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Harley Reid extends to 2028

List Changes - 2025
  • Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
  • Jayden Hunt announces retirement
  • Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
  • Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
  • Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
  • List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

Key Offseason Dates
Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft
 
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Pardon me WCoasters,
Just wondering if you might be able to shed some light on Koby Evans' talents and issues?
Do you think WC will draft him?

He’ll be an Eagle, probably Cat B prelisted as a concession from the AFL. Few injuries this year and very raw but has pace and talent to burn.
 
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Downloaded this off some Reddit post, not mine but was where I first saw the 900k thing.

Doesn't necessarily bother me in the sense that we're needing to fill our salary cap etc etc, that all checks out.

More annoys the bedwetting side of me that reads this as we haven't been doing well luring anyone else. Would like us to use ridiculous money to get someone over the line that may not necessarily be from WA or be considering us otherwise, like Davies or a developing ruck etc.

I'd also really hope the later years of his contract weren't anywhere near 900k, 3/4 years from now is hopefully when we'll be across how our list can win a premiership and start doing a Hawthorn - targeting players to fill specific needs. We'll need a war chest for that. I like Starcevich but if he gets in the way of anyone actually really good it'll piss me off.
 
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Downloaded this off some Reddit post, not mine but was where I first saw the 900k thing.

Doesn't necessarily bother me in the sense that we're needing to fill our salary cap etc etc, that all checks out.

More annoys the bedwetting side of me that reads this as we haven't been doing well luring anyone else. Would like us to use ridiculous money to get someone over the line that may not necessarily be from WA or be considering us otherwise, like Davies or a developing ruck etc.

I'd also really hope the later years of his contract weren't anywhere near 900k, 3/4 years from now is hopefully when we'll be across how our list can win a premiership and start doing a Hawthorn - targeting players to fill specific needs. We'll need a war chest for that. I like Starcevich but if he gets in the way of anyone actually really good it'll piss me off.
As well as being rather shit at the moment, we're also at an inherent disadvantage being over in WA, so we don't have the pick of the litter when it comes to new recruits.
 

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As well as being rather shit at the moment, we're also at an inherent disadvantage being over in WA, so we don't have the pick of the litter when it comes to new recruits.

Oh am well aware and that's exactly what I mean - use the money to tip the scales.

Say we're into Alex Davies (as an example of general vibe).

We've got the freedom with salary atm to throw a player who'd probably be getting 300k at his current club 900k. If he's weighing up 400-500 from a club in Victoria vs a ridiculous offer from us, that might very well offset the WA/shit thing. Especially that, given we're shit, we can pitch a starting role in the 22 to these types.

Dangle big offers for the moneyball/developing targets, take our pick of the ones who seem keen and front load the shit out of their contracts. Retention has never been an issue for us so would back us in once we got them over here. Teams rise and fall all the time, and the WA thing I feel would be offset by financial security for a lot of young guys not in the current top echelon.

That just feels like the best way to make use of one of the few advantages we have (lots of salary room). Giving overs to a player like Starcevich who was already from WA, already seemingly wanting to come to us and not really being fought over by rivals just seems like an us move.

Obviously totally fine if it's a much for muchness, would just be annoyed if it's at the expense of players who'd potentially be swayed.
 
Pardon me WCoasters,
Just wondering if you might be able to shed some light on Koby Evans' talents and issues?
Do you think WC will draft him?
Yes, we will definitely be drafting him, he’s comfortably the best of our NGA / FS prospects this year.

Typically been a HF, but looked very good in his limited sample size as a midfielder this year, has a wicked side step and great all round agility, is very quick too.

Big bodied physical modern MID / HF, just needs to stay fit and build his endurance.
 
If we are offering him that then he would want to be playing ball with us in terms of being willing to go along with PSD threats against Brisbane to give us leverage to get him for not very much.
 
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For anyone who wanted the video of it.

Starcevichs desire to want to play up the ground mentioned as well.

I can’t really remember a lot of the players we got last year contracts being leaked. So not sure it’s a sign we are likely to get him, normally works the other way unless it’s too good to say no to, which this might be?

We have an estimated $5m+ in cap space next year. So the contract will be heavily front ended and helps with the concussion payout as well.
Something like-
1st year-$1.5m ($150 if he has to retire but sort of irrelevant as cap floor)
Year 2- $1.1m (75% $275k against the cap if retired)
Year 3- $500k (50% $250k)
Year 5- $500k. (No doubt contract will be redone if playing good footy and nil concussion issues)

Sums will be sorted out but something along those lines. Really not much risk with our current cap and list issues.

Mentions we are happy to trade for him as well, If this offer is new it probably also indicates that we have been given a bit of a heads up what our assistance will be and end of first to trade is probably one of them and we don’t have much on the hook.

Majority of the cap is off the books before the Warner free agency.
 
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Hasn’t the Starcevich concussion issues thing been debunked? Sign him on we need more players who don’t suck
Rhino has been going with it, no doubt with word from his manager that he’s only had 1 serious concussion and the Lions are prepared to put up to 5 years to him with all the medical records they have, it shows you they ain’t that concerned.
 
Sad thing is the club won’t have the courage to do anything but give up pick 19 for Starcevich and then not bid on Annable.

We are too weak to do the obvious
Could you please detail the club staff, rated most courageous to least courageous, if you’ve got the time, that would be great.
We could name it the goeaglesgosgio wizard of Oz - lack of courage award.

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Ive been pretty much of the assumption that whatever compo pick the AFL gives us will almost certainly be used for the Starcevich trade (with maybe Dev thown in)

Seems pretty straightforward imo
 

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Good grief I don't like this idea at all. Seems to get worse and worse. Seems peak West Coast. A risk with minimal reward we don't need to take 😬


- I don't like the player we're targetting is Starcevich, who is pretty average IMO. A solid role player in a top team, that's it.

- I don't like this stupid idea of giving him midfield minutes when nothing suggests he's remotely capable, save a handful of U18 games years and years ago.

- I don't like the player we're targetting has concussion issues. Whether "one more to retire" is debunked or not he's had concussions, that's not up for debate. This is immediately after McGovern too.

- I don't like the money on offer, or the length of the deal.

Hasn't happened yet but I expect I won't like what the club pays for him in a trade either.

McCarthy cost absolutely nothing and looks 100% more capable in the midfield than Starcevich ever has. Why can't we just carry on down that path.

Or send Hough back into defense. Or bring up Greggo, or target a mature state player.... So many alternative options that won't cost as much as this. Wish we could put a line through the entire idea tbh.
 
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Good grief I don't like this idea at all. Seems to get worse and worse. Seems peak West Coast. A risk with minimal reward we don't need to take 😬


- I don't like the player we're targetting is Starcevich, who is pretty average IMO. A solid role player in a top team, that's it.

- I don't like this stupid idea of giving him midfield minutes when nothing suggests he's remotely capable, save a handful of U18 games years and years ago.

- I don't like the player we're targetting has concussion issues. Whether "one more to retire" is debunked or not he's had concussions, that's not up for debate. This is immediately after McGovern too.

- I don't like the money on offer, or the length of the deal.

Hasn't happened yet but I expect I won't like what the club pays for him in a trade either.

McCarthy cost absolutely nothing and looks 100% more capable in the midfield than Starcevich ever has. Why can't we just carry on down that path.

Or send Hough back into defense. Or bring up Greggo, or target a mature state player.... So many alternative options that won't cost as much as this. Wish we could put a line through the entire idea tbh.
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Good grief I don't like this idea at all. Seems to get worse and worse. Seems peak West Coast. A risk with minimal reward we don't need to take 😬


- I don't like the player we're targetting is Starcevich, who is pretty average IMO. A solid role player in a top team, that's it.

- I don't like this stupid idea of giving him midfield minutes when nothing suggests he's remotely capable, save a handful of U18 games years and years ago.

- I don't like the player we're targetting has concussion issues. Whether "one more to retire" is debunked or not he's had concussions, that's not up for debate. This is immediately after McGovern too.

- I don't like the money on offer, or the length of the deal.

Hasn't happened yet but I expect I won't like what the club pays for him in a trade either.

McCarthy cost absolutely nothing and looks 100% more capable in the midfield than Starcevich ever has. Why can't we just carry on down that path.

Or send Hough back into defense. Or bring up Greggo, or target a mature state player.... So many alternative options that won't cost as much as this. Wish we could put a line through the entire idea tbh.
**** I'm troubled by how much I've found myself agreeing with you lately.
 
Good grief I don't like this idea at all. Seems to get worse and worse. Seems peak West Coast. A risk with minimal reward we don't need to take 😬


- I don't like the player we're targetting is Starcevich, who is pretty average IMO. A solid role player in a top team, that's it.

- I don't like this stupid idea of giving him midfield minutes when nothing suggests he's remotely capable, save a handful of U18 games years and years ago.

- I don't like the player we're targetting has concussion issues. Whether "one more to retire" is debunked or not he's had concussions, that's not up for debate. This is immediately after McGovern too.

- I don't like the money on offer, or the length of the deal.

Hasn't happened yet but I expect I won't like what the club pays for him in a trade either.

McCarthy cost absolutely nothing and looks 100% more capable in the midfield than Starcevich ever has. Why can't we just carry on down that path.

Or send Hough back into defense. Or bring up Greggo, or target a mature state player.... So many alternative options that won't cost as much as this. Wish we could put a line through the entire idea tbh.
We won one game last year, 70% of the list are being paid more than they are worth.
It's not your money don't worry about it.
 
Good grief I don't like this idea at all. Seems to get worse and worse. Seems peak West Coast. A risk with minimal reward we don't need to take 😬


- I don't like the player we're targetting is Starcevich, who is pretty average IMO. A solid role player in a top team, that's it.

- I don't like this stupid idea of giving him midfield minutes when nothing suggests he's remotely capable, save a handful of U18 games years and years ago.

- I don't like the player we're targetting has concussion issues. Whether "one more to retire" is debunked or not he's had concussions, that's not up for debate. This is immediately after McGovern too.

- I don't like the money on offer, or the length of the deal.

Hasn't happened yet but I expect I won't like what the club pays for him in a trade either.

McCarthy cost absolutely nothing and looks 100% more capable in the midfield than Starcevich ever has. Why can't we just carry on down that path.

Or send Hough back into defense. Or bring up Greggo, or target a mature state player.... So many alternative options that won't cost as much as this. Wish we could put a line through the entire idea tbh.
He is a quality we need to shore up our defence. Money isn't an issue. If we have to trade something so to not dilute pick 2 OA compo so be it. The AFL giving us four extra rookies spots and being able to prelist players ensures Evans walley etc don't cost us any draft capital, freeing up those picks to use for exactly this type of thing
 
It is my money.

I'm paying Starcevich myself out of my own taxes, just like Albo's net zero 2035 commitment.


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Nup, happy to be Eeyored on this one and wear the wet panties tag :raisinghand: Screams of desperation and/or stupidity to me.

No middle tier player deserves to be paid that much, and a contract all the way up until he's 31? For his ouput? Absurd.
 
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