. Acres has been a hard read this year. Impacted by injury, but has seemed very blasé in his commitment and endured some time in the twos late in the year. Despite his untidy disposal, has been a great get with his work ethic, but did show an obvious decline this year.

I completely agree with all the above, and I think it would make sense for both clubs. That said, given where he is at right now, I’d be surprised if he moved to Perth.

 

[Wickzki]

I can support Carlton and the Silvagni's at the same time...don't get all the emotional thinking surrounding them. I have all sorts of players I enjoy following; I am not one dimensional.

You never answered my question; you don't see a conflict of interest when it comes to friends? only when it comes to family?

Honestly, no I do not see a conflict of interest with Davies and Hinkley.

Show me where Hinkley and Davies have ever worked with Graeme Wright previously.

I can show you a lifetime of connection between SOS, Jack, Ross and Gubby Allen.

And good on you for having all sorts of players that you enjoy. Perhaps you could diversify your BigFooty contributions instead of being the surrogate Silvagni family apologist?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Twomey: Port not looking at Motlop now

 

[katmanblue]

He is an idiot.

And we all get painted with the same brush

 

[Shambolic]

I completely agree with all the above, and I think it would make sense for both clubs. That said, given where he is at right now, I’d be surprised if he moved to Perth.

I do think Acres has looked overweight and unfit given his injury. He looked slow this year. Kicking off. I suspect he’s the type to need a great run at it.

I’d be happy for him to stay as he was awesome in 2023. But an unfit winger isn’t that valuable.

 

[Matty411]

Keep Motlop. He'll get plenty of chances over the next 12m to show the club he has a big future. But a 1-year deal is fair given the doubts and flaws in his game. Absolutely worth more to us than what we'd get in any trade.

I hope Jesse has a huge preseason and starts dominating games; finds a little bit of extra space; and starts to kick a few more snags. Kids love him and is a great character.

 

[Rosscoe 17]

Honestly, no I do not see a conflict of interest with Davies and Hinkley.

Show me where Hinkley and Davies have ever worked with Graeme Wright previously.

I can show you a lifetime of connection between SOS, Jack, Ross and Gubby Allen.

And good on you for having all sorts of players that you enjoy. Perhaps you could diversify your BigFooty contributions instead of being the surrogate Silvagni family apologist?

I don't see a conflict of interest with Davies, Voss and Hinkley; like I don't see a conflict of interest with JSOS.

It is almost as if you believe there are no adults other than SOS at St Kilda.

 

[StanleyBeren]

I don't see a conflict of interest with Davies, Voss and Hinkley; like I don't see a conflict of interest with JSOS.

It is almost as if you believe there are no adults other than SOS at St Kilda.

It's almost like you believe the list manager had no input in the recruitment of a player.

 

[SurreyBlue]

It's almost like you believe the list manager had no input in the recruitment of a player.

Both SoS and Lyon would have a big say in recruiting JSoS. As this isn’t a drafting task, it would sit more with the coach who would know the opposition players well and see them more than a list manager. IMO, Lyon would have a big say and he isn’t one to be pushed either way.

 

[Matty411]

Don't get me wrong, I'm okay with SOS leaving now and to Saints who'll net us a first rounder in his place.

But the whole thing screams orchestrated nepotism by STK and Allen/SOS. Played the Blues, Pies and Dogs. I hope Jack is ready for the pressure - especially if the Saints can't hold onto guys like Windhager and Wilkie.

 

[Sam The Doc]

Don't get me wrong, I'm okay with SOS leaving now and to Saints who'll net us a first rounder in his place.

But the whole thing screams orchestrated nepotism by STK and Allen/SOS. Played the Blues, Pies and Dogs. I hope Jack is ready for the pressure - especially if the Saints can't hold onto guys like Windhager and Wilkie.

yeah someone eluded to that. ie wanting to play defence this year was never for us.. haha

 

[DangerousD]

Don't get me wrong, I'm okay with SOS leaving now and to Saints who'll net us a first rounder in his place.

But the whole thing screams orchestrated nepotism by STK and Allen/SOS. Played the Blues, Pies and Dogs. I hope Jack is ready for the pressure - especially if the Saints can't hold onto guys like Windhager and Wilkie.

On the flip side, i dont think the Saints plan on keeping Marshall or Wilkie, Windhager is different though, i see the Saints going after these free agents and younger players, whilst pushing the older ones out the door for picks.

 

[morningbrown]

Such well thought out posts!

Haven't given his posts a minute of attention since he updated his profile picture...

 

[ThePine]

Can someone DM me on why there's such a rift between SOS and the club? Doesn't seem to be any concrete reasons in the public domain.

 

[Matty411]

On the flip side, i dont think the Saints plan on keeping Marshall or Wilkie, Windhager is different though, i see the Saints going after these free agents and younger players, whilst pushing the older ones out the door for picks.

Except Marshall is way better than TDK (at least for now) and in his prime. Wilkie so important to them, too. JSOS is not a primary key tall - closer to a third tall, really. So if STK roll into 2026 with JSOS as the main guy... things could fall apart quickly.

Windhager is just coming into his own and young, so could make them pay if he chooses to leave.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Can someone DM me on why there's such a rift between SOS and the club? Doesn't seem to be any concrete reasons in the public domain.

• Rift between he and the club dates back to the salary cap scandal.
• His time back at the Blues as List Manager ended with a rift between him and the CEO at the time because of criticism of his performance as well as conflict of issue concerns regarding Ben Silvagni (and Ben Silvagni's mate Finbar O'Dwyer).

He's a very proud man who holds grudges and the two points above combined have caused this animosity.

 

[Matty411]

Just on Charlie. Please correct me if this is something most AFL players do or Charlie's done for years, but is the lack of pride / ownership of his role as a leader and star player of Carlton FC on his socials (insta his primary) worrying? Or a sign of the times with players and their 'brands'?

 

[NYCFC]

Can someone DM me on why there's such a rift between SOS and the club? Doesn't seem to be any concrete reasons in the public domain.

I don’t think there’s any more in it than the club sacked him and he’s an insanely vindictive bastard who really knows how to hold a grudge. Pretty sad really.

 

[AB_Blue]

Just on Charlie. Please correct me if this is something most AFL players do or Charlie's done for years, but is the lack of pride / ownership of his role as a leader and star player of Carlton FC on his socials (insta his primary) worrying? Or a sign of the times with players and their 'brands'?

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It’s just how he is….JSOS still liking social media posts from the club….

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Voss said straight up in his interview that Charlie raised the prospect of a trade. Not his manager, the coach said Charlie asked the question.

Because he has to. If he's open to it and his manager will be operating the way he is he has to otherwise the bridge is 100% burnt. So of course Charlie raised it. If he doesn't and his manager does this. Bridge burnt. Gone. Big problems for every party involved.

 

[BlueAbroad]

Just on Charlie. Please correct me if this is something most AFL players do or Charlie's done for years, but is the lack of pride / ownership of his role as a leader and star player of Carlton FC on his socials (insta his primary) worrying? Or a sign of the times with players and their 'brands'?

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Players that don't have Carlton in their IG bio include Cripps, Walsh, McKay, Weitering, Cerra, Jagga & Kemp. Most of this group have over 20K followers.

Interesting to see that players like Williams, Durdin, Motlop, McGovern, Hollands (Ollie), Acres all do have the club tagged in their bio.

I don't think it's worth reading too far into but some of us probably will anyway.

Also getting in early before the "Walsh unfollowed the club" rumours begin.

 

[carlton_99]

Also getting in early before the "Walsh unfollowed the club" rumours begin.

You made me check