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There's nothing wrong with Flanders, but he wants to move for mid time. If he comes to us, along with Humphrey who will get mid rotations, with Jagga already needing to be accommodated as a genuine mid, plus Cripps, Walsh, Cerra, Hewett and even Lord already having strong claims on midfield minutes, plus rotations from guys like Williams, Moir, Motlop, Hollands, Chesser.....how much of that midfield time is available to him? Looking a few years ahead to Cripps and Hewett moving on, we also have the Campos developing and Walker in the 2026 draft.

That's why I'd rather address the forward line gap via someone like Fritsch or Walter, and why I don't think Flanders himself would want to come to us (especially paired with Humphrey). It's just not a great fit for either party.

Now...if we want to pull something left field like trading Cerra, as an example, that might change things. But I doubt we go that far.
The fact that our midfield has Cripps Hewett Walsh Cerra Lord in it is exactly the reason we need someone like Flanders. We are very one paced have no foot speed or foot skills. Flanders has plenty of both and would be in the starting midfield more often that not if we got him
 
The fact that our midfield has Cripps Hewett Walsh Cerra Lord in it is exactly the reason we need someone like Flanders. We are very one paced have no foot speed or foot skills. Flanders has plenty of both and would be in the starting midfield more often that not if we got him
Flanders has plenty of both? He isn't quick and his skills are solid at best.
 
The fact that our midfield has Cripps Hewett Walsh Cerra Lord in it is exactly the reason we need someone like Flanders. We are very one paced have no foot speed or foot skills. Flanders has plenty of both and would be in the starting midfield more often that not if we got him
Flanders is as one paced as the lot of them
 
Having watched a LOT of Sydney games over. the past few seasons, all I can say is that even if they traded one of Gulden or Warner for Charlie they would still come out with a net improvement in their starting 22.

Put simply - and crassly - their current stock of tall forwards are simply no good. As in, barely AFL quality.
Amarty - at best, solid support.
McLean - more effective as back up ruck
McDonald - underwhelming when able to get on the park.

And more importantly, none seem to have the desire to stwp up and be the number one banana. That role is left to Heeney more often than not. If Sydney's midfield don't kick goals then it's all on their medium forwards. Too much is left to too few.

The improvement they would see by bringing in Charlie would be immediate and impactful. Even at the cost of losing Gulden or Warner, whose roles can be replaced from someone already on their list, albeit with less talent than either.

Question is whether Cox is crazy/brave enough to back in the Bloods culture to address a glaring weakness in their team at the expense of a position they have depth in. Would be a hard sell, but as Sydney know, success sells.
This is based on nothing but instinct, but I reckon they would be crazy enough to do it. The suns I feel like would be much more safe, while the swans I reckon would be the sort of team to go all in on a need when the opportunity comes up. Hopefully for our sake they do and we end up with an elite player as a result
 
Having watched a LOT of Sydney games over. the past few seasons, all I can say is that even if they traded one of Gulden or Warner for Charlie they would still come out with a net improvement in their starting 22.

Put simply - and crassly - their current stock of tall forwards are simply no good. As in, barely AFL quality.
Amarty - at best, solid support.
McLean - more effective as back up ruck
McDonald - underwhelming when able to get on the park.

And more importantly, none seem to have the desire to stwp up and be the number one banana. That role is left to Heeney more often than not. If Sydney's midfield don't kick goals then it's all on their medium forwards. Too much is left to too few.

The improvement they would see by bringing in Charlie would be immediate and impactful. Even at the cost of losing Gulden or Warner, whose roles can be replaced from someone already on their list, albeit with less talent than either.

Question is whether Cox is crazy/brave enough to back in the Bloods culture to address a glaring weakness in their team at the expense of a position they have depth in. Would be a hard sell, but as Sydney know, success sells.
A Curnow and May as their bookends trade period would change them up for a tilt.
Throw in JUH on the cheap (if he can be redeemed) and the side has a different dynamic.
 
This is based on nothing but instinct, but I reckon they would be crazy enough to do it. The suns I feel like would be much more safe, while the swans I reckon would be the sort of team to go all in on a need when the opportunity comes up. Hopefully for our sake they do and we end up with an elite player as a result
Agree but not Gulden, he IS their club
 
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Agree but not Gulden, he IS their club
Agreed, but I don’t think we would accept anything other than Gulden. Heeney wrong age and the face of the club, and Warner will be back in WA in a few years. Blakey maybe, but I don’t know whether he’s the sort of player we would want in return for Charlie, unless they give us massive overs in regards to picks. Errol’s elite foot skills mixed with his ball winning and running ability makes him just about the deadliest player in the competition
 
Agreed, but I don’t think we would accept anything other than Gulden. Heeney wrong age and the face of the club, and Warner will be back in WA in a few years. Blakey maybe, but I don’t know whether he’s the sort of player we would want in return for Charlie, unless they give us massive overs in regards to picks. Errol’s elite foot skills mixed with his ball winning and running ability makes him just about the deadliest player in the competition
Agree, that’s why I don’t think it’s the Swans. As much as they need a forward and some press
 

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The fact that our midfield has Cripps Hewett Walsh Cerra Lord in it is exactly the reason we need someone like Flanders. We are very one paced have no foot speed or foot skills. Flanders has plenty of both and would be in the starting midfield more often that not if we got him

Flanders is a younger Hewett and an older Lord - which is to say he's a good contested ball winner with neat skills, a solid defensive game, and limited (though not non-existent) hurt factor. He's absolutely a good player. But he's not quick or elite by foot. Not sure if you're mixing him up with someone else on their list?

If we're trading Charlie it needs to be to secure players who address needs, not add to an existing logjam. He's a high value, marquee asset, and as such represents a rare opportunity to address multiple gaps with high quality recruits rather than 3rd rounders, rookie picks and delisted free agents. Squandering any of what we stand to get for him on a player we already have 2-3 of would be a massive fumble.
 

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