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List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

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The more I see him the more I want us to draft Ollie Grieves . Prolific ball winning inside / transition mid , elite at releasing other players, goes forward and kicks goals.
I still prefer Sharp as an inside mid option but would absolutely draft Greeves if we split 2 and Sharp is gone.

Suspect he ends up at someone like the Bombers though.
 
The more I see him the more I want us to draft Ollie Grieves . Prolific ball winning inside / transition mid , elite at releasing other players, goes forward and kicks goals.
Absolute FIGJAM. Not a great defensive side to his game, absolutely full of himself, demands the ball for stat padding with little hurt factor and his pigeon toed running style likely to limit him at the next level.

He has Essendon written all over him
 
Absolute FIGJAM. Not a great defensive side to his game, absolutely full of himself, demands the ball for stat padding with little hurt factor and his pigeon toed running style likely to limit him at the next level.

He has Essendon written all over him

100% this. He's also much more physically developed than those he's playing against in talent league (like Robey is as well)

Don't want either, it's all just hopefully Victorian chatter trying to talk up their local prospects like CDT. This is probably the weakest year I can remember for the talent league in a long time.
 
Hehe hats off to Barrett for this ultimate troll here, even having Yze's laughing face attached to complete the meme 😆

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Low key a bit harsh on Matt Whitmore, imagine that bloke reading this.

Not his fault North traded pick 3 for 27 and (currently) 20 this year.
Obviously no one would want to see their clubs making trades like this, and Barrett is rightly salty about a whole range of things concerning the club he supports.

But this is also one of those ones I reckon won't feel quite so horrendous over the passage of time. Matt Whitlock looks every bit to be a 200 game player and showed a fair bit in his debut year, despite his frame being a couple of years off AFL-ready. And from the sounds of this draft that's no surer bet than anyone available at pick 3, a lot of question marks at the top end.

It sounds like a bunch of teams tried their hand at trading out of this year's draft in order to get extra picks last year (including us reportedly for Shanahan, and thank **** we didn't).
 

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Absolute FIGJAM. Not a great defensive side to his game, absolutely full of himself, demands the ball for stat padding with little hurt factor and his pigeon toed running style likely to limit him at the next level.

He has Essendon written all over him
His pigeon toed running style will guarantee foot and lumbar spine stress fractures too !!!
 
Absolute FIGJAM. Not a great defensive side to his game, absolutely full of himself, demands the ball for stat padding with little hurt factor and his pigeon toed running style likely to limit him at the next level.

He has Essendon written all over him
Reminds me of Hately from a few years back.

Was at a game earlier this year and his figjam tendencies were very strong.
 
100% this. He's also much more physically developed than those he's playing against in talent league (like Robey is as well)

Don't want either, it's all just hopefully Victorian chatter trying to talk up their local prospects like CDT. This is probably the weakest year I can remember for the talent league in a long time.
Agreed, I've got low interest in this year's draft pool as it's not great. I'm a little worried about next years, as wasn't many stand out underagers in champs. Usually 5 to 8 but only 3 I can think of.

Last years was one of best I can remember, I think there will be plenty of very good AFL footballers from last year.
 
Agreed, I've got low interest in this year's draft pool as it's not great. I'm a little worried about next years, as wasn't many stand out underagers in champs. Usually 5 to 8 but only 3 I can think of.

Last years was one of best I can remember, I think there will be plenty of very good AFL footballers from last year.
As annoyed as I am about some of our decision making, Bo Allan being a question mark due to lack of body of work, we definitely look to have nailed it to a degree we haven't for a long time.

We don't have to nail it so much this year as just not blow it. Duursma and Sharp is the safest way to do that I feel. Two different profiles of need.

Are we going to try and be the smartest man in the room again? Maybe.
 
Absolute FIGJAM. Not a great defensive side to his game, absolutely full of himself, demands the ball for stat padding with little hurt factor and his pigeon toed running style likely to limit him at the next level.

He has Essendon written all over him
defensive side can be worked on, but his pigeon toes are still very quick (without being explosive) and we could use someone that demands the ball, his handball is elite, his kick is better that Sharp and he kicks more goals. I still want sharp but I think this kid is the real deal.
 

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Robey will make a very good tagger imo. But some of his decision making in particular and skills are just deplorable.
His skills are actually good. I think his decision making/composure sometimes leads to poor disposal. That can be developed. Offers a lot more than being a tagger but yeah he’d be good at that too.
 
His skills are actually good. I think his decision making/composure sometimes leads to poor disposal. That can be developed. Offers a lot more than being a tagger but yeah he’d be good at that too.
Not sure on decision making being easy to improve. You either see the game unfold or you don’t. It is why I weight a high football iq
 
Not sure on decision making being easy to improve. You either see the game unfold or you don’t. It is why I weight a high football iq
Yeah definitely one of the most important skills to have. But it can be coached. Maybe not for huge improvement but can turn poor into average which can make a pretty big difference.
 
Not sure on decision making being easy to improve. You either see the game unfold or you don’t. It is why I weight a high football iq
I wholeheartedly agree with this logic.

We have quite a few natural athletes in the squad, but we lack enough instinctive reactional - what you'd call high IQ - footballers.

Robey is exactly the profile of player I'd avoid unless he slid outrageously low.
 
His skills are actually good. I think his decision making/composure sometimes leads to poor disposal. That can be developed. Offers a lot more than being a tagger but yeah he’d be good at that too.
I agree his skills ain’t anywhere near as bad as some say. His goal kicking is a tick

Decision making could improve but so hard to judge imo because of the small sample size and what improvement would’ve been made if he played in the top tier system for more then half a season.

Cant see him sliding past the top 4 picks of the open draft.
 

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Yeah definitely one of the most important skills to have. But it can be coached. Maybe not for huge improvement but can turn poor into average which can make a pretty big difference.
It might be improved through coaching but the ceiling on a player like that is a C grade.
 
It might be improved through coaching but the ceiling on a player like that is a C grade.
Agreed. If we apply this to Robey, I don’t think he has poor IQ- not great but not poor. Its more his composure in traffic which leaves a bit to be desired, which I think has a lot more scope for improvement
 
Every likelihood we’ll only use 3 top end draft picks depending on how many players we trade in and available list spots - picks 1,2 and maybe the Port pick around 7/8 if we can get it off Gold Coast.

Need to find the best combination from -

Duursma
Duff-Tytler
Sharp
Lindsay
Xavier Taylor
Cumming
Grlj
Schubert
Farrow
Robey

If we don’t trade either 1 or 2, then our 3rd selection will be dependent on who Richmond and Essendon pick with their selections between 2 and the port pick

Can’t afford to **** those 3 picks up
 
I wouldn't, Duursma has a lot of upside and can also play equally well across 3 lines. Can Sharp ,Cumming and Shubert do the same.
It will be interesting too see who excels in S.F. V Claremont colts G/F. A top performance from Fred could get him back in the first round.

We don't need a guy that can play on all 3 lines. We need PURE Midfields. Hence Sharp and Cummings as the best combo.

Hate all this most upside talk, if that's the case. We've already got the best player with upside under 21
 
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