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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

List Changes - 2025
  • Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
  • Jayden Hunt announces retirement
  • Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
  • Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
  • Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
  • List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

Key Offseason Dates
Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft
 
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He did pretty well in the Barrass negotiations? We got a pretty decent haul all things considered.
Whether we chose the right pick to keep is obviously a downer but purely a hindsight call. However forcing Hawthorn to give a 1st, 2nd and 3rd after they tried to **** us over wasn't bad work at all.
We should almost never accept future picks for a contracted player .

waiting a year with a hole on your list whilst waiting for compo that you don't actually know what you will end up with is amateur hour .
 
Coke Zero & Diet Coke just tastes like watered down Coke. PepsiCo has nailed sugar free drinks a lot better than Coca-Cola.
Diet Coke in post mix form was my favourite drink.

Sadly they’ve nerfed it everywhere for the bastardised coke no sugar / zero.

Just like you don’t get big gorilla forwards anymore :( a relic from the past taken too soon
 
We should almost never accept future picks for a contracted player .

waiting a year with a hole on your list whilst waiting for compo that you don't actually know what you will end up with is amateur hour .

Other than holding onto Barrass, we didn't really have any other options?
Waiting another year to trade Barrass would've diminished his value.
 
We should almost never accept future picks for a contracted player .

waiting a year with a hole on your list whilst waiting for compo that you don't actually know what you will end up with is amateur hour .
The exception being if the draft really is crap in the current year. If you look through the history of the draft when it is a bad year it can be really bad. Like only a couple of players after picks 15 - 20 amount to anything.
 

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Why not bobby hill from the pies ??

We have the cash he is a wa lad no way the pies can match our cash offer with there list

We are losing Ryan replacement bobby

Why not ?
Will probably have to wait until Collingwood are out of contention before they start talking about trading contracting players out TBH.
 
We should almost never accept future picks for a contracted player .

waiting a year with a hole on your list whilst waiting for compo that you don't actually know what you will end up with is amateur hour .
The exception being if the draft really is crap in the current year. If you look through the history of the draft when it is a bad year it can be really bad. Like only a couple of players after picks 15 - 20 amount to anything.

Good point.

Or if you’ve already got a plethora of picks in the current draft and want to start stocking up for the next draft.

Or if you’ve got an academy/FS prospect you want to stock points for.

The suggestion that a club should almost never trade a player for future picks is extremely short sighted.
 
We should almost never accept future picks for a contracted player .

waiting a year with a hole on your list whilst waiting for compo that you don't actually know what you will end up with is amateur hour .
We took 5 players in the draft last year. If we took picks for Barrass in last years draft we would have taken 8? That's insane, was never going to happen. That's not counting the three we traded/signed in as well.

We have good flexible options this year thanks to Barrass, either trading up, moving into next year, or nabbing a slider.

Lots of options.
 
I have no problem with getting Dev on the list, he does improve us and as someone else said list improvement is incremental.
Simply put Dev on and Rawlinson off, makes us a stronger list.

What my worry is what Clarke Kent, gives up to get him.
I can’t help but feel very nervous with us having a very good draft hand and us botching it up.

We drafted well last year but our work at the trading table was appalling.

A very inauspicious start to his tenure at West Coast has left me apprehensive and concerned that Clarke Kent might just spud this trade week up.

We are precariously poised at the bottom of the ladder and if we botch this trade and draft period up, then we are in for “Northesq”, sustained period of incompetence.

Massey I have faith in but I worry that Clarke wont ensure that Massey has the best picks at his disposal.

I hope like hell that my worries are missed placed as the T&D period is a real opportunity for us to improve.

I’m prepared to give Clarke a mulligan for last year for a couple of reasons.

We were over eager to get Baker across because I think McQualter wanted him at the club to help implement the game plan and add some much needed leadership to a young group. Baker joining also provided us with a buy one, get one free arrangement because Graham came as a bonus

With Barrass wanting out it also became clear that whilst the two trades weren’t directly linked, a large chunk of what we received for Barrass (basically pick 14) would go to Richmond for Baker. That link was made well before Clarke put his foot in his mouth in the initial interview at the start of trade week

It seemed a decent enough plan - get 14 and change for Barrass then pass on 14 for Baker and keep the change. The ducks were nicely in a row until Hawthorn kicked them into oblivion by trading pick 14 to Carlton which was a complete blindside.

Making it worse was the fact Hawthorn had no other trades going on so they were then happy to stall us on the Barrass trade in the hope we’d cave for a lesser offer. They only upped it in the last hour after we’d held firm and it looked like it would fall over

Left us scrambling to find a trade for Baker without anything from Hawthorn in our pocket leading to the infamous pick 3 trade

This year we don’t look likely to have anyone on the hook that would command a high draft pick and Chesser and Ryan aren’t going to fetch anything higher than a R2 pick. We also won’t be in any rush to get those trades done as they aren’t necessary to get other trades done

So the urgency/desperation that clouded last year’s trade period doesn’t exist

As for pick swaps, I’d expect Clarke to be guided by Massey and how he sees our draft board before repositioning what we currently hold

The main danger I see would be overpaying someone to join us because we’ve struggled to get a yes from anyone and desperation sets in
 

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I’m prepared to give Clarke a mulligan for last year for a couple of reasons.

We were over eager to get Baker across because I think McQualter wanted him at the club to help implement the game plan and add some much needed leadership to a young group. Baker joining also provided us with a buy one, get one free arrangement because Graham came as a bonus

With Barrass wanting out it also became clear that whilst the two trades weren’t directly linked, a large chunk of what we received for Barrass (basically pick 14) would go to Richmond for Baker. That link was made well before Clarke put his foot in his mouth in the initial interview at the start of trade week

It seemed a decent enough plan - get 14 and change for Barrass then pass on 14 for Baker and keep the change. The ducks were nicely in a row until Hawthorn kicked them into oblivion by trading pick 14 to Carlton which was a complete blindside.

Making it worse was the fact Hawthorn had no other trades going on so they were then happy to stall us on the Barrass trade in the hope we’d cave for a lesser offer. They only upped it in the last hour after we’d held firm and it looked like it would fall over

Left us scrambling to find a trade for Baker without anything from Hawthorn in our pocket leading to the infamous pick 3 trade

This year we don’t look likely to have anyone on the hook that would command a high draft pick and Chesser and Ryan aren’t going to fetch anything higher than a R2 pick. We also won’t be in any rush to get those trades done as they aren’t necessary to get other trades done

So the urgency/desperation that clouded last year’s trade period doesn’t exist

As for pick swaps, I’d expect Clarke to be guided by Massey and how he sees our draft board before repositioning what we currently hold

The main danger I see would be overpaying someone to join us because we’ve struggled to get a yes from anyone and desperation sets in
agree
 
He did pretty well in the Barrass negotiations? We got a pretty decent haul all things considered.
Whether we chose the right pick to keep is obviously a downer but purely a hindsight call. However forcing Hawthorn to give a 1st, 2nd and 3rd after they tried to **** us over wasn't bad work at all.
I think many forget that the likely alternative was:

Barrass for 14
14 for baker
#3 for 12 and Carlton’s F1

So yeah, we chose the wrong F1, but also gained a F2 and F3 for F4 swap in addition.

14 for baker will be argued for decades, but it was already done so the #3 and Barrass deals actually got negotiated OK (noting the picks were our choice, so got the choice wrong but the price didn’t really change)
 
I think many forget that the likely alternative was:

Barrass for 14
14 for baker
#3 for 12 and Carlton’s F1

So yeah, we chose the wrong F1, but also gained a F2 and F3 for F4 swap in addition.

14 for baker will be argued for decades, but it was already done so the #3 and Barrass deals actually got negotiated OK (noting the picks were our choice, so got the choice wrong but the price didn’t really change)
we did that badly!
 

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We Have to get go after him
The 2018 rising star winner retired in October last year at the age of 25 – and with a season left on his Kangaroos contract – after losing his passion for the game, at least in part from North Melbourne’s bulk defeats in his four years at the club.

May not be a great fit.
 
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