Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXIX

[BlueTongue]

I'm losing more and more interest in the AFL every year, and to be honest things like father/son are aspects that I do enjoy and that keep me interested. Daicos boys at Collingwood is great, great players, and I find it interesting. Sure our sworn enemy, but it is super cool to have that legacy. Think that is a unique rule that we have in our game that help with that legacy/heritage and I just don't understand why the AFL want to make it harder for these things to happen.

I know there is the argument around fairness/draft manipulation etc. but its not like the father son rule is not there for every club in the competition to access and use. Every Victorian club plus Brisbane (Fitzroy +academy) and Sydney (South Melbourne +academy) has the same advantage at this point, and then clubs like GWS and Gold Coast have strong academy rules that more than compensate. If anything Adelaide, Port, Freo, and West Coast are at the least disadvantage here but surely that can be worked through? (even still those four clubs were established in the late 80'/90's and would have some father son eligibility these days - Andrew Walker made his debut in 2004).

Because the AFL is becoming more and more, and faster, a business based on US sports models.
There is no room for sentiment (although they cleverly spin it that way to keep us all locked in) and it more about the dollars they can generate. The media, particularly SEN, is also locked in on this and sells it for the AFL.

I used to think Dwayne Russell was unbiased and fair, and let anyone have their say, but in recent months he is selling everything the AFL is putting down and disagreeing with callers who call this stuff out.
(Just today playing down the momentum shifting 'non-free' for Elliot's front on contact).

 

[Gethelred]

At some point, we need to sit down and make a list of the variety of decisions the modern AFL has made which, while seemingly not done with any malice or deliberately, have absolutely ****ed us over.

Here's some to get us started:

• the second we decide to go for a full rebuild, they remove runners from the game.
• when we start selecting for traits other than endurance, they bring in interchange caps.
• when we begin building a development setup around Luke Power
  Luke Power

  Age

  45

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  79kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  23.0

  5star

  K

  13.4

  5star

  HB

  9.6

  5star

  M

  3.9

  4star

  T

  3.9

  5star

  CL

  1.9

  4star

  No current season stats available

  D

  16.6

  4star

  K

  10.2

  4star

  HB

  6.4

  4star

  M

  1.4

  2star

  T

  2.0

  4star

  , they call off the VFL due to Covid, leaving those players without footy for 12 months.
• when we say we don't want to rely on priority picks, the AFL suggest we should ask.
• when we ask, the AFL slap it down hard after Gerard Whately whines about it.
• they want to give GC handouts but we were worse in the year it happened, so they manufacture state level picks and wait a year before gifting GC a package that allows them to select Rowell and Anderson.
• we play ENGIE stadium terribly, and since 2020 have played up there 4 times, down here only when we've had a doubleup.
• when we have a prospective top 5 draft pick in Cody Walker, they're making it harder to obtain high level FS picks after Geelong, Collingwood, WB and Brisbane have won nine flags over the last 15 years with FS players prominent.

 

[BlueTongue]

You are 100% right. It is part of the reason I am finding myself less and less interested.

I said half-heartedly earlier in the year about following a VFL team (although they are starting to get as bad as the AFL) but I think i will start going to more VFL games because the 'McDonalds' formula AFL is starting to wear me down and become not enjoyable.

And the fact our team sucks lol.

 

[norway blue]

Because the AFL is becoming more and more, and faster, a business based on US sports models.
There is no room for sentiment (although they cleverly spin it that way to keep us all locked in) and it more about the dollars they can generate. The media, particularly SEN, is also locked in on this and sells it for the AFL.

I used to think Dwayne Russell was unbiased and fair, and let anyone have their say, but in recent months he is selling everything the AFL is putting down and disagreeing with callers who call this stuff out.
(Just today playing down the momentum shifting 'non-free' for Elliot's front on contact).

And Gambling. FMD.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

If its Humphrey B. Flaubert we should stock up on Navy Blue balaclavas.

Might be able to persuade Ron Hitler Barrasi as a midfield line coach?

 

[RPCB]

At some point, we need to sit down and make a list of the variety of decisions the modern AFL has made which, while seemingly not done with any malice or deliberately, absolutely ****ed us over.

Here's some to get us started:

• the second we decide to go for a full rebuild, they remove runners from the game.
• when we start selecting for traits other than endurance, they bring in interchange caps.
• when we begin building a development setup around Luke Power, they call off the VFL due to Covid, leaving those players without footy for 12 months.
• when we say we don't want to rely on priority picks, the AFL suggest we should ask.
• when we ask, the AFL slap it down hard after Gerard Whately whines about it.
• they want to give GC handouts but we were worse in the year it happened, so they manufacture state level picks and wait a year before gifting GC a package that allows them to select Rowell and Anderson.
• we play ENGIE stadium terribly, and since 2020 have played up there 4 times, down here only when we've had a doubleup.
• when we have a prospective top 5 draft pick in Cody Walker, they're making it harder to obtain high level FS picks after Geelong, Collingwood, WB and Brisbane have won nine flags over the last 15 years with FS players prominent.

No compensation for Jarrad Waite is a favourite.

 

[charred_fate]

Key words - start with 4flags

Gulden the only one on their list that youd be hard pressed to demand more from.

I rate Miers massively.

Same

 

[manang magoos]

You are 100% right. It is part of the reason I am finding myself less and less interested.

Yep used to watch most games during week until last 2-3 were only watch 1-2 and one involves the mighty baggers
Prefer to go and watch a game of local country footy
You know the ones that the AFL say they care about good old grass roots footy fm even their country round is all played in big cities only game they want to call country is Geelong
GAGF AFL

 

[Adsky]

No compensation for Jarrad Waite is a favourite.

At some point, we need to sit down and make a list of the variety of decisions the modern AFL has made which, while seemingly not done with any malice or deliberately, absolutely ****ed us over.

Here's some to get us started:

• the second we decide to go for a full rebuild, they remove runners from the game.
• when we start selecting for traits other than endurance, they bring in interchange caps.
• when we begin building a development setup around Luke Power, they call off the VFL due to Covid, leaving those players without footy for 12 months.
• when we say we don't want to rely on priority picks, the AFL suggest we should ask.
• when we ask, the AFL slap it down hard after Gerard Whately whines about it.
• they want to give GC handouts but we were worse in the year it happened, so they manufacture state level picks and wait a year before gifting GC a package that allows them to select Rowell and Anderson.
• we play ENGIE stadium terribly, and since 2020 have played up there 4 times, down here only when we've had a doubleup.
• when we have a prospective top 5 draft pick in Cody Walker, they're making it harder to obtain high level FS picks after Geelong, Collingwood, WB and Brisbane have won nine flags over the last 15 years with FS players prominent.

It started long before that. Matthew Lloyd could have been father son but the AFL (Ian Collins) changed the rules that year too which prevented us from having access to him. Been going on for 30 years. Meanwhile, other clubs continue to profit from the rule. It's a joke

 

[WalshYouLegend]

Josh Honey is coming back?

No, some honey to attract the

 

[Sonny Jim]

Handy if we can keep EH
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Who is Blight?

 

[The Bighouse]

Who is Blight?

Jacob. Delisted from Richmond..

 

[Thrawn]

Who is Blight?

 

[Gointocarlton]

We got HOF.
That was the absolutely the correct call, and a win/win/win trade.

Yeah fair enough.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

At some point, we need to sit down and make a list of the variety of decisions the modern AFL has made which, while seemingly not done with any malice or deliberately, absolutely ****ed us over.

Here's some to get us started:

• the second we decide to go for a full rebuild, they remove runners from the game.
• when we start selecting for traits other than endurance, they bring in interchange caps.
• when we begin building a development setup around Luke Power, they call off the VFL due to Covid, leaving those players without footy for 12 months.
• when we say we don't want to rely on priority picks, the AFL suggest we should ask.
• when we ask, the AFL slap it down hard after Gerard Whately whines about it.
• they want to give GC handouts but we were worse in the year it happened, so they manufacture state level picks and wait a year before gifting GC a package that allows them to select Rowell and Anderson.
• we play ENGIE stadium terribly, and since 2020 have played up there 4 times, down here only when we've had a doubleup.
• when we have a prospective top 5 draft pick in Cody Walker, they're making it harder to obtain high level FS picks after Geelong, Collingwood, WB and Brisbane have won nine flags over the last 15 years with FS players prominent.

How did you miss pushing the priority picks to the end of the first round!?

In 2007 we would have got Gibbs + Selwood...

 

[Matty411]

No, some honey to attract the

Is Charlie the honey in this scenario?

 

[DangerousD]

Is his nickname Count?

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If he has a career half as good as that bloke, we will win 5 flags

 

[DangerousD]

Buku couldn't get a run in the doggies senior side so we take him

Frankie got delisted by 2 clubs and is playing decent footy for us

 

[Hands On]

can he talk

AFL screwing us again.

He who screws last screws the hardest. No over till the fat Lady sings. Have faith.

 

[Accidental genius]

Frankie got delisted by 2 clubs and is playing decent footy for us

Only after the head knock

 

[Kruezing]

Only after the head knock

All the more reason to bring May to the club

 

[djw1952]

Bear?
Grizzly Adams?
...Has a beard?!
WE'RE GETTING RILEY THILTHORPE!?!

Well done Sturt, and well deserved......Marty Mattner destined to coach in the AFL one day perhaps?!!

 

[Aphrodite]

Does everyone realise we have a Carlton Academy Next Gen Father son/daughter thread!!!

Official Club Stuff - Carlton Academy - Next Gen & Father/Son/Daughter Discussion II

Good result for us and Cody.. We'll pay a premium, but he projects to be a top tier talent.. Moving forward though.. this may make it easier for a Northern Academy gun player to get to us (or another Melbourne based club) in the future, if the Northern clubs have a number of Academy players...

www.bigfooty.com

Have just moved 68 posts from this thread to the above thread

 

[swuzzlebubble]

All the more reason to bring May to the club

We don't want to risk undoing it

 

[Matty411]

Not been discussed yet.

Do we put in a call to Bobby Hill?

Not in the May or JUH class. Highly talented. Area of need. Youngish.