Discussion So I crunched the numbers …. again

[Kilroy]

A -61% drop in posting from the OOB is a big win for the league.

#neverstopbeingacampaigner

 

[ClarkeM]

Not if it’s just to whinge.

We need ideas. Novel events or adventures that that enhance the Qooty-sphere.

Did much come from the State of Origin or the Cricket in terms of recruitment?



Well that sort of fatalism doesn’t help for starters.



In the meantime yes, but what else could we work towards that might happen by the end of season?

Maybe the damage is too far done? Not to be too dramatic here but I mean, three seasons ago it was all guns a-blazing towards Season 40 and now we're here and the ghost-town vibes are palpable.

One things for sure, I think Media Mondays doesn't work as a concept but can appreciate it was tried. I think playing games at night rather than day would bring about more excitement and heck, I could even go as far as saying that maybe Sundays are the best days to Start a match thread so by virtue, games on Friday night might actually be kind of fun for a change - give everyone their Saturday to do as they please and then Sunday when the website is seemingly more active, we start the week off well.

All ideas, none of them are perfect nor will solve the issue but got to try something, that's for sure...

 

[Kilroy]

Maybe the damage is too far done? Not to be too dramatic here but I mean, three seasons ago it was all guns a-blazing towards Season 40 and now we're here and the ghost-town vibes are palpable.

Post-Apocalyptic narratives sort of work for us in Baghdad.

In fact small doses of impending doom can be intoxicating.

One things for sure, I think Media Mondays doesn't work as a concept but can appreciate it was tried.

I think having themes on certain days works well … gives a little certainty to an otherwise awkward silence.

We can all benefit from the odd ice-breaker here and there.

I think playing games at night rather than day would bring about more excitement

That’s an intriguing idea …

Not just Qooty matches but Trivia?, 20 Questions? or whatever …

Short bursts of clever topical discussions works well for some.

… so by virtue, games on Friday night might actually be kind of fun for a change …

… but I doubt Friday is that night (and yes, I might be biased on this).

… heck, I could even go as far as saying that maybe Sundays are the best days to Start a match thread …

… Sunday when the website is seemingly more active, we start the week off well.

… after the games are played? Wouldn’t be the first time.

- give everyone their Saturday to do as they please …

All ideas, none of them are perfect nor will solve the issue but got to try something, that's for sure...

Absolutely!

 

[Braklet]

This is all much ado about the fact that where DemurePrincess goes, so do the posts.

OOBs down, Bombres up, gee I wonder why?

 

[Kilroy]

This is all much ado about the fact that where DemurePrincess goes, so do the posts.

OOBs down, Bombres up, gee I wonder why?

She’s an absolute star mate!

Feisty, passionate, engaging and entertaining …

and it’s not just about posting

 

[Pamcake1]

I am so not suprised the posting numbers are a third less and that the SFA is losing steam. It's a vibe around here.

1/ The Rookie intake is dismal.
The ones that have come onboard haven't been encouraged much if at all to develop their 'posting style' as it seems they are crushed quickly if they dare to step out of the 'usual' style. Some clubs just want 'bums on seats' and have no care or bother to encourage, once they get their team numbers up.
There is no welcome mat, recognition of training wheels or comfort package particularly if it's not 'your teams' Rookie.
A potential Rookie just has to have a gander at a few of the recent threads to realise the toxicity that is spewing out of the faucet and back away quickly.

2/ The competition of egos and contaiment of policing the perimeters.
So many fragile bullies here threatened by the or any whiff of otherness.
Taking a death grip on 'this is how it's done' with no tolerance for diversity or making room for something/someone different that falls outside of their narrow mind set.
The big sharks keep swimming in diminishing circles and wonder why no one wants to come anywhere near communicating with them without amour & defensiveness.

3/Circling the drain via 'it used to be better' nostalgia tripping.
While that may be true or not one thing for sure is the ongoing complaining about the spilt milk of 'less new blood' rather than appreciating what is still there and being grateful and graceful in embracing a 'tomorrow'. whatever that 'tomorrow' should look like.
It's never going to be the yesterday so get on with it and stop that self indulgent lamentation.

4/The snide well of 'if I can't win then you can't either' mindset, which follows on to, 'so I'm going to make things as shitty as I can' just so you will not enjoy anything.

5/ It's the Sim, It's the fixture, It's the timing, it's the whatever can be blamed as long as I can try and complain about it and attempt to renovate it problem.
The problem is not in the game mechanics of the game. The problem is the 'people' game.

I could go on with listing further negatives but I'm mindful of how bored I want to get today. Cheerio.

 

[ClarkeM]

Post-Apocalyptic narratives sort of work for us in Baghdad.

In fact small doses of impending doom can be intoxicating.



I think having themes on certain days works well … gives a little certainty to an otherwise awkward silence.

We can all benefit from the odd ice-breaker here and there.



That’s an intriguing idea …

Not just Qooty matches but Trivia?, 20 Questions? or whatever …

Short bursts of clever topical discussions works well for some.



… but I doubt Friday is that night (and yes, I might be biased on this).




… after the games are played? Wouldn’t be the first time.




Absolutely!

Games are posted around 3pm usually, and safe to say activity is usually high on the website after this time.

Shouldn’t we be encouraging people to engage in a match thread at the start of the match thread, not after the game has already been posted?

Maybe play matches Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning the match threads are up. People aren’t at work, people are in relaxation mode and trawling football content.

Tuesday morning is a horrendous day and time to capture engagement from both teams and it’s a slog for most.

Just ideas of course.

 

[thewizardmelon]

Games are posted around 3pm usually, and safe to say activity is usually high on the website after this time.

Shouldn’t we be encouraging people to engage in a match thread at the start of the match thread, not after the game has already been posted?

Maybe play matches Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning the match threads are up. People aren’t at work, people are in relaxation mode and trawling football content.

Tuesday morning is a horrendous day and time to capture engagement from both teams and it’s a slog for most.

Just ideas of course.

This is why I prefer Monday match threads. Plenty of people get a long weekend, a public holiday or numerous opportunities to be present on a Monday that almost never exist on a Tuesday. There’s very little to argue other than ‘the week is too long’ against a Monday match thread.

 

[ClarkeM]

This is why I prefer Monday match threads. Plenty of people get a long weekend, a public holiday or numerous opportunities to be present on a Monday that almost never exist on a Tuesday. There’s very little to argue other than ‘the week is too long’ against a Monday match thread.

The week is too long if you feel like you have to post every day. But if you have some sense of control, it's really not that hard. The start of a match thread is infinitely better than the end of it when everyone's had their fun already. Starting it on a Tuesday makes no sense.

 

[thewizardmelon]

The week is too long if you feel like you have to post every day. But if you have some sense of control, it's really not that hard. The start of a match thread is infinitely better than the end of it when everyone's had their fun already. Starting it on a Tuesday makes no sense.

First sentence sums it up. You don’t have to post everyday, nor is it recommended. I like being able to post the first few days then trickle back in as the thread requires

 

[Tigerturbulance]

I tend to see the health of the SFA more about how many on each team list is active or just participates, not just quantity of posts. Just because a teams overall number has declined doesn't mean the engagement or quality has as well, in fact a decrease in spamming and hence post numbers could be a benefit for other teams to enjoy when posting with some teams.

The graph below is numbers of active players after 3 weeks (the time teams should be at their most active) the teams that have the least people posting at all are the swamprats 25 players with 13 not posted and the Furies with 28 players with 16 not posted at all.


Overall teams that have 50% or more of their list not posting results in slower match thread participants with less engagement and I would guess a lower moral and fun factor in the team itself.

 

[Tonga Bob]

Someone's actually using the posting stats thread for analysis? Oh my stars!

 

[ClarkeM]

I tend to see the health of the SFA more about how many on each team list is active or just participates, not just quantity of posts. Just because a teams overall number has declined doesn't mean the engagement or quality has as well, in fact a decrease in spamming and hence post numbers could be a benefit for other teams to enjoy when posting with some teams.

The graph below is numbers of active players after 3 weeks (the time teams should be at their most active) the teams that have the least people posting at all are the swamprats 25 players with 13 not posted and the Furies with 28 players with 16 not posted at all.
View attachment 2429128

Overall teams that have 50% or more of their list not posting results in slower match thread participants with less engagement and I would guess a lower moral and fun factor in the team itself.

Nice work here AnUltimateRessie

 

[Tigerturbulance]

Nice work here AnUltimateRessie

 

[Tonga Bob]

I tend to see the health of the SFA more about how many on each team list is active or just participates, not just quantity of posts. Just because a teams overall number has declined doesn't mean the engagement or quality has as well, in fact a decrease in spamming and hence post numbers could be a benefit for other teams to enjoy when posting with some teams.

The graph below is numbers of active players after 3 weeks (the time teams should be at their most active) the teams that have the least people posting at all are the swamprats 25 players with 13 not posted and the Furies with 28 players with 16 not posted at all.
View attachment 2429128

Overall teams that have 50% or more of their list not posting results in slower match thread participants with less engagement and I would guess a lower moral and fun factor in the team itself.

More analysis, maybe from one of your alts but I'm getting a semi rn! I'll give you a pass even though the numbers for us are off by one.

And what's pleasing from my team's perspective is that we had an additional 4 people post for the first time this season between rounds 4-6, so would love to see a current view of this.

 

[Tigerturbulance]

More analysis, maybe from one of your alts but I'm getting a semi rn! I'll give you a pass even though the numbers for us are off by one.

And what's pleasing from my team's perspective is that we had an additional 4 people post for the first time this season between rounds 4-6, so would love to see a current view of this.

I will get my stat Alt to run the numbers round 8, the halfway point. This should be a good indicator of each teams list engagement.

 

[Jabba73]

I am so not suprised the posting numbers are a third less and that the SFA is losing steam. It's a vibe around here.

1/ The Rookie intake is dismal.
The ones that have come onboard haven't been encouraged much if at all to develop their 'posting style' as it seems they are crushed quickly if they dare to step out of the 'usual' style. Some clubs just want 'bums on seats' and have no care or bother to encourage, once they get their team numbers up.
There is no welcome mat, recognition of training wheels or comfort package particularly if it's not 'your teams' Rookie.
A potential Rookie just has to have a gander at a few of the recent threads to realise the toxicity that is spewing out of the faucet and back away quickly.

2/ The competition of egos and contaiment of policing the perimeters.
So many fragile bullies here threatened by the or any whiff of otherness.
Taking a death grip on 'this is how it's done' with no tolerance for diversity or making room for something/someone different that falls outside of their narrow mind set.
The big sharks keep swimming in diminishing circles and wonder why no one wants to come anywhere near communicating with them without amour & defensiveness.

3/Circling the drain via 'it used to be better' nostalgia tripping.
While that may be true or not one thing for sure is the ongoing complaining about the spilt milk of 'less new blood' rather than appreciating what is still there and being grateful and graceful in embracing a 'tomorrow'. whatever that 'tomorrow' should look like.
It's never going to be the yesterday so get on with it and stop that self indulgent lamentation.

4/The snide well of 'if I can't win then you can't either' mindset, which follows on to, 'so I'm going to make things as shitty as I can' just so you will not enjoy anything.

5/ It's the Sim, It's the fixture, It's the timing, it's the whatever can be blamed as long as I can try and complain about it and attempt to renovate it problem.
The problem is not in the game mechanics of the game. The problem is the 'people' game.

I could go on with listing further negatives but I'm mindful of how bored I want to get today. Cheerio.

Looks very similar to my previous Admin applications ...

The pendulum has swung from an almost "free-for-all" to a tightly controlled and stifled setting. A few have adapted accordingly, many haven't.

The self-appointed guardians of the SFA have got what they wanted, unfortunately they are also often the most vocal when lamenting that it "ain't what it used to be" or "all the good posters have gone".

Criticism of new ideas and trying something different is the biggest drain on this place and will cause its eventual downfall.

The empire is showing signs of decay, as discussed in my recent match thread OPs. A cautionary tale that may have been dismissed instead of heeded.

The cause is not lost, as long as there is the will to fix the already identified issues.

 

[Kilroy]

Someone's actually using the posting stats thread for analysis? Oh my stars!

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I am so not suprised the posting numbers are a third less and that the SFA is losing steam. It's a vibe around here.

1/ The Rookie intake is dismal.
The ones that have come onboard haven't been encouraged much if at all to develop their 'posting style' as it seems they are crushed quickly if they dare to step out of the 'usual' style.

Some clubs just want 'bums on seats' and have no care or bother to encourage, once they get their team numbers up.
There is no welcome mat, recognition of training wheels or comfort package particularly if it's not 'your teams' Rookie.
A potential Rookie just has to have a gander at a few of the recent threads to realise the toxicity that is spewing out of the faucet and back away quickly.

2/ The competition of egos and contaiment of policing the perimeters.
So many fragile bullies here threatened by the or any whiff of otherness.
Taking a death grip on 'this is how it's done' with no tolerance for diversity or making room for something/someone different that falls outside of their narrow mind set.
The big sharks keep swimming in diminishing circles and wonder why no one wants to come anywhere near communicating with them without amour & defensiveness.

3/Circling the drain via 'it used to be better' nostalgia tripping.
While that may be true or not one thing for sure is the ongoing complaining about the spilt milk of 'less new blood' rather than appreciating what is still there and being grateful and graceful in embracing a 'tomorrow'. whatever that 'tomorrow' should look like.

It's never going to be the yesterday so get on with it and stop that self indulgent lamentation.

4/The snide well of 'if I can't win then you can't either' mindset, which follows on to, 'so I'm going to make things as shitty as I can' just so you will not enjoy anything.

5/ It's the Sim, It's the fixture, It's the timing, it's the whatever can be blamed as long as I can try and complain about it and attempt to renovate it problem.
The problem is not in the game mechanics of the game. The problem is the 'people' game.

I could go on with listing further negatives but I'm mindful of how bored I want to get today. Cheerio.

 

[AnUltimateRessie]

Nice work here AnUltimateRessie

thanks i love numbers

 

[Kilroy]

I tend to see the health of the SFA more about how many on each team list is active or just participates, not just quantity of posts. Just because a teams overall number has declined doesn't mean the engagement or quality has as well, in fact a decrease in spamming and hence post numbers could be a benefit for other teams to enjoy when posting with some teams.

The graph below is numbers of active players after 3 weeks (the time teams should be at their most active) the teams that have the least people posting at all are the swamprats 25 players with 13 not posted and the Furies with 28 players with 16 not posted at all.
View attachment 2429128

Overall teams that have 50% or more of their list not posting results in slower match thread participants with less engagement and I would guess a lower moral and fun factor in the team itself.

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

It’s down by a third already.

May be time for an “intervention”?

I agree.

It's time for clubs to start posting their kits in their team threads again so The Half Back doesn't have to guess what their back designs might look like.

 

[Kilroy]

I agree.

It's time for clubs to start posting their kits in their team threads again so The Half Back doesn't have to guess what their back designs might look like.

Did you have to invite him in here?

I still haven’t forgiven him for calling WaynesWorld19 ‘s bluff. (Even though Wayno secretly wanted him to)

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

WaynesWorld19 is alive??????

 

[WaynesWorld19]

WaynesWorld19 is alive??????

Yes ....my family have looked after me

 

[Kilroy]

It's time for clubs to start posting their kits in their team threads again so The Half Back doesn't have to guess what their back designs might look like.

Would it help if clubs showed half-front and half-back?

There is no welcome mat, recognition of training wheels or comfort package particularly if it's not 'your teams' Rookie.

Just curious, but what’s a “comfort package” and how much are they going for on the West Coast?

The self-appointed guardians of the SFA have got what they wanted …

How does that work exactly?

Could I just appoint myself and away we go?

… a decrease in spamming and hence post numbers could be a benefit for other teams to enjoy when posting with some teams.

“Spamming” is bad but quality “shitposting” is the aim, right?