List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[bzparkes]

So let’s draft hbf’ers with midfield potential?

Bontempelli was an outside midfielder who also played HBF. He wasn't a HBF'er and neither is Duursma.

 

[Peptide Pig]

Duursma could be anything. Bont. Buddy.

It's more of a risk not to take him.

Duursma could be anything. Cale Morton, Jordan Gysberts, Jarrod Brander, Zane Duursma.

It’s less of a risk to address our most immediate need being pure mids.

A flanker/utility like Duursma who may or may not end up as a mid can wait, especially if someone will pay a decent price to move up for him.

But hey, this is a weak draft so even the ‘safe’ option in Sharp is probably more likely to be Will Phillips than the Matt Rowell that some suggest.

 

[bzparkes]

Duursma could be anything. Cale Morton, Jordan Gysberts, Jarrod Brander, Zane Duursma.

It’s less of a risk to address our most immediate need being pure mids.

A flanker/utility like Duursma who may or may not end up as a mid can wait, especially if someone will pay a decent price to move up for him.

But hey, this is a weak draft so even the ‘safe’ option in Sharp is probably more likely to be Will Phillips than the Matt Rowell that some suggest.

Well that's the issue, isn't it?

People are saying to take Sharp, because Morton could be a dud but Sharp could end up being Jackson Trengove also.

 

[beagles]

Duursma and CDT are the best elite talent in the draft and we should take best available.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

**** premierships, everyone just wants to play with Harley.

 

[Godfather32]

BB mate, I’d understand your concern if we didn’t have the (presumed) double bite of the cherry with the 1-2 punch.
If we take Duursma and CDT then perhaps we deserve to wear the dunce hat for another season, not because CDT is a bad pick, but he doesn’t fit our need, especially when paired with Duursma.
This is why I think we should be taking Sharp. He doesn’t have to be the second best player available. We can diversify our strategy.

BOND 007 I’m available for part time draft consultancy if you want. Cheers

Wasn't old mate 007 one of the guys that got fired at the end of 2024, don't think he posted after that and hasn't been online under that account since May

 

[BSD]

Yep. One person compared them to the Morton's and now people are freaking out about it.

Didn't one of the Mortons play in a premiership with Sydney ?

 

[WCErevival]

Didn't one of the Mortons play in a premiership with Sydney ?

Yep. Mitch Morton. Didn't realise he was a father son with us.

Forgot Cale played with us too.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Didn't one of the Mortons play in a premiership with Sydney ?

Kicked 3 goals in a tight match too

 

[Elite Pete]

Posters here downplaying his history before yet another concussion piss me off too. "He's never actually been concussed! Or maybe had one minor one once upon a time! HE'S FINE!"

Way too desperate for someone, anyone to nominate us.

I don’t think anyone is downplaying it. Most would’ve thought it was a concern. It’s just what’s been reportered by WAs main man Rhino. (Through the script written by his manager)

 

[thebutterflyeffect]

Well that's the issue, isn't it?

People are saying to take Sharp, because Morton could be a dud but Sharp could end up being Jackson Trengove also.

I've found this really bizarre as well. The general consensus on this board is that there's a huge chance that Duursma and in particular CDT are high risk and potentially busts while Sharp is a sure thing and will only become better in an AFL system.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

The trade period is going to be fascinating this year.

Blues will 100% need another decent F1 to get Walker. Walker was part of Tigers NGA and they will be bidding with pick 1 or 2. Blues have Dean this year and 2 decent FA compo picks about to drop in. Big question is will they need to trade Curnow to make it all happen?

Flanders looks a done deal to St Blunders for what will be pick 8.

Suns will likely have 7, 8, 15, 18 and own R2 which more than covers Uwland, Patterson and the other 2 academy prospects. Along with their F1, they are best placed to get Curnow and have points for their academy picks (may need to trade out others like Davies, Rosa and Fiorini compo)

Merrett wants out so how can Bombers save face? 10+ F1 needs more but the Hawks might need to include Husthwaite or something. Bombers can then tempt Butters out of Port. Butters is a RFA next year but if he goes in FA, I suspect the compo will be diminished by Swann making R1 less compromised. Could 5 and 6 even the door this year. Butters or Cumming plus Schubert?

Well know that Bombers want the Duursma set. What would need to go back to Drug Rats along with 1 to get 5 and 6? What needs to go back with 2 to get 5 and 6 if Bombers want CDT?

Will JUH even have an offer this year? Is his off field that bad that he is lost to the AFL?

Petracca and Oliver leaving Melbourne. Pretracca likely to get an average R1 but Oliver on such high $$ might mean an average pick with Dees still paying some.

Most importantly, who in West Coast will be managing the trades? Surely not Clarke Kent. We find out next week about any assistance. We will hear so many rumours and guesses about our draft hand. What I expect to see is Duursma called out at pick 1 on draft night. Only question will be is which club calls it out.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Duursma could be anything. Cale Morton, Jordan Gysberts, Jarrod Brander, Zane Duursma.

It’s less of a risk to address our most immediate need being pure mids.

A flanker/utility like Duursma who may or may not end up as a mid can wait, especially if someone will pay a decent price to move up for him.

But hey, this is a weak draft so even the ‘safe’ option in Sharp is probably more likely to be Will Phillips than the Matt Rowell that some suggest.

Bont. Buddy. Goddard. I don't think anyone else has that high a ceiling (that's obvious from watching u18s). I've never pretended he's not a risk. I've never pretended he couldn't be anything either way.

BTW. I've been in the Sharp/Duursma camp from the start. I was the first one to jump on both of these bandwagons. I was "let's take Sharp at 1" when all the media had him around 15. I also think I was the OG guy who said Duursma might be Cale Morton. But when everyone was saying they didn't want him, I was saying "take him". When everyone was saying he's a flanker, I was saying take him as a ceiling midfielder. Everyone was fapping over Josh Lindsay. I was on the Sharp/Duursma combo. You can go check if you want.

This is June 7. Before Sharp dominated WA in the champs:

List Mgmt. - Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

With respect to Monocle and ATG who watch and follow the u18 much closer than me, but I can't believe Sharp and Freddy have dropped off that badly. I watched the SA v Allies game and although Sharp didn't dominate he was very good. He played forward quite a bit to try and demonstrate he had...

www.bigfooty.com

This is June 2. The Cale Morton comment:

List Mgmt. - Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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This is June 27. I'm officially on the Sharp/Duursma bandwagon. At this point, it would have been lucky to find another poster who wanted Duursma.

List Mgmt. - Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

I think he has a low ceiling too, is he going to improve much one he hits AFL environment? I personally don't think so. That's a big call though. Like I said, WCE needs mids and Sharp is the clear best midfielder. If we ignored him off the back of the form he's putting up currently, and he...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[ArdentEagle]

I can't believe there is even a debate.

Duursma looks to be clearly the best available talent in the open pool.
Pick 1 - WD and move on.


this was posted by Yoda_ in the drafts forum

Bit of ranking update, from some of the best minds in the draft space. Our own eDPS, Haggas, Smythe, ESPN, Cal Twomey, Craft of the Draft and the new Reading the Play which is a breath of fresh air and somewhat against the norm.

Pick Average;
the ranking total divided by the amount of selections
eg. Duursma was selected 8 times, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 4 = 13
13 draft points divided by amount of sections (8 rankings used)
13 / 8 =1.625 1.625

High Pick
self explanatory really. The highest they were taken. Gives an idea of how widely viewed some players were.

Low Pick
Opposite to the 'high pick', good to see how low some rated these players.

The players listed below are sorted on this metric. All players were viewed in two rankings across the 8. Some of these selections are skewed by being out of date (ie. Craft of the Draft still had Sullivan Robey at 28, the last update from them was 3 weeks ago)

Also gives a reasonable enough view of where the groups sit

Ranking	Name	Pick Average	High Pick	Low Pick
1	Willem Duursma	1.625	1	4
2	Zeke Uwland	2.25	2	3
3	Daniel Annable	4	2	5
4	Dyson Sharp	5	1	9
5	Cooper Duff - Tytler	5.125	3	7
6	Dylan Patterson	5.5	4	10
7	Sam Cumming	8.25	6	15
8	Oliver Greaves	9.75	7	16
9	Harry Dean	10.125	6	15
10	Sullivan Robey	10.75	4	28
11	Xavier Taylor	11	7	14
12	Sam Grjl	11.5	5	15
13	Josh Lindsay	12.5	10	17
14	Aiden Schubert	12.875	9	18
15	Mitch Marsh	14.25	11	18
16	Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves	14.625	9	25
17	Jacob Farrow	15.5	12	17
18	Lachy Dovaston	17.375	15	22
19	Jeevan Phillipou	18.5	12	24
20	Adam Sweid	22	20	32
21	Max King	22.5	20	25
22	Cameron Nairm	23.375	24	47
23	Harley Barker	23.5	18	27
24	Archie Ludowyke	23.75	21	31
25	Oskar Taylor	24.25	16	34
26	Lachlan Carmichael	24.4	20	29
27	Beau Addinsal	26.25	24	32
28	Louie Emmet	27	23	32
29	Matt Leray	28.5	22	34
30	Zac McCarthy	30.166	24	36
31	Fred Rodriguez	30.5	23	39
32	Sam Swaddling	32	19	48
33	Blake Oudshorn-Benier	32.166	23	43
34	Jack Dalton	32.857	14	41
35	Hussein El-Achkar	33	28	42
36	Kye Fincher	34.166	27	41
37	Max Kondogiannis	35.333	30	39
38	Toby Whan	36	31	49
39	Talor Byrne	36.166	32	40
40	Thomas Burton	36.25	29	40
41	Riley Onley	36.5	30	48
42	Jack Ison	38	25	46
43	Jesse Mellor	38.166	34	42
44	Koby Koulson	38.333	35	42
45	Hugo Mikunda	38.5	32	45
46	Thomas McGuane	40.5	37	44
47	Liam Hetherton	42.25	38	48
48	Noah Chamberlain	47	45	49
49	Cody Curtain	47.5	46	49

 

[Smotie2]

Where are these players and why aren’t they banging down the door now that Harley has signed up again. Another dose of Simpson bullsh•t he came up with to try and save his job.

Whether or not Simpson was telling the truth is immaterial. I think he was full of shit personally.
But if you look at teams that have struggled in the past they generally aren't teams that players what to go to.
I mean why wouldn't mvee want to move to us and win 3 games next year....how fun is that?

Even Brisbane after the 2001 to 2003 flags dropped and struggled for a long time and nobody wanted to stay or go there.

Until we start winning consistently we won't be a destination club like we're were in the early part of Simpsons coaching tenure.

We have to ride the youth to experience and then players will come imo

 

[TOA.]

I dont get the debate over Duursma on here. He's a perfectly okay pick. Is the OTHER bloke we take with the Allen compo that I'm worried about.

 

[TOA.]

McVee is a better get then Starcevich will be for us….

I dont think anyone at the club would doubt that. McVee is a much better long term option but (a) he prefers Freo over us (lets be honest, who wouldnt) and (b) he will cost a first rounder or close to it.

Hopefully Starcevich is effectively just salart cap space cost. Let's be honest our list is so poor we should be barely be hitting the min player payment as it is, so salary cap space/cost is irrelevant for us right now.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Sure but in the scenario that we go to all of those players and they don't want to come here, what do people expect us to do with the pick that must be traded?

I guess that simple answer would be to use it in one of our other trades if we have to because we can't find another player.

It's not like it's worthless or anything. Could always just trade it for future picks in next years draft at a worst case.


Ryan + Priority pick for 7?

I dunno.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Wasn't old mate 007 one of the guys that got fired at the end of 2024, don't think he posted after that and hasn't been online under that account since May

If he worked in recruitment or drafting for the club in any capacity and was simultaneously posting on BigFooty, he bloody well should have been fired too. Having said that, I highly doubt he was.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

I can't believe there is even a debate.

Duursma looks to be clearly the best available talent in the open pool.
Pick 1 - WD and move on.


this was posted by Yoda_ in the drafts forum

Bit of ranking update, from some of the best minds in the draft space. Our own eDPS, Haggas, Smythe, ESPN, Cal Twomey, Craft of the Draft and the new Reading the Play which is a breath of fresh air and somewhat against the norm.

Pick Average;
the ranking total divided by the amount of selections
eg. Duursma was selected 8 times, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 4 = 13
13 draft points divided by amount of sections (8 rankings used)
13 / 8 =1.625 1.625

High Pick
self explanatory really. The highest they were taken. Gives an idea of how widely viewed some players were.

Low Pick
Opposite to the 'high pick', good to see how low some rated these players.

The players listed below are sorted on this metric. All players were viewed in two rankings across the 8. Some of these selections are skewed by being out of date (ie. Craft of the Draft still had Sullivan Robey at 28, the last update from them was 3 weeks ago)

Also gives a reasonable enough view of where the groups sit

Ranking	Name	Pick Average	High Pick	Low Pick
1	Willem Duursma	1.625	1	4
2	Zeke Uwland	2.25	2	3
3	Daniel Annable	4	2	5
4	Dyson Sharp	5	1	9
5	Cooper Duff - Tytler	5.125	3	7
6	Dylan Patterson	5.5	4	10
7	Sam Cumming	8.25	6	15
8	Oliver Greaves	9.75	7	16
9	Harry Dean	10.125	6	15
10	Sullivan Robey	10.75	4	28
11	Xavier Taylor	11	7	14
12	Sam Grjl	11.5	5	15
13	Josh Lindsay	12.5	10	17
14	Aiden Schubert	12.875	9	18
15	Mitch Marsh	14.25	11	18
16	Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves	14.625	9	25
17	Jacob Farrow	15.5	12	17
18	Lachy Dovaston	17.375	15	22
19	Jeevan Phillipou	18.5	12	24
20	Adam Sweid	22	20	32
21	Max King	22.5	20	25
22	Cameron Nairm	23.375	24	47
23	Harley Barker	23.5	18	27
24	Archie Ludowyke	23.75	21	31
25	Oskar Taylor	24.25	16	34
26	Lachlan Carmichael	24.4	20	29
27	Beau Addinsal	26.25	24	32
28	Louie Emmet	27	23	32
29	Matt Leray	28.5	22	34
30	Zac McCarthy	30.166	24	36
31	Fred Rodriguez	30.5	23	39
32	Sam Swaddling	32	19	48
33	Blake Oudshorn-Benier	32.166	23	43
34	Jack Dalton	32.857	14	41
35	Hussein El-Achkar	33	28	42
36	Kye Fincher	34.166	27	41
37	Max Kondogiannis	35.333	30	39
38	Toby Whan	36	31	49
39	Talor Byrne	36.166	32	40
40	Thomas Burton	36.25	29	40
41	Riley Onley	36.5	30	48
42	Jack Ison	38	25	46
43	Jesse Mellor	38.166	34	42
44	Koby Koulson	38.333	35	42
45	Hugo Mikunda	38.5	32	45
46	Thomas McGuane	40.5	37	44
47	Liam Hetherton	42.25	38	48
48	Noah Chamberlain	47	45	49
49	Cody Curtain	47.5	46	49

That top 20 is pretty close to my top 20. I think a lot of draft pundits have Greeves blown out to 15. I still have him top 10. Robey is the bolter. He goes top 5 (ignoring NGA/FS). I think Fred is late teens. I think he'll go early to mid 20s.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

There is no mccluggage in this draft.

Annable, maybe.

 

[wceeaglesfan]

what two mids fit our needs the best in this draft?
I would go with duursma at 1 and try find a split that gives us cummings + a future first

future Midfield rotation

• Harley reid (x factor mid)
• Hewett (x factor mid)
• Bo Allen (big body / defensive mid)
• Cumming (Balanced mid)
• Duursma (Transition mid)

Possible 25 and 26 drafts
25
Duursma, cumming, dovaston Barker, C Banfield and NGA players

26
Akri Butler (eagles first round pick, fwd/mid), Kale Matthews (pick 2 split, key def), Benji van rooyen (WCE 2nd round pick, ruck) , Garrison Kenh (WCE NGA, half back)

 

[Obeanie1]

I can't believe there is even a debate.

Duursma looks to be clearly the best available talent in the open pool.
Pick 1 - WD and move on.


this was posted by Yoda_ in the drafts forum

Bit of ranking update, from some of the best minds in the draft space. Our own eDPS, Haggas, Smythe, ESPN, Cal Twomey, Craft of the Draft and the new Reading the Play which is a breath of fresh air and somewhat against the norm.

Pick Average;
the ranking total divided by the amount of selections
eg. Duursma was selected 8 times, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 4 = 13
13 draft points divided by amount of sections (8 rankings used)
13 / 8 =1.625 1.625

High Pick
self explanatory really. The highest they were taken. Gives an idea of how widely viewed some players were.

Low Pick
Opposite to the 'high pick', good to see how low some rated these players.

The players listed below are sorted on this metric. All players were viewed in two rankings across the 8. Some of these selections are skewed by being out of date (ie. Craft of the Draft still had Sullivan Robey at 28, the last update from them was 3 weeks ago)

Also gives a reasonable enough view of where the groups sit

Ranking	Name	Pick Average	High Pick	Low Pick
1	Willem Duursma	1.625	1	4
2	Zeke Uwland	2.25	2	3
3	Daniel Annable	4	2	5
4	Dyson Sharp	5	1	9
5	Cooper Duff - Tytler	5.125	3	7
6	Dylan Patterson	5.5	4	10
7	Sam Cumming	8.25	6	15
8	Oliver Greaves	9.75	7	16
9	Harry Dean	10.125	6	15
10	Sullivan Robey	10.75	4	28
11	Xavier Taylor	11	7	14
12	Sam Grjl	11.5	5	15
13	Josh Lindsay	12.5	10	17
14	Aiden Schubert	12.875	9	18
15	Mitch Marsh	14.25	11	18
16	Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves	14.625	9	25
17	Jacob Farrow	15.5	12	17
18	Lachy Dovaston	17.375	15	22
19	Jeevan Phillipou	18.5	12	24
20	Adam Sweid	22	20	32
21	Max King	22.5	20	25
22	Cameron Nairm	23.375	24	47
23	Harley Barker	23.5	18	27
24	Archie Ludowyke	23.75	21	31
25	Oskar Taylor	24.25	16	34
26	Lachlan Carmichael	24.4	20	29
27	Beau Addinsal	26.25	24	32
28	Louie Emmet	27	23	32
29	Matt Leray	28.5	22	34
30	Zac McCarthy	30.166	24	36
31	Fred Rodriguez	30.5	23	39
32	Sam Swaddling	32	19	48
33	Blake Oudshorn-Benier	32.166	23	43
34	Jack Dalton	32.857	14	41
35	Hussein El-Achkar	33	28	42
36	Kye Fincher	34.166	27	41
37	Max Kondogiannis	35.333	30	39
38	Toby Whan	36	31	49
39	Talor Byrne	36.166	32	40
40	Thomas Burton	36.25	29	40
41	Riley Onley	36.5	30	48
42	Jack Ison	38	25	46
43	Jesse Mellor	38.166	34	42
44	Koby Koulson	38.333	35	42
45	Hugo Mikunda	38.5	32	45
46	Thomas McGuane	40.5	37	44
47	Liam Hetherton	42.25	38	48
48	Noah Chamberlain	47	45	49
49	Cody Curtain	47.5	46	49

Nice survey and summary.

Very close to what will happen bar the left field riser and faller IMO.

Quite close to what a couple of learned posters on the other draft thread have said too.

 

[Lach72]

I dont get the debate over Duursma on here. He's a perfectly okay pick. Is the OTHER bloke we take with the Allen compo that I'm worried about.

I’m wondering whether you guys will use pick two to bid on every highly rated academy kid.

Would be quite nice if those ****ers had to pay full tote on all of them.

 

[mattyc75]

Duursma and CDT are the best elite talent in the draft and we should take best available.

What is CDT elite at exactly?