Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXIX

[katmanblue]

Dan Houston?

Would be hilarious if he got to us as Jack left.

 

[Bennyboy7777]

Buku could become a cult figure. Not sure we've ever had a male AFL player from South Sudan.

My research tells me we had an AFLW player from there - Akec Makur Chuot in 2018.

Super athletic type and hungry for footy. Good age, too.

Look forward to seeing him and Chesser bring some speed and excitement to the group.

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Domanic Akuei was on our list until 2024 for a few years. Never played a senior game, though.

 

[Blue and Silver]

As a side note, I think that each individual move so far is not especially encouraging, but I can see the sort of vision of all of them.

Replenishing the list by targeting roles and bringing in hungry guys

 

[Benaly28]

Would be hilarious if he got to is as Jack left.

What a disaster he’s become Certainly dodged a major bullet there.

 

[JustaBattler]

This Charlie noise and carry on has got right up my nose. I know it shouldn’t. But it’s how he would have affected others that grates me.
When he signed his current long term and lucrative contract it would have meant some players took smaller contracts and others got no contracts at all and had their AFL careers ended. I feel for the people who sacrificed to keep him, worked to get his body right, lost their footy livelihoods.
He’s well within his rights to negotiate the best deal for himself but to turn around now and want out… strikes me as a level of selfishness that makes me pretty grumpy.
If his management cannot sufficiently compensate the club and yes, it should be overs because he has affected more than just himself with this decision, then GW is well within his rights to say that he’s found a club to send him to… the 2s.
I, for one, wouldn’t bat an eyelid.
Rant over.
I need a snickers

Well said - and a so good to see someone acknowledge the effect that a so called star player has on many players around the Club - the utter disrespect shown by his management to the total Club begs a very hard line response - either towards him if his management cant get a deal on the table that truly compensates the CLub fairly OR from any CLub that wants him.

Pay up or GTFO play out your career n VFL if youw ant to sook- no one is bigger than the Club it is time that Wright and everyone else at Carlton put these underperforming sooky lalas back in their box.

 

[Gointocarlton]

Buku is a great pickup

Is or will be?

 

[Gointocarlton]

This Charlie noise and carry on has got right up my nose. I know it shouldn’t. But it’s how he would have affected others that grates me.
When he signed his current long term and lucrative contract it would have meant some players took smaller contracts and others got no contracts at all and had their AFL careers ended. I feel for the people who sacrificed to keep him, worked to get his body right, lost their footy livelihoods.
He’s well within his rights to negotiate the best deal for himself but to turn around now and want out… strikes me as a level of selfishness that makes me pretty grumpy.
If his management cannot sufficiently compensate the club and yes, it should be overs because he has affected more than just himself with this decision, then GW is well within his rights to say that he’s found a club to send him to… the 2s.
I, for one, wouldn’t bat an eyelid.
Rant over.
I need a snickers

Agree, nuffs enuff.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Expect him to rotate with kemp back and forward for a bit of unpredictability

May even both play forward if we trade Charlie, pair them with Harry

We need to play a second ruck. I see HOK and Young as competing for the same spot, until HOK takes over from Pitto as first ruck.

If we are going to go in with Weiters and undersized tall defenders in Haynes, Khamis and Kemp, Young probably needs a bench spot to be 2nd ruck, genuine tall defender or forward competitor. Unless of course Dean defies history and can nail down a key position as an 18 year old.

 

[Numero 31]

Supporters who get frustrated with McGovern are going to have an interesting time watching Buku

Doubt he will be on McGovern's salary mind you.

 

[Angak]

I would say buku is better suited as a forward than a backman. His best work comes when he has a clean run and can jump at the ball. There are games where he marks everything, and his contested marking makes him a real threat. He’s also a handy second ruck option because of his leap, and he’s a reliable finisher around goal.

Down back though, he can be a liability. Ground balls expose him because he struggles to collect cleanly and make the right decision under pressure, and mistakes in that area usually lead to goals. Interestingly, some of his best games in defence have come against Curnow, but overall the consistency hasn’t been there.

With Naughton and Darcy already in the forward line he became an extra tall, which made it hard to carry him. At 190 cm you’d think he’d cover the ground better, but the aerobic base and ability to apply pressure aren’t in his game yet. He’s not slow, but he doesn’t cover ground well enough, and in a setup with multiple talls that lack of mobility makes the balance difficult. In a team with only one key forward he’d be a great second option, but with three talls it doesn’t work.

With a bit more natural development and used correctly, I think this would be an excellent pickup.

 

[Matty411]

Dom Akuei?

Ah knew there was - forgot Dom. Did he play a senior game for us in the end?

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Steady on... Dusty was a speed and endurance freak long before he built himself into a brick shithouse and started resting forward.

He was up and about for Richmond in the clearances from day dot, and a goal a game mid from game 12 onwards. Humphrey is tough, and throws everything into his efforts on goal, but he is not Dusty.

There's some blokes in the top 15 of the draft who fit the bill better, and I'd rather picks for Curnow to make that happen instead of turning him into one player.

Who is suggesting we would ONLY get Humphrey in a Charlie trade?

 

[Blue__Balls]

Who is suggesting we would ONLY get Humphrey in a Charlie trade?

Probably Gold Coast...

Would be an interesting negotiation.

If they were fobbing us Flanders then we'd undoubtedly be demanding a lot more. But if the player on the table is literally the perfect players from their list for our needs, then I could see us being a bit less hardline. We'd still want more than just Humphrey, but the "extra" might be late picks, or Rosas, or a favourable pick swap - rather than another high value asset.

 

[Accidental genius]

Buku couldn't get a run in the doggies senior side so we take him

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Probably Gold Coast...

Would be an interesting negotiation.

If they were fobbing us Flanders then we'd undoubtedly be demanding a lot more. But if the player on the table is literally the perfect players from their list for our needs, then I could see us being a bit less hardline. We'd still want more than just Humphrey, but the "extra" might be late picks, or Rosas, or a favourable pick swap - rather than another high value asset.

Bullshit, Humphrey only just broke into their best 22 this season after being in and out of the side. Charlie is a two time coleman medalist and will be their franchise player in terms of merchandise etc. Humphrey and a first round pick would be the minimum I'd expect.

 

[carlton_99]

Buku couldn't get a run in the doggies senior side so we take him

Has played 31 AFL games over the last two seasons for the Dogs.

 

[skadoosh]

Quick one - is Buku a 3rd tall or a CHF?
I'd assume he'd be competing for a spot against Moir and Kemp in the forward line.

 

[Numero 31]

Happy to keep McGovern on a lower contract, he never provided value for money previously, now he hopefully will.

 

[Big Delut]

Happy to keep McGovern on a lower contract, he never provided value for money previously, now he hopefully will.

Considering the big pay cut he took 2 years ago to drop down to $400-500k, I'm not sure how much lower he can go.

 

[Gingerbread man]

Buku is a great pickup

Why?

 

[katmanblue]

Cogs. Finally.

 

[Electric Blue]

 

[Sam The Doc]

Buku couldn't get a run in the doggies senior side so we take him

Well his coach is fairly different........

 

[T2B_]

This Charlie noise and carry on has got right up my nose. I know it shouldn’t. But it’s how he would have affected others that grates me.
When he signed his current long term and lucrative contract it would have meant some players took smaller contracts and others got no contracts at all and had their AFL careers ended. I feel for the people who sacrificed to keep him, worked to get his body right, lost their footy livelihoods.
He’s well within his rights to negotiate the best deal for himself but to turn around now and want out… strikes me as a level of selfishness that makes me pretty grumpy.
If his management cannot sufficiently compensate the club and yes, it should be overs because he has affected more than just himself with this decision, then GW is well within his rights to say that he’s found a club to send him to… the 2s.
I, for one, wouldn’t bat an eyelid.
Rant over.
I need a snickers

 

[Numero 31]

Considering the big pay cut he took 2 years ago to drop down to $400-500k, I'm not sure how much lower he can go.

Sorry I misunderstood. He has been on that for a couple if seasons now. Got it. My point was McGovern was initially on a big contract and he didn't provide value for money.