IIRC Naicos polled last year in a game against Demons with 15 touches where he was subbed out during the 3rd quarter. He also got 2 votes in a loss v Sydney with 25 touches, no goals and 9 x clangers. In 2023 JHF had 13 touches v Geelong with 7 x clangers and got 3 votes. The whole award has become a bit of a farce.
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Brownlow 2025 Brownlow Medal Discussion
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Waiting for the year N Daicos gets 68 votes and loses out to someone on 69 votes.
Ok, I am going to do this. I can't believe this and I feel dirty but here we go.
I think it is wrong to blame the umpires. They have asked the AFL to allow them to see stats, obviously because they are busy doing their job and therefore may not notice who was really the best on ground. A simple way to confirm their thoughts or give them a chance to reassess. The AFL has said no.
It's the AFL we should be angry at. I imagine the umpires sometimes see a few fantastic moments and that stays in their minds and can influence their decisions.
All the other MVP awards in the afl, whether it be players or coaches or whatever, have access to stats. It doesn't compromise those awards and it won't compromise the Brownlow. Just let the umpires view the stats.
I think it is wrong to blame the umpires. They have asked the AFL to allow them to see stats, obviously because they are busy doing their job and therefore may not notice who was really the best on ground. A simple way to confirm their thoughts or give them a chance to reassess. The AFL has said no.
It's the AFL we should be angry at. I imagine the umpires sometimes see a few fantastic moments and that stays in their minds and can influence their decisions.
All the other MVP awards in the afl, whether it be players or coaches or whatever, have access to stats. It doesn't compromise those awards and it won't compromise the Brownlow. Just let the umpires view the stats.
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Seems like a fair take, Umpires have an enough trouble focusing on officiating the game and adjusting to rule changes made by the AFL every year. AFL 100% should get all the blame
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From the AFL website:
"The most surprising votes from Brownlow night
We look at the games where the umps and coaches differed in their votes
By Dejan Kalinic
Sep 22, 2025, 11:00
The biggest surprise of the night, possibly in Brownlow history, was Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera getting just two votes from the umpires in his stunning performance against Melbourne in round 20, when he single-handedly won the game as the Saints pulled off one of the biggest comebacks in VFL/AFL history. But Dees midfielder Jack Viney got the three votes from the umpires, with Wanganeen-Milera getting just two. Wanganeen-Milera, unsurprisingly, got 10 votes from the coaches in that game, while Viney got five.
But there were other games when the umpires and coaches were even more unaligned.
Overall, there were 13 instances of players getting three votes from the umpires but none from the coaches, and 21 occasions where players picked up a perfect 10 from the coaches but got no love from the umpires.
Players who got three Brownlow votes but no coaches' votes
Round 1: Chad Warner v Brisbane
Round 1: Jack Viney v Greater Western Sydney
Round 4: Matt Rowell v Adelaide
Round 5: Dayne Zorko v Western Bulldogs
Round 6: Reilly O'Brien v Greater Western Sydney
Round 7: Matt Rowell v Sydney
Round 9: Matt Rowell v Western Bulldogs
Round 9: Cam Rayner v North Melbourne
Round 12: Tom Green v Richmond
Round 14: Patrick Cripps v West Coast
Round 15: Dayne Zorko v Geelong
Round 22: Mark Blicavs v Essendon
Round 24: Patrick Cripps v Essendon
Players who got 10 coaches' votes but no Brownlow votes
Round 1: Toby Greene v Melbourne
Round 1: Jarrod Witts v West Coast
Round 2: Tristan Xerri v Melbourne
Round 4: Riley Thilthorpe v Gold Coast
Round 5: Tom Atkins v Adelaide
Round 6: Shaun Mannagh v Hawthorn
Round 9: Tom Liberatore v Western Bulldogs
Round 9: Jesse Hogan v Geelong
Round 9: Tristan Xerri v Brisbane
Round 10: Noah Anderson v Hawthorn
Round 10: Shai Bolton v Greater Western Sydney
Round 14: Jarman Impey v Adelaide
Round 15: Darcy Cameron v St Kilda
Round 16: Dan Curtin v Richmond
Round 16: Scott Pendlebury v West Coast
Round 17: Brodie Grundy v Fremantle
Round 18: Sam Switkowski v Hawthorn
Round 22: Aliir Aliir v Fremantle
Round 23: Zac Bailey v Fremantle
Round 23: Darcy Cameron v Adelaide
Round 24: Tristan Xerri v Adelaide
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/fixture?Competition=3&Season=84&Round=1301
Either the coaches or the umpires have got it wrong.!!! As mentioned by posters above, the AFL have to fix this ludicrous situation somehow.
"The most surprising votes from Brownlow night
We look at the games where the umps and coaches differed in their votes
By Dejan Kalinic
Sep 22, 2025, 11:00
The biggest surprise of the night, possibly in Brownlow history, was Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera getting just two votes from the umpires in his stunning performance against Melbourne in round 20, when he single-handedly won the game as the Saints pulled off one of the biggest comebacks in VFL/AFL history. But Dees midfielder Jack Viney got the three votes from the umpires, with Wanganeen-Milera getting just two. Wanganeen-Milera, unsurprisingly, got 10 votes from the coaches in that game, while Viney got five.
But there were other games when the umpires and coaches were even more unaligned.
Overall, there were 13 instances of players getting three votes from the umpires but none from the coaches, and 21 occasions where players picked up a perfect 10 from the coaches but got no love from the umpires.
Players who got three Brownlow votes but no coaches' votes
Round 1: Chad Warner v Brisbane
Round 1: Jack Viney v Greater Western Sydney
Round 4: Matt Rowell v Adelaide
Round 5: Dayne Zorko v Western Bulldogs
Round 6: Reilly O'Brien v Greater Western Sydney
Round 7: Matt Rowell v Sydney
Round 9: Matt Rowell v Western Bulldogs
Round 9: Cam Rayner v North Melbourne
Round 12: Tom Green v Richmond
Round 14: Patrick Cripps v West Coast
Round 15: Dayne Zorko v Geelong
Round 22: Mark Blicavs v Essendon
Round 24: Patrick Cripps v Essendon
Players who got 10 coaches' votes but no Brownlow votes
Round 1: Toby Greene v Melbourne
Round 1: Jarrod Witts v West Coast
Round 2: Tristan Xerri v Melbourne
Round 4: Riley Thilthorpe v Gold Coast
Round 5: Tom Atkins v Adelaide
Round 6: Shaun Mannagh v Hawthorn
Round 9: Tom Liberatore v Western Bulldogs
Round 9: Jesse Hogan v Geelong
Round 9: Tristan Xerri v Brisbane
Round 10: Noah Anderson v Hawthorn
Round 10: Shai Bolton v Greater Western Sydney
Round 14: Jarman Impey v Adelaide
Round 15: Darcy Cameron v St Kilda
Round 16: Dan Curtin v Richmond
Round 16: Scott Pendlebury v West Coast
Round 17: Brodie Grundy v Fremantle
Round 18: Sam Switkowski v Hawthorn
Round 22: Aliir Aliir v Fremantle
Round 23: Zac Bailey v Fremantle
Round 23: Darcy Cameron v Adelaide
Round 24: Tristan Xerri v Adelaide
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/fixture?Competition=3&Season=84&Round=1301
Either the coaches or the umpires have got it wrong.!!! As mentioned by posters above, the AFL have to fix this ludicrous situation somehow.
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The last paragraph above was mine of course! 
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yeah, Josh was best on ground that game against Melbourne
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sorry but how is he "woke"?
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Every bookie and betting agency in Australia will be soaking up the sun in Tahiti by now.
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To be fair, with the Melbourne game they clearly got him mixed up with his brother lol
Which I can only assume has happened last night
They had to have been getting Rowell and Anderson mixed up
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It’s such an intense combination of jealousy and tall poppy syndrome.
Just woke up and saw the result, perfect example of why I don’t watch it any more
A shit show from start to end with zero credibility!
Any guy who continuously comes second or third ( when they should have won at least 2 by now ) is clearly the best in the game
A shit show from start to end with zero credibility!
Any guy who continuously comes second or third ( when they should have won at least 2 by now ) is clearly the best in the game
Yeah, 9 votes in games where he accumulated a massive 20, 17 and 16 possessions are testament to how deserved he was. All while other players had absolute blinders missed out within the same game.
Pretty clear the AFL want Queensland to have as many wins as possible, to “grow the game”.
Rowell is a good player, awesome actually, but he went even the best play on his team, let alone the league.
Leigh Matthew’s, pendles an bont have never won one. Says plenty.
Swan and bucks missed out on multiple occasions.
Daicos should be a 2-3 time winner. Last 2 are an absolute rort.
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It’s pretty interesting looking at the last 10 or so winners. Contested inside mids dominate, to a laughable extent. flipping Jack Viney poached 3 votes of NAS, who played the best game a Saint has played in 10+ years.
Umps clearly have some kind of bias to those who get first hands to the footy. By nature of the way they’re trying to officiate the game? Hard to comprehend the extent to which the polling is at odds with what happens on the field - see N. Anderson polling fewer votes than Jake Bowey at ~R.10.
Umps clearly have some kind of bias to those who get first hands to the footy. By nature of the way they’re trying to officiate the game? Hard to comprehend the extent to which the polling is at odds with what happens on the field - see N. Anderson polling fewer votes than Jake Bowey at ~R.10.
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Especially after last night. There’d be more ****wits celebrating Nick not winning than Rowell actually winning. Sad bunch of insecure w***ers
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Genuinely none GAF about the actual winner
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I've never gone to the main board & after reading what people on here say, I have no intention of ever going there.
What about AA selection and the Captain appointment. Then there's the goal and Mark of the year. Remember when Daniher jumped over a Grass Beetle and won
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The umpires definitely got Rowell & Noble mixed up in all 3 of those games. Reminds me of the JHF & Bergman mix up last year.
Especially when they can’t view stats and probably just remember a redhead at every stoppage and every kick out
Especially when they can’t view stats and probably just remember a redhead at every stoppage and every kick out
The AFL is an out of control machine. Just look at the Sports Betting adds$$$ ending with messages of beware. Then you have the rubbish last night where they glorified McGovern's son giving the bird, yet fine players for doing the same. It's a complete circus so lets hope the new boss can fix up some of these clown acts, starting with the umpiring and rules.
